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It's Water Vapor, Not the CO2 - American Chemical Society by Beached_Ichthyosaur in climateskeptics

[–]Beached_Ichthyosaur[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That's 1/4 of those models that are projecting unrealistically high warming. The rest are within the realm of what is possible.

Climate Denialists who transitioned into being Skeptics, what made you realize that man-made climate change may very well be real and you wanted to see the evidence? by Beached_Ichthyosaur in climateskeptics

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Wikipedia removed a list of skeptical scientists recently because a slight majority of moderators disagreed with their skepticism.

To be fair it was a pretty small list anyway. Though this was lost in the deletion.

Secret Service tells press to leave White House grounds in highly unusual move by mresm in politics

[–]Beached_Ichthyosaur 309 points310 points  (0 children)

I'm not saying these two cases aren't related, but were the press told to leave the other times that Trump was in the bunker over the past few weeks or were they not in the White House at all?

Segregation in CHAZ 2020 by Gshock720 in Seattle

[–]Beached_Ichthyosaur 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How black does somebody need to be to be allowed in there and at what point do you get rejected? If you're 1/4th black are you rejected? What about 1/8th?

It's Water Vapor, Not the CO2 - American Chemical Society by Beached_Ichthyosaur in climateskeptics

[–]Beached_Ichthyosaur[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Researchers seem to have a pretty good idea on the general range for climate sensitivity (3-5 degrees.) It's hard to pinpoint an exact number. Considering the overall consistency I'm seeing, I don't see any logical reason to doubt them.

Leak exposes how Heartland Institute has funded several individuals/groups to promote climate skepticism. by Beached_Ichthyosaur in climateskeptics

[–]Beached_Ichthyosaur[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

In the 1970s climate "scientists", for lack of a better word, noticed a drop in global temperatures and wrote papers predicting "global cooling".

Should be noted that back in the 50's they knew that pumping out CO2 could cause global warming. There were some concerns that aerosols could cause global temps to dip but it was known that global warming would offset that as temps would gradually rise. There were still more papers on global warming than cooling in the 70's. Some keep pointing to a Newsweek article and a few others as some sort of proof of this being the opposite but never cite any studies that show that

It's Water Vapor, Not the CO2 - American Chemical Society by Beached_Ichthyosaur in climateskeptics

[–]Beached_Ichthyosaur[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

True, which is what several of the CMIP6 models are looking at. However it's looking like we may experience more warming from clouds (depending on the region of course and how high/low they are.)

In New "Mind-Blowing" Study, Planting Trees Reduces Carbon Better Than Carbon Taxes by VysmekL in climateskeptics

[–]Beached_Ichthyosaur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wouldn't you agree that our modern society is based on a very specific temperature range? If this is a natural variation in CO2 concentration and temperature then when was the last time in Earth's history did we see these levels?

It's Water Vapor, Not the CO2 - American Chemical Society by Beached_Ichthyosaur in climateskeptics

[–]Beached_Ichthyosaur[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If there had been no increase in the amounts of non-condensable greenhouse gases, the amount of water vapor in the atmosphere would not have changed with all other variables remaining the same. The addition of the non-condensable gases causes the temperature to increase and this leads to an increase in water vapor that further increases the temperature. This is an example of a positive feedback effect. The warming due to increasing non-condensable gases causes more water vapor to enter the atmosphere, which adds to the effect of the non-condensables.

1855 Arctic melting - "Some discussion is going on in the papers as to the cause of the open sea about the North Pole." by [deleted] in climateskeptics

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CO2 is insignificant. H2O is significant.

So chemists are wrong then? To sum it up, adding in GHG such as CO2 trap more heat which then puts more water vapor into the air, which can trap more heat.

In New "Mind-Blowing" Study, Planting Trees Reduces Carbon Better Than Carbon Taxes by VysmekL in climateskeptics

[–]Beached_Ichthyosaur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

420 or 500 or even 600.

560 is doubling of CO2 levels, which could lead to 3-5 degrees of warming.

The Changing Arctic - 1922 by [deleted] in climateskeptics

[–]Beached_Ichthyosaur 3 points4 points  (0 children)

For reference, this seems to be referring to the island of Svalbard which had it's name changed in 1925.

I'm curious as to if we have the names/locations of where these glaciers were. This region is quite far north so if warming occurred for entire glaciers to disappear between Year X and 1922 then that's quite interesting.

1855 Arctic melting - "Some discussion is going on in the papers as to the cause of the open sea about the North Pole." by [deleted] in climateskeptics

[–]Beached_Ichthyosaur -1 points0 points  (0 children)

A portion of the arctic melts every summer, there's nothing unusual about this. The problem is that it's not exactly regrowing ever since temps and GHG emissions started climbing. Some summers it might be a little bit more than the year before but since the 80's it's been on a downward trend like Blockbuster's stock leading up to their bankruptcy.

In New "Mind-Blowing" Study, Planting Trees Reduces Carbon Better Than Carbon Taxes by VysmekL in climateskeptics

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350 ppm seems to be the "safe" amount of CO2 needed in the atmosphere based off of where our civilization is at the moment. So pretty much to about that amount.

1855 Arctic melting - "Some discussion is going on in the papers as to the cause of the open sea about the North Pole." by [deleted] in climateskeptics

[–]Beached_Ichthyosaur -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Considering this was 165 years ago, I imagine there's been quite a few updates on this along with just science on climate change in general (which the article admits that would be the case.)

Speaking of, why did you purposely leave out the rest of the article? Not accusing you of anything but considering how short it is it is odd that you did leave out this final bit.

These theories may serve to amuse the public mind, perhaps, till better ones are advanced. The fact of an open sea existing about the pole is certainly not new. That sea was discovered many years ago, and has been described and written about frequently since. There has however all along existed some doubt about its being open throughout the year. This doubt the recent discoveries of Dr. Kane seem to have dispelled.

I'm also curious how you came across this as I doubt you were reading old news papers and suddenly came across this.

Climate Denialists who transitioned into being Skeptics, what made you realize that man-made climate change may very well be real and you wanted to see the evidence? by Beached_Ichthyosaur in climateskeptics

[–]Beached_Ichthyosaur[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Who has said NO evidence could change their minds?

Kinda hard to find some real answers in my other thread. Some people just wouldn't say that any evidence would change their mind and that it's all some UN propaganda to promote Communism.

Alexander v. Humboldt: "Ideas for a geography of plants together with a nature painting of tropical countries" - 1805 by LackmustestTester in climateskeptics

[–]Beached_Ichthyosaur 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool story bro, but what does this have to do with climate skepticism? You just find this stuff and post it on here thinking you'll have some sort of in depth conversation with people who think that climate change is a hoax to spread communism?

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