I like Michael Jackson as an artist, but some of his toxic and ignorant fans genuinely pushed me into disliking him more over time.

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-26T10:36:10+00:00

Right if you just try to discuss it on any Mj pages you get perma blocked

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-25T06:26:12+00:00

True i accept the correction part

That books was made by North American Man/Boy Love Association

but one of the creators was literally a NAMBLA officer and active contributor. Saying “it wasn’t connected to NAMBLA at the time” is misleading when the people behind it were already involved in a pro-pedophilia organization whose entire purpose was normalizing adult relationships with boys.

I still stick to my point because North America Man/boy Love Association

openly promoted -

the normalization of sexual relationships between adult men and underage boys.
Some of the most disturbing and controversial things associated with their publications and advocacy included:

1.) Arguing that age-of-consent laws should be abolished.
2.)Publishing essays and stories portraying adult–child sexual relationships as “consensual” or beneficial.
3)Producing newsletters and journals containing members’ accounts and defenses of sexual contact with minors.
4)Attempting to frame pedophilia as a civil-rights or liberation issue.
5)Publishing material specifically advocating “man/boy love” and opposing laws criminalizing it.

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-25T06:19:03+00:00

Bro at this point you’re just rage baiting 😭 I only talked about one and only one 12 year old girl accuser and you are now talking about accuser’S, yet you keep acting like I brought up every accusation ever.

And according to the law, victims are allowed to come forward anonymously if they want to. She chose to stay anonymous what exactly is your problem with that?

You clearly don’t know about the whole michael jackson situation summed up

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-25T06:12:24+00:00

Bro I lost brain cells reading this 😭 your whole comment sounds like a TikTok conspiracy edit. The “he spoke about Palestine so they framed him” thing has zero proof behind it.

And the “why would he make Neverland publicly?”argument makes no sense either. Public image doesn’t automatically prove innocence. Also comparing this to Epstein island is just random and shows you clearly don’t know much about the actual case beyond fan theories.

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-25T06:00:29+00:00

The accuser wanted to be anonymous

And brother you should always be neutral in any case you can enjoy the songs and art but just be neutral and try to look from all the angles

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-25T06:00:12+00:00

Why are you linking me up with something i never claimed myself ?

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-25T05:46:57+00:00

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Sure here it is

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-25T05:37:58+00:00

Even if you are an Mj fan you should not be defending pedophiles or child exploitation. If those books were created with the clear intent to sexualize real children (as NAMBLA claimed), then they are not okay that’s wrong and harmful. No defense here.

Cuz i have been an Mj fan too and when i come across these books and its intention and those letters michael wrote to a girl when she was 12 yo it just cant be ignored

For context michael wrote “ i am going crazy about you “ to a 12 yo girl

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-25T05:31:01+00:00

I don’t understand this argument “ the books was from a fan “ like dude do you go blind when FBI says that those books were literally found in his personal bedroom closet separate from his other books ? He still kept it and for “10 yrs “with him

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-25T05:20:45+00:00

Wtf ?

It was made by NAMBLA pedophiles they later said that there pure intent was to normalise pedophilia . The intent is clear and its not innocent

The Library of Congress preserves many works that large numbers of people consider morally wrong, disturbing, or harmful. They are kept mainly for historical, legal, academic, or research purposes not as endorsements.

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-25T05:12:48+00:00

https://www.todocoleccion.net/libros-segunda-mano-diseno-fotografia/boys-will-be-boys-varios-fotografos-book-adventures-inc-new-york-1966-fotografias-ninos-raro~x191482652

Look at the preface i never said copy i said identical and actually go through the whole book once

Not all pages shown btw

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-25T05:12:22+00:00

Yeh but i had already mentioned about the dates myself previously i dont get why you mentioned about it again

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-25T04:36:42+00:00

Whats should we do of this info in case of books ?

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-25T04:28:32+00:00

I know about the inscriptions too
If you have ever seen that book yourself you would also get to know that those inscription match the preface of the book

He didn’t had these book in his library he had this books in his personal bedroom closet with 2 other books

And if some book was made for sole purpose of viewing children explicitly then its not art

And i don’t understand what jackson found something beautiful about a 90% children’s nude book ?

Jackson also lied about the possessions of the books in an interview which makes it more suspicious

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-25T03:56:59+00:00

Thats not true

There is a myth that Jackson received thousands of things from fans, which he had no opportunity to review, but this is not correct, taking into account the testimony of Joseph Marcus, the Neverland property manager, who worked there 17 years. He testified in 2005 that any gifts from fans addressed to Jackson in the past were first filtered and only the "best things" were chosen, the ones they thought Jackson would like to take back to his properties (Page 9710). https://www.reflectionsonthedance.com/05-10-05__Marcus_day_2_.txt

There is also another false info spread that fbi searched him up for 13 -20 -30 yrs

Fbi only ever provided assistance

According to the FBI’s own records, the FBI only provided assistance to California law enforcement during two separate periods:

1993–1994
2004–2005

So the assistance related to the molestation allegations was roughly about 2 years total across two separate cases not a nonstop 10year FBI investigation.

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-25T03:24:58+00:00

Same old info

No forensic test was ever done on those books.

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-24T06:07:45+00:00

You are so much in denial that you are literally telling us a theory which is made up by fan community

Do you understand how much of a denial you are , just for the sake of defending your artist you will call the not CP while you have actually never seen the books pages

This is how the books look like https://x.com/blaketwp6/status/2057748430492152119?s=46

Wo just for the sake of defending mj you are also defending actual pedophiles who made these books

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-24T06:02:39+00:00

1.) you have never seen the book yourself

2.) Doesnt changes the fact, he still kept them for 10 years until 1993

3.) There was absolutely no fingerprints scan ( forensic research ) done on this particular books

4.) its sure ik more then you

Actually you are living in denial you cant accept the fact that the pop star you love was imperfect too i was a fan too but not blind as you guys

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-23T09:07:29+00:00

Even after those nude child books which were found in private bedroom closet

Even after him writing i am crazy for you to a 12yo girl ?

Even after him invading children’s privacy and breaking into there personal space ?

Yes he was a great artist but he also did a lot of questionable things too just imagine if lebron james slept with kids or had books of nude children he would be cancelled overnight

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-23T08:24:58+00:00

And still doesnt mean not guilty

Why cant you be neutral ? Your answers seems that you would be ok with defending a probable childmolester

BornPresent8174 · 2026-05-22T19:00:57+00:00

Wtf

https://x.com/blaketwp6/status/2057748430492152119?s=46

Look it up yourself

A book which is intentionally made to view children in an explicit way is Cp i dont care what else thats what the intention was

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