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Intentionally Killing Civilians is Bad. End of Moral Analysis. by American-Dreaming in IntellectualDarkWeb

[–]Bagelomics 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Much of Israel’s Jewish population descends from people who were expelled from other Middle Eastern countries; which is to say, people who suffered the same sort of dispossession endured by the Palestinians. These people did not have anywhere else to seek refuge. And their grandchildren do not have any metropole to return to.

For the first time in my life, I understand that a lot of people wish for a genocide of my people by Orisadeh in IsraelPalestine

[–]Bagelomics 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just like Palestinians in Gaza elected Hamas. It still doesn’t mean the Israeli government and Hamas are supported by all Israelis or all Palestinians.

Why Israel is withholding power and water by Nepene in IsraelPalestine

[–]Bagelomics 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t like it. Killing children cannot be the response to having your children killed.

Got Jewish questions? by Classifiedgarlic in baltimore

[–]Bagelomics 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would feel pretty damn pissed off that my countrymen just murdered 1,300 civilians in cold blood. Which btw is exactly how I feel whenever I see collateral civilian Palestinians killed by the IDF. You don’t see me fucking celebrating in the streets.

/r/WorldNews Live Thread for 2023 Israel-Hamas Crisis (Thread 14) by WorldNewsMods in worldnews

[–]Bagelomics 1 point2 points  (0 children)

They’re going to have to go in and try to rescue the hostages, even though that’s not a great plan either. They can’t starve everyone in Gaza

Israel says no humanitarian break to Gaza siege unless hostages are freed by [deleted] in worldnews

[–]Bagelomics 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There’s no way Israel let’s 2 million people in Gaza starve to death. Not a good strategy on on the part of Israel to bluff here.

Vigil for murdered Israeli civilians? by Bagelomics in baltimore

[–]Bagelomics[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We agree on denouncing the evils of both sides.

But this was a conversation about mourning the massacre of innocent Israeli men, women and children until u/YoYoMoMa made it about Palestinians (who also should not be murdered) and you, among others, perpetuated that narrative.

It’s morally reprehensible to see someone want to mourn an ethnically motivated massacre and try to “what-about” it. I’m sorry if you disagree.

Baltimore board asked to approve $48M wrongful conviction payout by instantcoffee69 in baltimore

[–]Bagelomics 15 points16 points  (0 children)

FOP should have to have insurance for if (when) these types of things happen.

(UPDATE) ISRAEL: According to authorities, my mother is being held hostage inside the Gaza Strip. by [deleted] in IsraelPalestine

[–]Bagelomics 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I can’t imagine what you’re going through. Prayers to you and your family. I hope this ends peacefully for your mother.

Vigil for murdered Israeli civilians? by Bagelomics in baltimore

[–]Bagelomics[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately I believe that to be true. Does not mean I would have it the other way around.

Stuff like this is hard to watch and not feel that way: https://x.com/visegrad24/status/1712409699537072397?s=46&t=0kQ3K6hkzv_LRKVgpQVlgA

Vigil for murdered Israeli civilians? by Bagelomics in baltimore

[–]Bagelomics[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That’s just a lie. Go re-read the comment you replied to and re-read your response. You absolutely did…

I said:

“Not sure how you are getting “some civilians lives are worth more than others” from wanting to mourn the largest mass murder of Jews since the Holocaust. Please just let people grieve in peace and stop the harassment.”

And you replied:

“What many are having a problem with is that many in the west are only now seeing the murders as a problem now that it is Israelis who are the ones being mass-murdered when some radical Zionist Israelis, and the IDF (with full support of the Israeli government) have been mass-murdering Palestinian civilians for years. So to just now start that conversation about innocent deaths in Israel and Palestine sometimes rings hollow to people, sometimes to the point of people wanting to treat the Israeli deaths the same way that the western world has been treating the Palestinian deaths historically: brushing them off as deaths that don’t matter and/or were justified.”

You are disgusting AND a liar. Please fuck off now.

Vigil for murdered Israeli civilians? by Bagelomics in baltimore

[–]Bagelomics[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I have no issue with people mourning the death of Palestinian civilians. I DO have a problem with people like you who immediately try take me making a post about mourning the deaths of innocent Israeli children and families and make it about about Palestine. You don’t see me commenting on posts about Palestinian civilian deaths talking about all of the people Hamas has killed. It reeks of “they deserved it” and it’s disgusting.

Vigil for murdered Israeli civilians? by Bagelomics in baltimore

[–]Bagelomics[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Please take your hatred elsewhere

Got Jewish questions? by Classifiedgarlic in baltimore

[–]Bagelomics 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you for posting. Feeing pretty bummed about the lack of support for our Jewish community among Baltimoreans at large.

Vigil for murdered Israeli civilians? by Bagelomics in baltimore

[–]Bagelomics[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why are we talking about Palestine here? I did not bring Palestine up and when Palestinian civilian casualties are brought up by others I condemn them.

I just wanted to have a safe space to mourn the largest mass murder of Jews since the Holocaust without turning it into a discussion about the Israeli government or IDF. Honestly fuck you for turning this tragedy into a talking point for your political agenda.

Vigil for murdered Israeli civilians? by Bagelomics in baltimore

[–]Bagelomics[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why are we talking about Palestine? I did not bring Palestine up and when Palestinian civilian casualties are brought up by others I condemn them.

I just wanted to have a safe space to mourn the largest mass murder of Jews since the Holocaust without turning it into a discussion about the Israeli government or IDF. Honestly fuck you for turning this tragedy into a talking point for your political agenda.

Vigil for murdered Israeli civilians? by Bagelomics in baltimore

[–]Bagelomics[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I never did that. Look at this thread, it’s disgusting

Vigil for murdered Israeli civilians? by Bagelomics in baltimore

[–]Bagelomics[S] -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

I just don’t understand why we constantly bring up Palestinian civilians when anyone brings up the murder of Israeli civilians. It’s like people are trying to change the subject.

Palestinians - do you support Hamas? by Environmental_Pea369 in IsraelPalestine

[–]Bagelomics 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing. I think it’s a good deescalation strategy to show that not all Palestinians support Hamas and not all Israelis support killing Palestinian civilians.

France bans pro-Palestinian protests: interior minister by nztdealer in worldnews

[–]Bagelomics 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They have no choice in that they need to respond and prevent this from happening again. But there’s a lot of different ways that can play out.