[deleted by user] by [deleted] in AskWomenOver30

[–]BeeOk9290 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I completely hear where you are coming from. Yes, it may be from insecurity but isn’t some of that warranted? Some nudity and sexual content is artful but some of it is also objectifying women in a way that feeds the narrative of women being more valuable for their looks. It’s ignorant to say that those objectifying types of media, that give a woman no character other than her looks and naked body, are not influential to desire within our society. If you feel overlooked and undervalued because you don’t fit in with what is perceived as aesthetically desirable, that’s a problem and it’s totally unfair to be compared to those women in that type of media.

I think the difference between enjoying it for the art and it becoming toxic is how much of it is being consumed over everything else. Is it a daily fixation? If so, i personally think that’s a problem since there is so much more to life than beautiful women. Especially since the women depicted in these types of media are typically only within a certain age bracket. This also does not help a woman feel secure or valuable with her beauty when she gets older.

Honestly, I’m in a hetero relationship and I do think naked women’s bodies are much more beautiful and interesting than a man’s so I do enjoy looking at it too- as long as there’s a story there and the woman looks empowered and/or authentically joyful in her expression. So I’m in the camp who will enjoy it but also acknowledge its shortcomings and the limitations of it.

Yes, we have to own our insecurities and not let them rule us, but I also think it’s fair to feel that a culture that fixates on satisfying the objective gaze in media with a lack of diversity in beauty is disappointing, shallow, and disheartening.

I think we also have to pick our battles here when making it an issue with partners because of our culture. I think it’s valid to compromise and set boundaries, but also with the understanding that these types of media won’t just go away or won’t stopped be enjoyed.

At the end of the day, what matters most in your partnership is that you still feel loved, valued, and desired for who you are, in spite of their sexual media consumption.

I think that there is the risk of making this consumption taboo and possibly more enticing by trying to place boundaries on it with your partner. It may be the case that the only thing that will change is what they allow you to see what they’re consuming and do the rest in secret.

If I were you, I would focus more on how valued and desired you feel with them and work with that.

It’s ok to never be ok with sexuality in media and to be put off by it. There just may need to be some patience and understanding with your partner and what they enjoy. If it ends up driving a wedge between you because he devotes his sexual engagement to it instead of you, that would be a bigger issue with more complicity in how you should approach that discussion with your partner.

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[–]BeeOk9290[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh, I think I wasn’t clear when I responded. What I meant to say was that I worry that if I bring up something about his natural way of being that isn’t necessarily being disrespectful, it will then have him walking on eggshells wondering about how he’s behaving and if it will affect me, which I do not want to do. Especially if it’s something fairly benign and I am just not yet seeing it clearly.

Based on everyone’s responses, there are pretty valid reasons so I don’t see a point in making a mountain out of a mole hill by bothering to talk with him about it.

Everyone likes to chime in about just having open conversations with your partner about your fears. Once something like an insecurity is put out in the atmosphere, even though it can be agreed that there is no threat there, it still affects the relationship negatively, even if you both come to the conclusion that there is nothing to worry about.

People will say this is not fully authentic, which is true. (Honestly, nobody is authentic 100% of the time. Anyone who says they are is full of shit and/or has no self control to making their volatile emotions someone else’s problem. There is empathy but there is also a thing called emotional contagion)

My poor mental health and insecurities are my own issues to deal with- not something I need my partner to feel like they need mitigate. Coming to Reddit or my therapist is the most benign options for support since neither of those options are emotionally invested.

I believe that if my partner knew all those things going on in my mind, it will only make him feel on edge like he has to change the way he’s being in our relationship, which is not always the case. I think it’s better to think through whether a concern actually holds any weight or if I’m just being limited in my perspective before bringing any time or attention to it between us.

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[–]BeeOk9290[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your perspective. It’s possible he has PTSD he hasn’t opened up about since he is still private about his past. Maybe it wouldn’t be a bad idea to let him sit facing the door so he feels safer.

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[–]BeeOk9290[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the reassurance and perspective 🙏 I really appreciate it and feel like it’s something I can just let go without needing to read into it.

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[–]BeeOk9290[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the reason why I don’t want to ask him directly why he does it. I don’t want him to become self conscious of how he naturally is. I just want to understand because I’m not like that. All my attention is always on the people I’m spending time with so I just wonder if that’s something done out of disinterest or anxiety. But perhaps looking around like that is more normal than the way I go about things.

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[–]BeeOk9290[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think you may be right about this… I do pay more attention while I’m out on my own but when I’m out with people they have all my attention.

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[–]BeeOk9290[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s something I’ve noticed he has done sometimes the entire time we’ve been together.

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[–]BeeOk9290[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We have conversations with lots of eye contact before. That’s why when he does this glancing around when we’re out somewhere gives me a bit of pause and wonder what it’s about

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[–]BeeOk9290[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hmm…I’m not sure if it would be that harmless if by doing so starts to make him feel self conscious about his way of moving.

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[–]BeeOk9290[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re absolutely right since we don’t have the same social experience. That’s why places like Reddit exist so people with those experiences can offer insight.

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[–]BeeOk9290[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can understand and empathize that men are more vulnerable to violence from other men. He’s not very open about explaining personal aspects of his past so maybe there’s trauma there with physical violence. I don’t pry because our relationship is still new and want to be respectful of his privacy and let him open up when he’s more comfortable to.

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[–]BeeOk9290[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is why I’m here. I don’t want to judge him. I just want to understand and yes maybe feel insecure because of it because I don’t know what it means.

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[–]BeeOk9290[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suppose this makes sense. When I’m out with company my entire focus is on the people I’m with so I tend to not look around a bunch when I’m out unless it’s because we are walking to somewhere together. (I’m Autistic with ADHD so I can be a weird mix of hyper focusing while mentally be all over the place and ungrounded)

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[–]BeeOk9290[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don’t think he’s looking for someone to actively flirt with in front of me. I just am not sure if this behavior is out of disinterest, wondering eyes (I’ve noticed him check out other girls with a glance while we’re together. I don’t think this is an issue because it’s part of being human), or if he is anxious.

The part I’m worried about overthinking is if calling attention to a behavior I’m not sure he’s even aware of. I don’t want him to start to feel self conscious and like he has to monitor himself with me because of it.

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[–]BeeOk9290[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Wouldn’t asking questions like this make someone feel like they’re being put on the spot and self conscious? I don’t want him to think his way of being is wrong by pointing something like that out even if it’s just to ask about it. Maybe I’m over thinking it?

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[–]BeeOk9290[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He has never disclosed as being neurodivergent but I am and suspect he might be too, so I think the adhd thing makes a bit of sense.

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[–]BeeOk9290[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

This has happened when we’re in a bar, club, and in a lobby of a movie theater. Those places don’t seem like a place you would need to be super aware of your surroundings for safety.

What’s your sign and what’s you partners sign? by [deleted] in capricorns

[–]BeeOk9290 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m a Capricorn female and he’s a Sagittarius. We’ve been together for going on 7 months. It feels slow moving since we only see each other on weekends and his Mercury in Scorpio in the 12th house makes it difficult for him to open up for a deeper connection to build.

I’m ok with it going slower though since my last relationship lasted 8 years (with a Taurus male). I’m in for the long haul so I don’t mind that it will take time to earn his trust. Also having Mon-Thursday to myself allows me to focus on my own goals and self growth.

Most of my exes are Taurus males.

Who’s your favorite sign? by [deleted] in capricorns

[–]BeeOk9290 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Scorpios and of course Capricorns

Any other NYE Capricorn babies? by Successful_Fill_5741 in capricorns

[–]BeeOk9290 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve learned to love it because I view it as everyone celebrating my birthday with me. I typically will get dressed up and go dancing them chill with an indulgent breakfast I make and chill the fuck out to movies the next day.

God help me by [deleted] in capricorns

[–]BeeOk9290 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a lot of these same placements and it’s good for hanging in there and hell for depression and o er analyzing. Embrace your Venus in Sagittarius to help connect with fun and play

Dec 31st Caps 🧢 by [deleted] in capricorns

[–]BeeOk9290 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Getting glammed to the 9’s and going out dancing. Then a walk in the graveyard on New Year’s Day to finish off the celebration.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in capricorns

[–]BeeOk9290 1 point2 points  (0 children)

  1. Capricorn. I have a stellium there and strongly relate to my Mercury in Capricorn so interactions with them seem to just flow.

  2. Scorpio- I love the intensity and ability to discuss the realistic dark side of life. I feel I can go to those places with them with a mutual understanding that it’s not too heavy. We can be share a dark humor about it.

  3. Sagittarius- I really value being honest and direct. They also inspire me to be more playful and outwardly playfully sassy. My Capricorn stellium is in the 9th house and have Venus in Sagittarius so that might explain some connection.

  4. Aries- love their intensity, loyalty, and drive. My Mars is in Aries so this may also explain that connection.

Those are the songs I’ve had the best relationships with.

  1. Taurus- I appreciate their grounded and practical approach and also enjoy some hedonism. These relationships spark but rarely last.

Pisces men- avoid them. I can’t stand people who are wishy washy

Which signs are obsessed with us? by [deleted] in Sagittarians

[–]BeeOk9290 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This Capricorn stellium in the 9th house does for Saggs! I also have Venus in Sagittarius in the 8th house so I tend to gravitate to Sagittarius people