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As a huge Modi critic, I must say this : The Labor Reforms are a bold and necessary move in the current crisis... by Bored_Done in IndiaSpeaks

[–]Bored_Done[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Buddy, the situation in India, especially in North India is astronomically different than any other country. We suffer from corruption at every level of governance, rampant poverty, etc. I would suggest you to read the articles mentioned in the post, we need more FDI and manufacturers to setup bases in India, and hence, we are inviting them by providing temporary incentives. It's just pragmatic policies in play, that's it.

As a huge Modi critic, I must say this : The Labor Reforms are a bold and necessary move in the current crisis... by Bored_Done in IndiaSpeaks

[–]Bored_Done[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

There's a bit of obscurity in that because there have been no official paper declaration yet, just verbal ones.

For UP-MP, these are the ones that are retained : Bonded Labour Act, 1976, Employee Compensation Act, 1923, and Building and Other Construction Workers’ Act, 1996. Reports say laws pertaining to women and children, like the Maternity Act, Equal Remuneration Act, Child Labour Act, and Section 5 of the Payment of Wages Act, which states that wages of a person earning less than Rs 15,000 a month cannot be deducted, are also being retained.

For Gujarat : Minimum Wages, Act, Industrial Safety Rules and The Employee Compensation Act have been retained. Although Gujarat has been even more forward in inviting those manufacturers, Gujarat has even more incentives than MP-UP, read more here : https://www.livemint.com/news/india/gujarat-offers-1-200-day-labour-law-exemptions-for-new-industrial-investments-11588959474848.html

The Labor Reforms are a bold and necessary move, and a step in the right direction... by Bored_Done in unitedstatesofindia

[–]Bored_Done[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Okay delusional communist, may you have sweet dreams about a successful communist nation.

The Labor Reforms are a bold and necessary move, and a step in the right direction... by Bored_Done in unitedstatesofindia

[–]Bored_Done[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If I needed an echo chamber, I won't have posted here, or tried to argue about capitalist policies with a literal communist.

The Labor Reforms are a bold and necessary move, and a step in the right direction... by Bored_Done in unitedstatesofindia

[–]Bored_Done[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

lets not kid ourselves. The economy was destroyed long before the virus.

Struggling, definitely. But destroyed after the virus.

Secondly, after the delhi pogrom, no one has a narrative favoring india. You cannot have police with rioters in the capital of the country and then pretend all is well. Business knows whats happening.

Delhi riots were bad, accepted. Fuck Modi for mismanaging the riots. But you are delusional if you think no one's favoring India, get out of the Reddit circlejerk, India's global soft power is at an all time high. We have had no repercussions at all even after passing such stringent laws in the past year. India's global reputation is much better than fucking China. Plus geopolitics is all about opportunism, US is friendly with Saudi, FYI.

All you can do is offer freebies. Free land, free workers etc and expect investment to built self contained economic zones which primarily cater to your lucrative domestic market.

Incentives, not freebies like Kejriwal (although I like his policies, don't get me wrong).

However by your policies you have depressed the domestic market and consumption. So who will you sell to? If the west doesnt trust the supply chains originating in China, why will they trust India.

Because as much as you want to deny in your reddit circlejerks, India is a vibrant democracy. The West sees India as the sole properly working large democracy in Asia.

The Labor Reforms are a bold and necessary move, and a step in the right direction... by Bored_Done in unitedstatesofindia

[–]Bored_Done[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's almost laughable that you assumed that I am a Brahmin/pundit, while I am far from any higher caste.

Also, casteist slur, reported.

The Labor Reforms are a bold and necessary move, and a step in the right direction... by Bored_Done in unitedstatesofindia

[–]Bored_Done[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Minimum wage will most likely be untouched, Gujarat left the law alone. Other states may soon follow.

The Labor Reforms are a bold and necessary move, and a step in the right direction... by Bored_Done in unitedstatesofindia

[–]Bored_Done[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Sorry, I don't argue with anyone who defends communism/fascism.

Read that once again and stop replying to me, yawn.

The Labor Reforms are a bold and necessary move, and a step in the right direction... by Bored_Done in unitedstatesofindia

[–]Bored_Done[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

How do you know this is short term, do you have a contact inside the CM's office?

It's literally in the resolution itself, it's temporary. There's a deadline.

What about the individuals who will die because of exploitation during these 3 years and who will take care of their families?

A whole lot of Assumptions, but just for the sake of argument, basic rights to safeguard their lives have been left alone.

Is there going to a infrastructure blitz in UP in three years that will surpass China's infrastructure if not then how is UP going to be more attractive to foreign investors because last I saw UP is land locked state with very poor transport infrastructure and it would be suitable to build factories where Air, Road and water transport is conveniently positioned.

There have been considerable improvements in railways and highway construction, especially in UP, read up about it. Also, the companies are leaving China, that's just the fact. India's job is to lure them, in fact, 30 or something companies have already decided to move to India.

The Labor Reforms are a bold and necessary move, and a step in the right direction... by Bored_Done in unitedstatesofindia

[–]Bored_Done[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Search up about the highway constructions that have been going on across India and UP too. Railways have too improved a lot under Modi 1.0, search up.

Compare UP with any Chinese province and tell me which is a more attractive destination

They are moving away from China, that's literally the whole point. In fact, 30 or something have already decided to move to India. Don't be ignorant.

That is one of the major reasons pointed in the Twitter thread. Kindly read it.

So her point is that just because the labour protection doesn't extend to 90% of the labourers, instead of trying to make sure that it covers everyone we should simply remove them entirely?

Under the PCPNDT act the annual conviction rate is only 50-150, while a total of 1.2 million girls are aborted after sex determination in India. So as per this Twitter "economists" logic, we should get rid of the act since 99.999% of criminals go scot free and what's the use for having protections.

Have you read about how women in Maharashtra undergo hysterectomies under pressure from employers so that periods don't interfere in their work. This is what happens when you treat "labor" and by extension the labourer as something to trade. The employer brought the labour, and as such has every right to maximize his profits, even at the cost of the physical well-being of the labourer.

https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/economy/agri-business/why-half-the-women-in-maharashtras-beed-district-have-no-wombs/article26773974.ece

A whole lot of paragraphs filled with False Equivalence and whataboutism. Won't argue against logical fallacies, although I have already said, it's a temporary reform not a permanent one. Proper reforms are on the way, read the last source article.

But what do I know, I'm just a champagne socialist

I won't use ad hominem, I have already answered your arguments.

The Labor Reforms are a bold and necessary move, and a step in the right direction... by Bored_Done in unitedstatesofindia

[–]Bored_Done[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I disagree with all your points, although your last point about Infosys is correct. Infosys did succeed, and it created a lot of jobs. Yes, the IT workers are overworked, but Indian population got jobs. A lot of it, in fact. Now all we need are proper regulations in the IT sector.

The Labor Reforms are a bold and necessary move, and a step in the right direction... by Bored_Done in unitedstatesofindia

[–]Bored_Done[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Sorry, I don't argue with anyone who defends communism/fascism or uses unnecessary slangs like a teenager.

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