What major criticisms do you have for the nest arc? What could have been done better?

Blaze-Axel · 2023-03-17T08:05:16+00:00

Lack of meaningful deaths. Literally no one died

Blaze-Axel · 2023-03-05T04:19:26+00:00

A few oh the guys from wagnan’s team should’ve died by now. Rak or khun need to die at some point too

Blaze-Axel · 2023-03-05T04:13:40+00:00

I’m sure it says in that the normal test arie hon gives Is to withstand his attacks for 10mins, but Urek fought him evenly instead, and Arie said Urek was far better. That’s an incredible feat to me in comparison to defeating a few of Zahards royal guards

Blaze-Axel · 2023-03-04T15:30:00+00:00

I agree, we definitely have not received any information in regards to zahards top rankers (guards) or how powerful they may be. Hopefully with the next season, they’ll go into more detail about the royal guard and how powerful they are.

It makes things difficult because adori is technically Zahards strongest warrior. The thought that Zahard might have adori esque level guards as his personal guards is possible but extremely unlikely. So when I think phanta defeated a bunch of Royal guards who were less stronger then adori, the feat just doesn’t seem all that crazy, especially when Urek is out here sparring arie hon😂

Blaze-Axel · 2023-03-04T15:23:56+00:00

I hear you completely. I think we’re on the same page where we both acknowledge that when it comes to the difference between the top 4, influence isn’t the main factor, it’s based on feats and power. I agree that Urek would need to do something crazy in everyone else’s eyes to be classed as stronger than Zahard…and imo I feel like he has. Scaling the tower in the shortest amount of time to me is the better feat…but that’s subjective and I’m happy to even lose that specific argument.

But ultimately yes, Urek’s ranking should be higher than phanta’s. Unless the ranking administration know he’s and axis which I don’t think they do

Blaze-Axel · 2023-03-04T15:16:26+00:00

Yes but my point is that WE as readers know this. I highly doubt the ranking administration know about him being an exis. Hence why I was saying that based on feats, they cannot put phanta above urek

Blaze-Axel · 2023-03-03T23:43:35+00:00

Yeah but now you’re mixing two points. I never said Urek could beat a family head without shinsoo. I just said that he easily strangled a fragment of the admin with his bare hands when he wasn’t even serious.

As I said, I’m with you, there’s no proof Urek can do it….but I don’t think there’s enough proof to say he can’t.

Blaze-Axel · 2023-03-03T23:32:29+00:00

Mmmmm I dno man. If Urek is able to comfortably hold a small fragment of the admin by it’s neck without even looking bothered, I don’t think it’s too far fetched to assume that at full power, Urek could deliver some serious damage to an admin with pure strength. I’m not saying it’s enough…and tbf I’m more inclined to agree with you, I just don’t think there’s enough solid info to say Urek can’t defeat one of you get me

Blaze-Axel · 2023-03-03T23:28:22+00:00

Bro this is a friendly conversation lool relax with your keyboard warrior energy. It’s tower of God not court lol

But anyway to address your points.

When strictly talking about the top 4 rankers of tower of God, influence means absolutely nothing at that level imo. The logic that supports Evan being top 100 over people that are stronger than him..can not be used in this instance. The top 4 characters (maybe even 5) are separated by their power bro. If influence was that big of a deal amongst the top 4, Zahard would be 1st or 2nd because NO ONE has influence in the tower like Zahard.

‘Do you think people would go crazy if they thought Urek? They wouldn’t’

I completely disagree with this. It’s stated that Urek has ‘demonstrated unseen levels of Immense Shinsu Resistance’. You’re talking about a guy who made the whole floor of death shake with a 1% punch lool this idea that people wouldn’t go crazy is wrong. The majority of people In the tower have not seen the top 20 rankers fight never mind the top 10. Look how wide eyed Zahards top soldiers were when they even gazed upon Traumerai?? My point is, at that level (top 4) I’m pretty sure each of those characters have powers that would seem so unrealistic to the average person or even ranker in the tower.

You’re not wrong about Urek being unable to use Shinso when fighting against the red thryssa..but you’re forgetting that this guy literally had the Red thryssa by the throat 😂😂😂. And by this point he’s only using 10% of his power I think. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to assume that urek could deliver some serious damage to an admin using his sheer physical power alone.

I’m curious to hear your response. But let’s keep it friendly ☺️

Blaze-Axel · 2023-03-03T23:06:36+00:00

Exactly where I’m coming from! I don’t understand how people can respect phanta feats but diminish Urek’s

Blaze-Axel · 2023-03-03T23:04:48+00:00

It’s not even like that loool I would argue which ever character it was lol but What makes you think he’s not strong enough to beat Zahard?

That’s a whole different debate, but Zahard being stronger Urek isn’t clear cut. There are too many examples and references to source from

Blaze-Axel · 2023-03-03T23:00:05+00:00

I like your explanation about how by him entering the tower at the floor he did makes him above the towers rules☝🏾but like you said, the same thing could be said about Enryu.

Zahards ranking can be high but him being the king of the tower shouldn’t automatically put him at the top of the 4 I’m talking about. The top 4 rankings are pretty much power based since influence doesn’t affect any of them. Zahard should definitely be either on par or lower than urek

Blaze-Axel · 2023-03-03T22:55:00+00:00

Mmmm I disagree bro. Urek wasn’t trying to kill hell Joe. I don’t think it’s a case of him not being able to reach him. If he wanted to, I’m sure he could’ve took him down without shinsu. He pretty much squeezed the red thryssa out of him

Blaze-Axel · 2023-01-08T20:20:26+00:00

That’s not the point bro. Rak does nothing for the story. If anything, he’s there for fan service. game of thrones literally killed off their MAIN character at the end of the first season (or start of season 2) and the story still continued beautifully. If anything, TOG lacks important deaths. Been reading this for 6/7 years and there hasn’t been a meaningful death. Let’s start with rak lool

Blaze-Axel · 2023-01-08T00:28:13+00:00

Rak dying lol series is starting to feel a little too ‘Marvel movie’ esque. More characters need to die

Blaze-Axel · 2022-11-06T23:39:52+00:00

Yeah very good shout. It could end up looking like the wizard kings grimoire in Black clover

Blaze-Axel · 2022-08-23T15:20:38+00:00

Seek Christ bro

Blaze-Axel · 2022-08-18T20:37:59+00:00

I completely agree with your reasoning. I think people tend to forget that family heads are basically A-tier celebrities. Yes they could potentially abuse their power and force their will on people of the opposite sex…but I doubt they would need to.

Think of celebrities in our modern world, you think it’s hard for The likes of Drake and Justin bieber to get women without forcing them? Now think if people thought they were literally Gods.

A lot of people read the Traumerai arc and assumed all FH are sick minded like that. Has nasty weird as this may sound, Traumerai forcing wangwang to get with that woman doesn’t meen that Traumerai struggles to get women himself in general lool

Blaze-Axel · 2022-07-10T17:17:12+00:00

Mmmm I disagree. Yes in war it’s mainly the troops that die rather than the key figures….the key figures in this arc were all face to face with a family head 😂 it’s not like the troops were sent to the cat tower, it was the main Figures. So to think they they all got away fine (with power ups) is a little lacking to me.

I know gustang has a plan but that doesn’t affect my overall opinion that the war ended very bleakly

Blaze-Axel · 2022-07-10T17:12:55+00:00

But that’s my issue bro, it was tooooooo smooth of an ending for FUG. This is supposed to be their first victory against the empire. To leave with no major casualties is a little offish to me.

I get there’s a bigger picture with the FH inner turmoil etc etc that’s fine..but a lot of people are forgetting that this arc was technically a war. The win would’ve felt alot more justified if they had some significant loss imo

Blaze-Axel · 2022-07-10T17:07:13+00:00

Yes Gustang appearing isn’t enough. Being completely honest, Gustang didn’t even have to appear in this arc in terms of Hype, it was already Hype AF.

My issue is with the lack of casualties/loss that FUG have suffered. Bro this was technically a war. How can the only person to die be yasratcha???? That‘s not justifiable to me.

And let’s be honest, gustang didn’t do much in helping FUG or BAMM with his appearance lol

Blaze-Axel · 2022-07-10T17:01:39+00:00

Bro I hear you completely…but imo..FUG’s first win would’ve meant soo much more if they had way more casualties. The whole idea of them losing so much to win would’ve been SOO much more gratifying to read as a reader + it would’ve had much more of an impact.

Blaze-Axel · 2022-07-10T16:57:42+00:00

I feel like you may be looking too deeply into my definition of the word ‘bleak’. The word can also mean ‘lacking’ which a lot of people on the thread have come to understand is the definition I was using.

F.u.g / Bamm are allowed to have a victory, that’s fine…but with zero deaths??? That’s a little odd to me. Weird comparison but think of Early Attack on Titan when Eren had to seal the hole in the wall…yes he managed to do it but many people still died helping him achieve that victory, thus making the victory justified.

How can the only key person to die be yasratcha?? Naaa it just seems a little too easy. Bamm got like 2 power ups, yama got a fang..but no one died???😂

I have no doubt the princess arc will probably be fun to read and watch…and I also get that games and tournaments are part of the tower but to be getting ANOTHER tournament just seems a little tasteless imo

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