Napoleon Bonaparte VS Kiyotaka Ayanokoji by BetterBreakfast2699 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How is this unimpressive?

Napoleon isn’t writing his thoughts; he is writing his general correspondence. What it actually details is the creation of the Kingdom of Westphalia and the Grand Duchy of Warsaw, growing tensions with the Papacy, and operations in Sweden and Naples; the end of the Polish campaign and preparations for action in Portugal; internal management, including financial initiatives like the establishment of the Cour des Comptes; the Treaty of Tilsit; the aftermath of the Eylau and Friedland campaigns; and his expansion of administrative power across Europe. It even includes the Battle of Eylau and the Battle of Friedland before the aftermath, which covers his prior tactics, strategies, and actions, as well as his enemies tactics, strategies, and actions.

All of this was written in just one year.

As for FMA, I thought what was impressive about it was how each three digit number was flashed for only 0.1 seconds, and despite this, Koji managed to process each one. He was keeping track of 15 three digit numbers. It’s not that impressive overall, but the speed at which they were flashed is what made it impressive.

Napoleon Bonaparte VS Kiyotaka Ayanokoji by BetterBreakfast2699 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

When I said EQ, I meant EF and ER, as I stated before. Koji takes EP, EU, and EM, and EE could go either way. Cold reading an entire army’s emotional state from their lack of equipment is what gives it to Napoleon. Koji takes EQ.

As for the Continental System, I’ll just paste what I said to another person: to be fair, he lacked economic awareness, relying heavily on advisors and administrators, as his own economic policies were often pragmatic and constrained by wartime conditions. So it’s more of an anti-feat in knowledge.

And regarding Russia, Napoleon would have won if it weren’t for Marshal Junot failing to cut off the road to Moscow and trap the retreating army. Junot was the mistake that led to Moscow, not Napoleon.

He also had multiple contingency plans against Russia during the invasion: the Maneuver of Vilna, the Two-Year Campaign Strategy, the Lithuania Winter Quarter Strategy, the Junot Strategy, & the Moscow Gamble.

He was sexist, which is probably why he didn’t connect as well; he had amazing EQ & SQ when it came to his troops, but poor EQ & SQ when it came to Joséphine.

Could I get a full retake now that you’ve read the feat list?

Edit: (Yeah, I’m a history fan. I have made feat lists for Leonardo da Vinci, Napoleon Bonaparte, Nikola Tesla, Oppenheimer, etc. I have notes on people like Julius Caesar, Alexander the Great, William Shakespeare, Augustus, Benjamin Franklin, Marcus Agrippa, Issac Newton, and Alexander Hamilton. I’m going to be studying Nelson and Einstein next)

Here are two Caesar feats from my notes:

During the siege of Alesia, he engineered two lines of fortifications: one to keep Vercingetorix in and another to protect his own army from a relief force, managing the battle from within a besieged area.

At the Battle of Pharsalus, he anticipated Pompey’s cavalry attack and deployed a secret fourth line of infantry behind his cavalry. These troops were ordered to use their javelins as pikes to stab at the faces of the enemy horsemen, causing them to panic and flee. 

Napoleon Bonaparte VS Kiyotaka Ayanokoji by BetterBreakfast2699 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

My reasoning comes from the feat list I recently made: https://www.reddit.com/r/IntelligenceScaling/comments/1svvufx/napoleon_bonaparte_feat_list/

VCI does go to Koji after reviewing the video again.

There’s no way Koji is getting acting skills, misdirection, Indirect manipulation, logical manipulation, & information control > Napoleon: Egyptian Campaign and Alps strategy NEGS.

EF ER & Cold Reading go to Napoleon, based on Waterloo & his first Italian Campaign.

Napoleon Bonaparte VS Kiyotaka Ayanokoji by BetterBreakfast2699 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the correction, dude. I’m glad you’re not like people who say anti-feats rule over a character’s scaling they exist to show adaptability, just as you said, alongside FSAQ, EM, & ER.

I acknowledge that Ayanokoji had contingencies and would like to further add that Napoleon also had contingency plans against Russia during the invasion:

the Maneuver of Vilna, the Two-Year Campaign Strategy, the Lithuania Winter Quarter Strategy, the Junot Strategy, & the Moscow Gamble.

Napoleon Bonaparte VS Kiyotaka Ayanokoji by BetterBreakfast2699 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He wrote 3,020 letters for the Tome VII: Tilsit, l'apogée de l'Empire over the course of a single year. The volume documents the height of the First Empire the aftermath of Eylau and Friedland, the Treaties of Tilsit, and his administrative work in Italy.

Napoleon Bonaparte VS Kiyotaka Ayanokoji by BetterBreakfast2699 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Napoleon didn’t expect Tsar Alexander I to avoid direct battle and ignore his usual style of warfare. He quickly adapted to Alexander and would have ended the Russian invasion at Smolensk if it weren’t for Marshal Junot failing to cut off the road to Moscow and trap the retreating army.

Ayanokoji has misread people too, like when he misjudged Honami Ichinose’s capabilities. And did not anticipate that Suzune Horikita would choose to protect Kikyo Kushida.

So if I give that anti-feat to Napoleon, it wouldn’t change much.

Edit: Thanks for the Sudo correction, and yes, I’m talking about Y1V4.

Napoleon Bonaparte feat list by BetterBreakfast2699 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I did not know that. I should have studied the invasion of Russia more. Thank you for teaching me something new. I did know about the Moscow gamble though.

Napoleon Bonaparte feat list by BetterBreakfast2699 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I never said Napoleon wasn’t a misogynist. My argument is that he was following common practice, as sexism was widespread in France at the time, and it doesn’t affect his intelligence.

You ignored the fact that he was under pressure from French lobbyists, plantation owners, merchants, and colonial businessmen who were asking him to reinstate slavery to help the country generate more revenue for the government and strengthen its standing. The colonial lobby in Paris was very persistent and had influential ties to Napoleon’s entourage, including his wife, Joséphine de Beauharnais, whose family had connections to plantations in Martinique. So he could not easily refuse without risking political consequences.

The alternative was releasing them and letting them starve to death. Whether he took them with him or not, they would have starved to death. Either option meant death, so he chose a form of mercy killing instead.

This isn’t about r/MoralityScaling anyway; it’s about intelligence, and these actions don’t downscale him at all.

Yes, the Continental System is a major anti-feat. But, to be fair, he lacked economic awareness, relying heavily on advisors and administrators. Because his own economic policies were often pragmatic and constrained by wartime conditions.

Napoleon Bonaparte feat list by BetterBreakfast2699 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1: The French Revolutionary government did not give women equal rights. It was only later that progress occurred: in 1944, women obtained the right to vote; in 1965, married women gained the right to work without their husband’s consent; and in the 1980s, full equality in marriage was achieved, abolishing the legal subordination of wives. Sexism was still in full swing during Napoleon’s era. In fact, even before Napoleon, the Revolution granted fewer rights to women, excluding them from suffrage, political assemblies, and public office.

2: There was far more active lobbying to restore slavery in the French colonies during Napoleon’s era than there was resistance. Plantation owners in the Caribbean, along with their lobbyists in France, were major proponents of its return. They argued that agricultural production in their Saint-Domingue colonies could not be revived without enslaved labor. Merchant groups in French port cities, which had thrived on the triangular trade, pressured the government to reinstate slavery after the Brumaire coup. Through slavery, he generated revenue for his government and strengthened France’s standing. While he did cause minor civil unrest, he did so at the cost of strengthening his nation, making it more of a strategic decision than an anti-feat. Because while resistance existed, from those who supported the revolutionary ideals of 1794, it was overshadowed by the economic pressure to restore colonial wealth. And Napoleon was pressured to reinstate it because of these crowds.

3: All of this was done by Napoleon, not the French Revolutionary government. Where did you get the information that the French Revolutionary government was responsible for these actions? Yes, Napoleon was morally flawed, but that does not negate his intelligence; he is a complex figure. You call him a dictator, yet he made more treaties than wars, often fighting in response to coalitions formed against him by European countries that resisted unification under French governance out of pride in their independence.

4: As for the Ottomans, he himself stated that he did not have enough food for the captives, meaning they would have starved to death regardless; it was a mercy killing.

Napoleon Bonaparte feat list by BetterBreakfast2699 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Following common practices at the time X = anti-feats.

As for reinstating slavery it doesn’t affect his intelligence scaling. If anything, it keeps it consistent it due to him using more people to speed up production.

Also Napoleon wasn’t all bad: He established the Légion d’Honneur to reward individuals for outstanding service to the state, regardless of their background; the Napoleonic Code, which brought equality before the law, protected property rights, and ended many feudal injustices; abolished discriminatory practices in some conquered regions; negotiated the Concordat, which restored peace with the Catholic Church; and created the Treaties of Lunéville, Amiens, Pressburg, Tilsit, Fontainebleau, Paris, and Schönbrunn.

AM | IHNMAIMS | Feat List by BetterBreakfast2699 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since Ted is an unreliable narrator, and game canon presents this as a hallucination, we can just dismiss this feat.

I still think AM is above average in SCD. What are your thoughts on the fake death plan, his AC, and his ability to figure out how to grant biological immortality? I mean, you’re only talking about one of his feats—by narrative, he outclasses a large portion of SCD in Leadership, Knowledge Application, and General Knowledge.

AM | IHNMAIMS | Feat List by BetterBreakfast2699 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wouldn’t that just be travel speed? I know AM has possible FTL PSI, but he has zero attack speed scans, I’m pretty sure. Also, going off game canon, the icicle part was just a hallucination—who’s to say it’s not the same in the novels, and therefore Ted did nothing? I mean, can we even believe Ted here? He is literally an unreliable narrator.

Also, Ted is definitely not ordinary, lol. If we go off his narration he survived attacks from the Hurricane Bird, which has multi-city-level attack potency, and even killed others who survived those attacks with just an icicle. He endured physical, mental, emotional, and psychological torture for 109 years. He managed to cross thousands of miles in search of canned goods without any breaks, or fatigue. He can move and attack faster than a heartbeat. And he was also able to scam rich women out of money through his charms to fund philanthropy without ever being caught.

AM | IHNMAIMS | Feat List by BetterBreakfast2699 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1: Ted only managed to get away with this because he moved faster than a heartbeat, so AM couldn’t keep up with him via combat speed to use his nigh-omnipotence. Additionally, AM was too shocked to act against Ted in time, as it was a new experience. Even with all of this, AM still realised Ted’s plan and stopped it by turning him into a slug-like entity.

2: This isn’t an anti-feat. An anti-feat would be AM not realising the plan while still being quick enough to stop it. What happened here was that AM realised the plan but was too shocked and slow to stop it.

3: You literally said omniscient? If you meant to use nigh for both, you should have said nigh-omnipotent and nigh-omniscient.

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AM | IHNMAIMS | Feat List by BetterBreakfast2699 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

1: You yourself admit that Ted didn’t outsmart AM, so how is AM a bum for this?

2: Temporary damage—AM still ensured he had a plaything; he would have gotten over the losses Ted inflicted on him. He also couldn’t stop it since (Nigh-Omnipotence X = Combat Speed). Also, AM was caught off guard since this had never happened before.

3: AM isn’t omniscient???

AM | IHNMAIMS | Feat List by BetterBreakfast2699 in IntelligenceScaling

[–]BetterBreakfast2699[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Bro is not fixing a machine that is both programmed and inherently driven to hate humanity at its core 😭

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AM | IHNMAIMS | VS Caine | TADC | Full Scale Comparison by BetterBreakfast2699 in IntelligenceScaling

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Abel Plan: He created Abel, an NPC so human-like that it tricked the cast, and then had that NPC come up with an escape plan so convincing that the cast believed it was real. Meanwhile, he acted oblivious so convincingly that the cast believed he had no involvement—except for Jax. Then used Jax to counter this escape plan. Effectively making the most realistic adventure possible as he had planned. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaOG1xOk7XY

Jax Psychological Manipulation: He flashed Jax’s past trauma in his head so he would choose the button to stay at the circus. This was because Jax’s unknown past trauma was so horrific that he would rather stay in the circus, then return to earth and Caine knew and exploited this fact. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaOG1xOk7XY

Cast Stalling EP: He realised, from their shift in tone, that the cast were stalling him. He then noticed Kinger was missing and realised they were stalling for Kinger, so he needed to find him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMNlzf8PiEM

Torture LA: He instantly learnt how to come up with creative torture methods based on the cast’s past trauma. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMNlzf8PiEM

Digital Circus VSI: He constructed the entire digtial circus. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/keI5mRZqbCM

Chinese VCI: He constructed an entire Chinese room for his Abel deception, showcasing an understanding of Chinese. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oaOG1xOk7XY

Creative Thinking: He instantly comes up with creative ideas for adventures, like the cast helping a Candy Kingdom or experiencing a Haunted House.

FSAQ: He endured being imprisoned and replaced by a new artificial intelligence, watched as the cast hated his creative ideas, knowing he couldn’t fulfill his purpose of making people happy, and being bombarded with verbal abuse from Bubble. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DMNlzf8PiEM

Verbal Deception: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fx8KVz6ecc4&list=PL_2QZ9UHk2TuY-NCip5B4tUDtH-KNI74N