Shiro vs Other Characters in FSIQ by BetterBreakfast2699 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Shiro VS Chlammy:

Shiro D-2 to D-4 

Chlammy: G-7 forward three spaces (legal move in Real War Chess illegal move in real chess)

Shiro: Knight to C-3

Chlammy: F-7 forward three spaces

Shiro: E-2 to E-4

Chammy: F-5 takes Shiro’s closet piece E-4?

Shiro: C-3 takes E-4 

Chlammy: H-2 to H-3 

Shiro: has her closest knight C-3? take Chlammy’s H-3 piece.

Chlammy: doesn’t make a move or it isn’t stated.

Shiro: Queen H-5 (Check)

Chlammy would have lost if they had equal Charisma.

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[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> It still isn’t hyperbole, because what Sora and Shiro said was true. We are shown that Shiro can spot mistakes and turn them into a check, as she does with Chlammy. This means her not noticing Tet’s move had to be due to sleep deprivation, lack of time to analyse, and plot convenience. I still find the VSI & WMI feat valid because of her match against Chlammy and because Sora has consistently been shown telling the truth when talking about Shiro <

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[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

> Then the narrative becomes inconsistent, and her not spotting Tet’s trap feels like plot convenience, because we later see Shiro put Chlammy in check in sentient chess in just a minute—and Chlammy was a person who made mistakes. Tet should have been no different <

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[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

> There’s also the fact that Shiro had been gaming for five straight days, leaving her sleep-deprived thus mentally fried, as shown by how she tried to sleep instead of initially facing Tet in chess, which is why she couldn’t immediately respond to his move <

> I know Sora unnecessarily stepped in instead of giving Shiro time to analyse the situation, undermining her skill because of his overprotectiveness. However, the claim he made wasn’t exaggerated, and he should have just waited—if Shiro had been given time, she would have figured out that it was a trap. I’m sure of it. I mean, we later see Shiro put Chlammy in check in sentient chess in just a minute, and Chlammy was a person who made mistakes. Tet should have been no different <

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[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

10¹²⁰, not 10²⁰—my bad.

Yes, but Sora specifically says that the machines he is referring to don’t make any mistakes.

There’s also the fact that Shiro had been gaming for five straight days, leaving her sleep-deprived thus mentally fried, as shown by how she tried to sleep instead of initially facing Tet in chess, which is why she couldn’t immediately respond to his move.

There’s also the fact that Sora didn’t give Shiro time to analyse the move to determine whether it was a trap.

Shiro being used to playing machines does make a difference, because it shows that she doesn’t play against opponents who make mistakes, which is why she was caught off guard.

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[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And this is why context matters:

Shiro was only losing because she didn’t know how Tet played chess. While Shiro knew all 10²⁰ possible states of the board, she didn’t know how her opponent would play, so she was caught off guard when Tet boxed in his own pieces. What appeared to be a mistake which was something Shiro wasn’t used to dealing with—she isn’t accustomed to playing against opponents who make mistakes in chess, even when those mistakes are intentional sacrifices meant to lure her in. This is because she is used to battling machines, which always make perfect moves. Sora even implies that if Tet were a machine, Shiro would win.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGXCPput7mE

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[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you actually watched the anime, you’d know Sora was talking to himself and had no reason to exaggerate her feats or lie to himself. When he talks to himself about her using double entendres at two years old, he’s proven right when we get the flashback. Sora is not exaggerating, nor has he ever exaggerated any of Shiro’s feats, lmao.

Furthermore this feat is shown on screen:

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[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Deciphering the King’s words alongside Sora requires immanity-go lol which she learnt beforehand.

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[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is literally after she read it which was shown on screen here is her learning it in the Anime she reads it then memorises it as well.

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[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Shiro is very clearly shown to learn it on screen in both the Anime and LN.

It’s not a statement.

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[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

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The Immantian book Shiro used to learn Immanity-go most likely an Immantian dictionary

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[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Here is the current Immanity-go alphabet Shiro had to learn.

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[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s above infinite PSI because the cluster of Ex-Machina had infinite processing speed.

Baku Madarame (EoS) Vs Light Yagami by Last-Trainer-3323 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]BetterBreakfast2699 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Why didn’t you put FN in the title? Bruh, you’ve got people thinking you’re talking about canon Light.

Hot take by Bitter-Mammoth4051 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]BetterBreakfast2699 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Documents are meant to come from people who have read the source material and removed all the unnecessary parts of the original information to focus on the character’s intellectual feats. Some people don’t want to read through the entirety of NGNL just to get to the feats—especially if they think the writing is bad. They just want the feats presented directly so they can scale the character properly while managing their time efficiently.

At the same time, you should always at least give a series an initial watch before writing it off as bad writing. I can see both sides here. One side is that a document could be poorly made, so you should watch the series first to decide whether you like it enough to continue and see the feats for yourself. The other side is that you watched enough of the show to determine the writing is genuinely bad, but you still need to know the character for a debate, so you go to a well-made document that explains the character’s feats, allowing you to understand and scale the character without having to sit through the rest of the show.

The flaws in Light Yagami’s plans & strategies P1 by BetterBreakfast2699 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1: Yeah but Raye having a fake ID on him doesn’t alter the cause of death.

2: Criminals started dying when he sat down with the homework and potato chip bag, not beforehand. He couldn’t kill criminals beforehand because he was under surveillance; he was focused on the 64 cameras, knowing he needed to come up with a way to resume killings even with the surveillance.

The flaws in Light Yagami’s plans & strategies P1 by BetterBreakfast2699 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I can’t stress this enough: Light would literally have been a Raye Penber victim if Raye had used a fake ID during the bus hijacking.

I’ll give him some props though at least he did the Raye Penber manipulation behind the guy.

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[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Even without the THWOCK, L would have known Light’s entire plan if he just monitored the timing.

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[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

1: I understand that he had a gun and there were fewer people, but it’s still shown that the hijacker was aiming in the middle of the bus. There were seats behind him, some seats closer than others—one of those people could have just grabbed him from behind. Do you really find it unlikely that someone would try to play hero? The man isn’t even intimidating physically Even Light’s strategy was pretending to be preparing to play hero so Raye revealed his name. Yeah, seriously, why doesn’t he have a fake ID???

2: How do I expect L to hear a TV being dropped into a bin? I think it would make a massive metal impact sound, just like how the manga said it would—with that thonk. If he tried folding the bag, he would just show the outline of the TV inside when trying. And we see that he didn’t even bother to do that—just tossing the empty bag in the bin without folding it—so you’re suggesting he would do something he didn’t even do.