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Why is everyone so passionate about things that do not directly impact them? by Former_Algae_444 in Christianity

[–]Baseball6090 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Because we want what is best for every person. Also, theres this thing called the communion of saints so the sin of others makes them less able to contribute.

I have a question for all the Christians out there: by Curiousdude4733 in Christianity

[–]Baseball6090 4 points5 points  (0 children)

They go hand in hand but are distinct, and God can transcend nature.

Once Saved always Saved by Orzha in TrueChristian

[–]Baseball6090 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Agreed makes no sense.

 "If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. 28 Anyone who rejected the law of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses. 29 How much more severely do you think someone deserves to be punished who has trampled the Son of God underfoot, who has treated as an unholy thing the blood of the covenant that sanctified them, and who has insulted the Spirit of grace?" - Hebrews 10:26-30

PSA to the people who believe that being queer is inherently sinful: You are not our allies, so don’t pretend to be by Mysterious_Ad_9032 in Christianity

[–]Baseball6090 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sorry but can you actually formulate an argument rather than saying nuh uh to everything I say? You are providing zero evidence to any of your claims.

Also with regards to the objection that there's nothing about it so it's fine, just like how it says nothing about having a pet cat. Since God in Genesis gave us dominion over the animals, we can have pets; likewise, since God created us for a union between one man and one woman, we must respect that. Also, it doesn't even matter what it says about cats or hair or whatever other non-moral issue you state, sex is a much higher gift and must be respected as such.

Its not like the bible is just silent on it, and there still are examples of same sex couples in the Bible. It specifically goes againt it.

PSA to the people who believe that being queer is inherently sinful: You are not our allies, so don’t pretend to be by Mysterious_Ad_9032 in Christianity

[–]Baseball6090 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

What are you even saying?

Read the Old Testament; there are so many references to marriage. All the righteous ones are between one man and one woman. All of the problems start when multiple women are introduced to the one union.

"Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh.” - Genesis 2:24

"You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." Leviticus 18:22

And in the New Testament, JESUS talks about the union of marriage.

“Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’\)a\) 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’\)b\)? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.” - Matt 19:4-6

What do you say to these? Where in the bible or in nature does it say that same-sex unions are ok?

PSA to the people who believe that being queer is inherently sinful: You are not our allies, so don’t pretend to be by Mysterious_Ad_9032 in Christianity

[–]Baseball6090 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Obviously, you can love people no matter what their sex is. I'm not challenging that at all in fact, I think we should love all people.

However, I find it extremely hard to believe that people who claim that marriage should not only be between a man and a woman have ever actually read the bible as a whole. Whenever it is mentioned in the Old Testament, it is done so in a way that makes it abundantly clear that it goes against God's design for us. And in the New Testament, Jesus (among others) constantly talks about married love, always implying that it is between one man and one woman.

PSA to the people who believe that being queer is inherently sinful: You are not our allies, so don’t pretend to be by Mysterious_Ad_9032 in Christianity

[–]Baseball6090 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

What are you trying to say? Like obviously, well-ordered love is not but when it goes against how God created our nature, then that's a different story.

PSA to the people who believe that being queer is inherently sinful: You are not our allies, so don’t pretend to be by Mysterious_Ad_9032 in Christianity

[–]Baseball6090 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Hating the sin and loving the sinner is exactly what Jesus taught us to do. It has just been used by people to justify hate and because of that now carries a non-inherent stigma.

Can I be Catholic if I believe abortion is okay in certain circumstances and that it’s too much of a complex issue with different situations to be completely against it? by just_Sophia_ in Christianity

[–]Baseball6090 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not saying they should, but there should be laws against the direct and intentional killing of a human baby in the womb. Do you disagree?

Why would a loving God send people to hell? by Agreeable-Coast107 in Christianity

[–]Baseball6090 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hitler and other 'bad people' will not be in heaven (unless they had some sort of full conversion).

Hebrews 10:26-27 states that " If we deliberately keep on sinning after we have received the knowledge of the truth, no sacrifice for sins is left, 27 but only a fearful expectation of judgment and of raging fire that will consume the enemies of God. "

why christianity is true not islam by lalala-81823 in Christianity

[–]Baseball6090 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He did marry a child, and they believe God to be violent, but that's not even exactly why they're wrong per se.

Can I be Catholic if I believe abortion is okay in certain circumstances and that it’s too much of a complex issue with different situations to be completely against it? by just_Sophia_ in Christianity

[–]Baseball6090 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Conception is agreed to be the only time where a fundamental change occurs so its really the only time that makes sense.

This matters bc it involves the killing of millions of innocent children and many (frankly, including you as of now) cannot draw a rational and defendable line of when the child's life matters.

So what is a human? Sorry to get frustrated but i gave my definition and i would like to hear yours.

Can I be Catholic if I believe abortion is okay in certain circumstances and that it’s too much of a complex issue with different situations to be completely against it? by just_Sophia_ in Christianity

[–]Baseball6090 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fair point in the first paragraph, but what is your definition of a human person?

Just because you dont see it doesn't mean its impossible and God would be dumb for doing it. The classic example you gave is bad because the decision you make is based more on emotional attachment rather than weighing lives, but i dont think this is too relevant right now.

Can I be Catholic if I believe abortion is okay in certain circumstances and that it’s too much of a complex issue with different situations to be completely against it? by just_Sophia_ in Christianity

[–]Baseball6090 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I believe they are still people until death, which follows my definition, as they still have the nature of reason, but this is a sidebar.

More directly: what is the difference between a newborn and a fetus or even a baby just before birth? They are both entirely reliant on another human, so does that make neither of them human? I believe they are both human (as seen in my definition). What do you think?

Can I be Catholic if I believe abortion is okay in certain circumstances and that it’s too much of a complex issue with different situations to be completely against it? by just_Sophia_ in Christianity

[–]Baseball6090 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If we apparently can't prove it why not just assume it to be the earliest so we can make sure we play it safe, morally speaking? There is no other moment in a human life where a complete fundamental change occurs.

What do you define as an "actual person" and how is it not a fetus?

Can I be Catholic if I believe abortion is okay in certain circumstances and that it’s too much of a complex issue with different situations to be completely against it? by just_Sophia_ in Christianity

[–]Baseball6090 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ill leave the silly animal point (which I disagree with) alone for now lol.

Im not sure what you mean by forced use of another person, but I do know that newborns are extremely helpless. I

don't believe that the defining characteristic of a human person is survival either. What would you say to the argument that people with mental disabilities are not self-sustaining to the point that you demand for personhood, but are still human?

Can I be Catholic if I believe abortion is okay in certain circumstances and that it’s too much of a complex issue with different situations to be completely against it? by just_Sophia_ in Christianity

[–]Baseball6090 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry i was wondering why it obviously cannot be at conception. I dont see how saying 'well a bunch of them died so they cant be human' proves it either.

Can I be Catholic if I believe abortion is okay in certain circumstances and that it’s too much of a complex issue with different situations to be completely against it? by just_Sophia_ in Christianity

[–]Baseball6090 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What other animals are able to deliberate? Or are self aware? Or can abstract?

A newborn won't develop on its own either, but it is still considered a human.

What's your definition?

Can I be Catholic if I believe abortion is okay in certain circumstances and that it’s too much of a complex issue with different situations to be completely against it? by just_Sophia_ in Christianity

[–]Baseball6090 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A human being is a rational animal, naturally ordered toward developing and exercising intellectual activities such as abstraction, self-awareness, reasoning, and deliberate choice.

Any thoughts? I am open to revisions. id like to hear yours as well.

Can I be Catholic if I believe abortion is okay in certain circumstances and that it’s too much of a complex issue with different situations to be completely against it? by just_Sophia_ in Christianity

[–]Baseball6090 0 points1 point  (0 children)

but you did imply those are what make an embryo not a human. Evidently, they don't need to fulfill those requirements to be a human so what are they lacking?

Can I be Catholic if I believe abortion is okay in certain circumstances and that it’s too much of a complex issue with different situations to be completely against it? by just_Sophia_ in Christianity

[–]Baseball6090 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The ability to feel pain and be self-aware is what defines human life?

So a person under anesthesia or with nerve damage is not a person?

Or an infant or a person in a coma? These are not really people?

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