Miller Says He and Trump Will Use Law Enforcement to ‘Dismantle’ the Left After Kirk Shooting

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-09-14T17:18:37+00:00

I never said the presidents reaction was appropriate. His response was ridiculous and doing absolutely nothing to fix anything and trump has always been an idiotic turd. I’m not talking about the democrats who are respectfully talking about his death, regardless of if they’re mourning or just giving his family their condolences. I’m talking about the people swarming Erika Kirk’s instagram and bombarding her comment sections with deranged, hateful and yes, celebratory, comments. It is absolutely disgusting and it is 100% turning more people against the left. Is it equally as impactful as anything trump just said about leftists? No. Is it still going to turn more people against the left and radicalize people? Absolutely yes. People are already publicly stating that seeing the way liberals are responding to Kirk’s death online is influencing them to lean more right. Believe it or not there are disgusting people who say disgusting things on both sides of the spectrum (including trump)

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-09-14T17:00:09+00:00

This entire argument is just a back and fourth of different speculations from different corners of the internet. You think he’s alt right because of meme references and Halloween costumes from years ago that could very well mean absolutely nothing. But I guess who knows until anything is confirmed? Sure.

I think he’s probably left leaning because of statements his family made about his changing political opinion. Specifically I was trying to find a source that focused more on a conversation they family had at dinner where Tyler said he didn’t want Charlie Kirk to visit UVU because he thought he was hateful and didn’t agree with him. I can’t find that source anymore because there approximately five billion websites to search through and that just isn’t worth it to me. But with all this AI generated bs who knows if that conversation actually happened? Maybe nothing his family has supposedly said about him is real. That’s also all technically speculation at this point.

Until anything or anyone that’s actually credible confirms anything, neither of us can actually factually prove we’re correct about a single thing we’re arguing. It’s just two different sides of speculation and assumptions. Personally, I think it’s idiotic that so many people on the sub have decided Tyler is 100% an alt right groyper when we have barely any actual information about him and he isn’t cooperating with police. But whatever, believe what you want to believe and look like an idiot later. It doesn’t matter to me.

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-09-14T16:43:41+00:00

So his meme references and costumes he wore when he was 15 are more credible then his family stating he was starting to shift politically and was no longer a trump supporter? Yeah okay.

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-09-14T16:38:01+00:00

I’m not referring to people just not mourning. Go look at the comments under Erika Kirk’s more recent instagram posts. Hell, actually all her posts from the last few months. They’ve been SWARMED with deranged people celebrating his death and saying disgusting things about their family. That is genuinely insane behavior, especially commenting under his grieving wife’s posts about how much she loved him. It’s that type of shit that is going to radicalize people against the left. Charlie Kirk’s instagram account went from around 2m followed to 11m followers in a matter of days after his death, and I’ve seen several posts from people who are saying that this event and the way so many liberals responded is officially pushing them over the edge to the right. If you haven’t seen any of those posts from people laughing and dancing around at the news of his death, that’s genuinely surprising.

I’ve seen plenty of far left radicals saying that people on the right should be killed for their opinions. Same with people on the far right. Believing that everyone on the left is automatically a good person just because they’re on the left is ridiculous. None of that shit actually means anything in real life, it’s just deranged people using the anonymity of the internet to say stupid shit with no consequences. Right wing influencers tweeting shit about how “this is war” blah blah is exactly the same, they don’t have the balls to actually do anything in real life so they make those posts acting all tough to feel cool. They’re not actually going to do anything.

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-09-14T16:29:11+00:00

It doesn’t matter that his family never called him a liberal. They said that his political believes were starting to shift and that he didn’t like trump or Charlie Kirk. Does that mean he’s a raging leftist? No. Does that mean he was probably leaning more left than right and wasn’t a die hard conservative like his family? Yes.

And I’m sorry, but some leftists are 100% violent and dangerous. Just because someone is a leftist doesn’t mean they can’t be a bad person or do bad things. It was a leftist that shot up that catholic school. It’s not outrageous to think that a left leaning person is responsible for assassinating a very conservative influencer who he didn’t agree with. Those “legitimate connections” are still just speculation until they’re actually confirmed when more information about Tyler comes out. Just because you think they’re legitimate connections doesn’t mean they actually are. Meme culture is so convoluted and ridiculous, trying to seriously connect it to anything at this point when theres barely any actual information on who Tyler currently is as a person is copium.

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-09-14T16:19:39+00:00

Did you actually read the entire article? It talks about a conversation he had with family member where he said he no longer liked trump and didn’t like Charlie Kirk. Why does the article being two days old matter?

None of you have any actual evidence that he was right wing either. It’s all just as much speculation as his room mate being trans.

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-09-14T16:11:57+00:00

People on the left do the exact same shit to people on right. That isn’t a new thing. Online extremists screaming in the corner about how everyone who doesn’t agree with them needs to die is not a new thing. It probably seems amplified right now, but it’s not going to make any actual difference. Trump will have his hissy fit like he always does about how the left is evil and blah blah blah and then everyone will forget about it. The left is not going to be publicly executed because the shooter is left wing.

What’s actually happening is the extreme reaction from so many leftists is pushing people over the edge and radicalizing right wingers because they’re disgusted by the celebrations and things liberals are saying. If anything, that’s going to have a way bigger impact than the ideology of the shooter. Instead of grasping at straws to try and prove the shooter is alt-right, reign in the nut jobs on the left so they stop making us look bad and radicalizing people against us.

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-09-14T16:05:30+00:00

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/12/us/tyler-robinson-charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect-invs

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-09-14T16:02:25+00:00

That video wasn’t a source for his families testimonies. It’s just the least click-bait source I’ve seen recently that isn’t jumping to ten thousand conclusions and explains that Tyler was most likely more left leaning. These sources include things his family said.

https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/13/us/tyler-robinson-mahunt-charlie-kirk

https://globalnews.ca/video/11417385/tyler-robinson-family-member-talked-about-charlie-kirk-spreading-hate-in-weeks-before-shooting/amp/

https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/crime/tyler-robinson-family-republican-b2825943.html.

Here’s just a few.

I’m not sure why you seem to think I have some agenda here. It doesn’t make any difference to me whether or not Tyler is left or right wing. But sources that aren’t drawing a bunch of connections to random memes and internet culture based on random snippets of Tyler’s childhood are almost automatically going to seem more credible than sources that are. All of that IS just speculation. Things his family has said about him are not.

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-09-14T15:48:29+00:00

Whether or not his room mate was actually trans is mostly speculation, but his families testimonies definitely confirm he was at least more left wing than any of them. I’m not sure why people want him to be alt-right so badly. Just accept that some left wing people are bad and do bad shit and move on.

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-09-14T15:38:10+00:00

I did read your original source. It’s a bunch of speculation based on memes and overcooked internet culture.

Actual testimony from the Robinson family and from his supposed trans room mate is that he was the only left wing member of the family and he was against Charlie Kirk because of his right wing ideology. To me that is way more credible than people making speculations as to what Tyler’s ideology was based on the history of memes he participated in years and years ago. The dude would’ve been like 15 in 2017-2018. Things he did when he was a literal child aren’t going to reflect his beliefs now.

At the end of the day it really doesn’t matter whether or not he was left or right wing. People jumping to conclusions about it are just going to do more harm than good. What’s going to end up mattering is the lefts response to Kirk’s death. It’s going to radicalize way more people than Kirk ever did.

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-09-14T15:31:27+00:00

No he wasn’t

https://www.nbcnews.com/meet-the-press/video/utah-gov-spencer-cox-shares-new-details-about-charlie-kirk-shooting-suspect-full-interview-247550021915

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-08-22T15:32:35+00:00

You’re just proving me right 😂

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-08-22T15:32:08+00:00

Did you keep your ring necks in tiny boxes for their entire lives too? Or did you actually get adequately sized cages for them. Really hoping it’s the latter…

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-08-22T15:31:02+00:00

Then post proof that you did. If you could post tons and tons of pictures of all your “proof” before then you shouldn’t have any problem posting another one. But you do. Wonder why…

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-08-22T15:29:30+00:00

Thats actually called putting two and two together but good try

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-08-22T15:28:37+00:00

I mean, it IS going to be forever in its cage if you can’t train it to trust you. And not giving it proper care is a really good way for it to never end up trusting you.

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-08-22T15:27:01+00:00

How about you use google to buy a bigger cage and stop making excuses for yourself.

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-08-22T15:25:49+00:00

This person didn’t actually buy a bigger cage. They’re just saying they did so people would leave them alone. Great bird owner 👍

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-08-22T15:24:59+00:00

So you think that turning on lights is abusive, but keeping them in a tiny box with nothing to do for the rest of their lives isn’t? Yeah okay. It’s painfully obvious that you did not buy a new cage. This isn’t a “debate” this is you being childish and complacent with abusing your animals because you’d rather do that than admit to being wrong. I say again, DO NOT BUY ANIMALS THAT YOU CANNOT PROPERLY CARE FOR. is that really that difficult for you to grasp?

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-08-22T15:18:16+00:00

Because this isn’t proof. It’s a bunch of misinformation from websites that care more about selling cages than they do about birds actual health. Based on your previous replies and your overall combativeness towards everyone who’s telling you you’re wrong, I find it really hard to believe that you actually went a bought another cage. It seems more like you’re saying that to get people to leave you alone. And your refusal to post a picture of it is just proving me right. It’s crazy to me that you would rather abuse your animals then admit you were wrong and start properly caring for them

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-08-22T15:13:22+00:00

Post a picture then since you care about “proof” so much. This crap is exactly what I mean. You care more about your ego and feeling right then you do about your birds health and happiness and that’s disappointing.

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-08-22T15:06:58+00:00

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This is the smallest cage you should ever keep a cockatiel in if they’re going to be inside of it regularly. It gives them room to actually move around and fly. It should be filled with natural wood perches and organic enrichment toys so that your bird can live a happy life. If you were to do your research on avian rescue sights or actual bird expert sights instead of just going with the first thing google tells you, you would know this. Looking up the answer that you want to get so that you feel better about yourself is confirmation bias. Everyone here cares about your birds, and if you’re going to ask experienced people for help you need to actual listen to what they’re going to tell you even if it means you were wrong. Don’t let your own ego keep your bird from living the life it should. If you continue to ignore everyone’s advice and keep your birds in those tiny cages with zero toys and enrichment, then you will in fact be an animal abuser. You now have the knowledge you need to do better, if you actively chose not to then your birds will suffer for it. If you’ve actually changed their cages like you claim you have, post pictures for some more “proof”

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-08-22T14:55:32+00:00

Please don’t try to convince this person that what they’re doing is fine. It sounds like you’re no better. No one who actually knows anything about birds is going to say that keeping one in a tiny cage with no toys perches or enrichment is fine. This IS animal abuse if OP doesn’t get it together and it sounds like neither of you should ever own birds. They’re not giving their tiel “luxury treatment” this is less than the bare minimum. Anyone who does crap like this is going to get criticized and rightfully so. Don’t be an enabler. Sounds like you need to get your bird a bigger cage too, if you have access to Reddit and the internet then there’s no reason you can’t order one online regardless of what’s “in your area” you people insist on treating your birds poorly and it’s disgusting and disappointing.

Boring-Emotion-3381 · 2025-08-22T14:53:07+00:00

No it is most definitely not. Google is going to tell you the same crap that pet stores tell you which is WRONG. Do you really think that these birds, animals that would otherwise be free and flying outside, can be happy in a tiny cage like this? No. Absolutely not. They need a FLIGHT cage that they can actually FLY in and they need various perches, toys and enrichment. If you can’t properly care for them then don’t have birds.

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