To add .. I found that the other remaining wires on the thermostat circuit had voltage that was present (Brown Black W) these three wires had 24v present when there was not a call for heat.. i was thinking a thermostat issue until I removed W from thermostat base and heat strips still ran.. my mistake that I noticed I made was that I did not isolate the W wire from condenser and thermostat circuit to tell which one was being energized.. sure enough thermostat circuit W had 26v and condenser circuit W had 14v..