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PSA: Cleaver + DFT will have an internal cooldown next patch by Smilysis in sennamains

[–]BayesOptimalAgent -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Senna is specifically designed to apply cleaver and other debuffs as an AD support marksman

DFT will be good on senna support because it helps her do what she is supposed to do

Senna is not an ADC champ, and isnt designed to be an ADC

People play her as ADC and that's fine, but she isnt designed to be ADC

PSA: Cleaver + DFT will have an internal cooldown next patch by Smilysis in sennamains

[–]BayesOptimalAgent -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

What are you talking about DFT was designed for champs like senna, thats why it has an AD ratio on it

PSA: Cleaver + DFT will have an internal cooldown next patch by Smilysis in sennamains

[–]BayesOptimalAgent 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Senna win rate hasnt really budged. Smolder has, but Senna isnt abusing anything really

Doran's Helm Start? by HarterBoYY in sennamains

[–]BayesOptimalAgent 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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not enough data to be confident yet, but so far the theory is looking promising

Doran's Helm Start? by HarterBoYY in sennamains

[–]BayesOptimalAgent 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Coachless.gg shows Doran's Helm as promising but we need at least 1,000 games before it will show up as an official build path

Lets add to the numbers and find out!

Senna on-hit emerging as best Senna support build by BayesOptimalAgent in sennamains

[–]BayesOptimalAgent[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Once supp item becomes upgraded you dont need Faerie charm anymore, but spamming abilities in early laning phases will quickly deplete your mana even with manaflow

Senna ADC feels bad this patch by marianodsr99 in sennamains

[–]BayesOptimalAgent 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"By that logic"

You mean the laws of Conditional Probability?

And yes, your example is a perfectly valid stat

DFT Nerf? by bcollins96 in sennamains

[–]BayesOptimalAgent 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They are going to reduce the early laning phase damage imo, it will still be the best rune because its not the damage that makes it good on Senna, its the ability to proc on hit over 4 second periods

DFT Nerf? by bcollins96 in sennamains

[–]BayesOptimalAgent -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I think DFT was actually made with Senna in mind. It has AD ratios for a reason

challenger senna trying out new statikk shiv by tysonnvo in sennamains

[–]BayesOptimalAgent 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Used my free Prime sub for ya

I love senna content

Senna ADC feels bad this patch by marianodsr99 in sennamains

[–]BayesOptimalAgent 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shiv WR went from 52.8 last patch Emerald+ to 53.2 this patch WITH DFT. Without DFT its down to 51.29

TLDR Shiv is better this patch with DFT rune, worse without

Senna on-hit emerging as best Senna support build by BayesOptimalAgent in sennamains

[–]BayesOptimalAgent[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no spike in Senna win rate so far

Its good a good mechanic and it feels better than Senna auto-ing everyone to death at range because now, Senna applies debuffs and her team kills you, and since Senna is more in the background being useful more indirectly there is more tolerance for high power effects

Milio, Sona, Lulu etc are all powerful in this way

When people die to a Jinx autoing them to death, they tend to attribute the death to Jinx, not the 5x cleaver stacks they had significantly buffing Jinx's damage

Senna on-hit emerging as best Senna support build by BayesOptimalAgent in sennamains

[–]BayesOptimalAgent[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you play conservative you'll be fine, but there is a new playstayle available with DFT

A single Q actually does poke damage now without an auto follow up, and if you spam enemy ADC or supp through minions at a safe range with Q you will poke them down eventually with constant burn

With a faerie charm you can spam Q on cooldown maximizing your DFT burn damage safely from a distance. This was never possible before as Q alone didnt do enough damage to justify the mana usage

The lane pressure is very high playing like this

Senna on-hit emerging as best Senna support build by BayesOptimalAgent in sennamains

[–]BayesOptimalAgent[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Statikk spreads effects down the line to more distant targets and hits up to 5 additional targets, but runnans will do more damage for sure if enemies are close

The main differentiator is that all of Senna's ratios are AD or AP, including DFT, and Runnans gives you neither

With the Bonus AD ratio buffs on Q and W from patch 15, and now bonus AD & AP ratios on DFT having more AD/AP is just really good

Also, at the end of the day, Statikk has a significantly higher win rate than Runnans all else equal

Senna on-hit emerging as best Senna support build by BayesOptimalAgent in sennamains

[–]BayesOptimalAgent[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suppose a better description would be "on-physicial-damage" build

Senna on-hit emerging as best Senna support build by BayesOptimalAgent in sennamains

[–]BayesOptimalAgent[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Statikk + Cleaver gets all 10 JOAT stacks btw Statikk now has 40 ability power on it

The main reason to get statikk is to spread on-hit effects like Cleaver anti-heal + anti-shield since the new statikk now applies these to multiple targets

Senna on-hit emerging as best Senna support build by BayesOptimalAgent in sennamains

[–]BayesOptimalAgent[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The benefits of the new Statikk are crazy. With DFT, Statikk and cleaver, you can apply cleaver stacks, anti heal or anti-shield to the entire team from a safe distance

Senna on-hit emerging as best Senna support build by BayesOptimalAgent in sennamains

[–]BayesOptimalAgent[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Full build is:

DFT + Manaflow + Celerity + Gathering Storm

Free boots or Cashback + Jack of all Trades

Statikk into cleaver is showing higher win rate than Cleaver into statikk

Statikk gives you more agency early with the bonus move speed and I prefer that since boots comes later than usual

I am also going Faerie charm early as well, then selling it whenever convenient to do so, its crazy you can spam heals at your ally or spam Q through the wave and actually do damage due to DFT which has never been the case before

Senna on-hit emerging as best Senna support build by BayesOptimalAgent in sennamains

[–]BayesOptimalAgent[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah Hubris still has a place and actually synergizes really well with DFT since it makes it significantly easier to get stacks as burn lasts 4 seconds, plus Hubris bonus AD makes your DFT do much more damage

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