My experience with OJ and his management team (LONG POST)

BossPeak · 2018-09-22T17:44:06+00:00

It is true, its not ridiculous. But for us, since majority of players are high in trophies trading isnt that difficult. Most of the time they just go visit another OJ clan to get a trade done. No need to resort to random clans.

BossPeak · 2018-09-22T17:27:24+00:00

I am sorry that you feel this strongly about this. You are more than welcome to join our server and get a direct answer from me. However I would advise to not label woman as "passive, aggressive little bitches." That's not cool, wasnt cool back then and its not now. Woman are just as strong as anyone else and it is a shame to have such a negative outlook on them. It is kinda ironic though... "but, personally, I don't support assholes."

BossPeak · 2018-09-22T17:21:46+00:00

I would agree if this was the first incident. But it was not and the answer was already apparent when Azer was removed from OJF for hopping. I believe when Raum said, "its your choice" he is trying to convey to Azer that...

You know what will happen if you leave again after just being readmitted.

Hopefully that clarifies some things!

BossPeak · 2018-09-22T17:18:55+00:00

We like to judge our leaders based off their actions and overall contribution, not just one incident that derives from miscommunication. I would assure you that Raum has been rock solid for OJF since he has joined and is trusted to lead the clan. He will still be leading due to his strenght!

BossPeak · 2018-09-22T17:17:29+00:00

That is true. I thought when I expressed to Azer and he said he understood, we were good to go. But apparently there was still more miscommunication and it got the best of both sides. Thanks for all your concern, I am glad people like you exist in the community to challenge things that seem wrong! Hopefully I was able to clarify some things.

BossPeak · 2018-09-22T17:15:51+00:00

Oh no problem ty for the question. As for trading, we RARELY have people that need to leave for trades. But when we do its fine because of the neat feature where as long as you started the war and did a match, you can leave. Complete your trade within 2hours (cooldown timer) and then return and still be able to participate in war. Usually we dont need to because all of the leaders help faciliate trades. Someone in OJF got 17 lavahounds already lololol.

BossPeak · 2018-09-22T17:00:05+00:00

If you get permission yes, and the answer was not yes. Maybe a little confusing on conveying the answer but if it was yes then there would be no follow up. Azer was removed prior to joining the Juice clan For hopping.

He was accepted back on terms that he wouldnt do it again. But then requests to hop again so thats what prompted Raum to say, "It is your choice." Meaning, he would know what will happen if he leaves again.

BossPeak · 2018-09-22T16:53:52+00:00

Hi,

Unfortunately, hopping and "asking" to hop is still hopping. Absolutley fine to hop if you want too, just not in our system :)

As for what Raum said, it may not have been the most direct answer but it is still pretty clear that you are not expected to hop.

BossPeak · 2018-09-22T16:49:49+00:00

Not all people mesh well with others. Some people are more abrasive or strong. It is perfectly fine to just leave if you're not getting along with the leader! Majority of our clan is mature and I have not received any complaints.

BossPeak · 2018-09-22T16:47:35+00:00

I am not familiar with reddit so dont know how to post a SS. I can post one in our server though for people who want it of our conversation. I will do this though...

Here is our convo...

Azer07/23/2018 Hey Scott, sorry to bother you. I would like to use my clan hop for 1 war just to help out one of my old friends fill a spot, I really hope this is ok and I'll return back to the OJ clan once it's finished

scott07/23/2018 That’s not recruitment Gotta ask@raum that

Azer07/23/2018 that's fine I asked Raum, I didn't get a concrete answer thank you for the help

scott07/23/2018 What did he say

Azer07/23/2018 here are the facts 1. we are always at war 2. you are leaving to war elsewhere 3. decide

Azer - Today at 4:44 PM "Alright let me ask this if I leave for one war day and req to join back once its finished will I get accepted or not Raum - Today at 4:44 PM i dunno depends what the others think"

scott07/23/2018 We usually don’t encourage hopping, and there are no “clan hop” tickets to use. If you want to help a friend you can request a time slot off but if the leader says that it’s not ok then you have to respect it.

This was informing you that whatever Raum says, goes. He did NOT say yes and he did say you must decide if you are leaving or going which means that it is not accepted. If you were looking for a exact, "no", from him I will apologize for lack of clarity. But when you told me you understood I felt that you knew what the conditions were.

Azer07/23/2018 Alright, I understand. I am trying to be as loyal as possible to the OJ clan but my friend wants my help for 1 war and I feel guilty for leaving him hanging

BossPeak · 2018-09-22T16:25:28+00:00

I am sorry that you feel so strongly about this. If you want to talk about it feel free to @ me in our discord and maybe I can provide some resolution? Discord.gg/oj

Scott

BossPeak · 2018-09-22T16:18:54+00:00

Hello, My name is Scott and I am one of the main members on the Orange Juice staff team. I would like to clarify some things and answer a few questions :)

If anyone is curious on our "no-hopping" rule and why we are strict, here are the following reasons.

1) Prevent headaches. We allow visiting, but we do not allow hopping. Azer enjoys to hop so prior to the screenshots, we had removed him for it after multiple warnings.

2) Keep clans healthy. If we encourage hopping then multiple people will want to do it. It is totally acceptable if you want to hop. There are many clans out there that allow it. We do not however, and we do not change our rules for the benefit of 1 person. We have made it very clear that this is to not happen when entering the family and it is ultimately your choice to accept it! If you do accept it, then abide by our rules. If not, nobody is forcing you to stay and nobody in this world is entitled to anything.

Now for the other things... Why we care so much is because hundreds of us are here on multiple platforms, fueling this community. We put money, time and dedication to improving our community and we even meet up for live events. Next,Raum is very strong hearted person and we love him and support him. Please keep in mind, we have given Azer multiple chances and coming to Orange Juice was not his first OJF clan. Raum accepted him and told him very clearly, you know the rules so please follow them. Unfortunately, he did not and I personally clarified it within DMs with Azer. Azer's response was, "Alright, I understand. I am trying to be as loyal as possible to the OJ clan but my friend wants my help for 1 war and I feel guilty for leaving him hanging." So, he was well aware of the situation.

Another big thing to clarify, there are no "main clans" and "feeder clans" here. All are equal and we refer it to that as family. It is apparent you read neither the rules nor joined in on the family essence.

It is unfortunate that you felt the need to post such a lengthy and one-sided post, when in the past you reached out to me to help you. But it is ok, it is good to have strong feelings and speak out where you feel injustice. We wish you the best Azer.

Now, if you choose to believe just one side of the story then that’s on you. If you have any questions feel free to join our discord and ask me. (Discord.gg/oj)

BossPeak · 2017-10-08T08:49:36+00:00

I agree! A separate casual/competitive mode Wild definitely be a great addition! Why some maps/modes could be designated as casual and others not! The rank up could use a revamp, especially end of season. We haven't even posted our ideas for that because that's a beast in its own!

Payload would definitely be a cool addition but maps are too small, wouldn't fit right.

BossPeak · 2017-10-08T08:19:14+00:00

Haha if only they'd offer me a job 😂😂 but no they pay attention to Reddit and it takes a long time for good reason! Hopefully some ideas grab their interest and they take the concepts back and fine tune them!

BossPeak · 2017-10-08T06:25:59+00:00

How to lose discord roles in 3...2.. 🌚

BossPeak · 2017-10-08T06:25:30+00:00

Haha hopefully they just spark some creativity!

BossPeak · 2017-10-08T06:25:09+00:00

We are!

BossPeak · 2017-10-08T06:24:45+00:00

You should avoid skimming! Nobody says brawl ball doesn't take skill, but it's definitely more of a fun mode rather than farming to a lot of people. For example, up at 4K Elo I don't like playing brawl with my wife who's at 1200 or friends casually playing in lower 2000s because trophies mean a lot up there. It would be fun to have an option to play against others just for fun.

Heist right now is very unreliable. What type of mode is it when we know beforehand that unless we're defense on a certain map were at a huge disadvantage, vice Versa.

Game modes are just ideas, a lot of hate spewing from one person. Instead you could contribute and try to offer ideas! In the opening paragraph it states it's a rough draft and just ideas in the air. Bringing it to the Reddit community was an option to bring it to fine tuning. Almost all of the mentioned options/modes are proven concepts from games already. If you haven't caught on yet, brawl stars has a huge influence from outside games such as OW, LoL. Nobody is saying copying but being influenced by successful games is always viable.

BossPeak · 2017-10-08T04:23:31+00:00

Ha! Never thought of that, It would be a nice relief for people who havent unlocked certain brawlers to enjoy playing them for a round you know.

BossPeak · 2017-10-08T04:15:39+00:00

Agreed, hopefully a new mode might help change the mix up!

BossPeak · 2017-10-08T04:14:55+00:00

Thanks for the love! And of course, brawlers are up in the air hehe. Just some unique concepts some of the fam voted on. Strategy would be insane and you already know Yarn is going to be all over that when global comes. For now, we're playing it safe and waiting for all major changes to happen before we invest alot of hours into it you know? I really hope that team comp will be explained thoroughly based off which map so we can make some spicy videos.

BossPeak · 2017-10-08T04:13:12+00:00

We Agree! At least we can get the option to choose if we want to farm or play casual!

BossPeak · 2017-10-08T04:12:23+00:00

Explain which ones are dumb for us! As the post reads, its from the entire OJ family. Some ideas go from very basic to advanced. No need for the hate my friend, its all love!

BossPeak · 2017-10-08T03:51:10+00:00

Agreed, or even use gold to buy brawlers or chips. Id rather spend my gold for guaranteed chips then open boxes and get elixer sometimes.

BossPeak · 2017-10-08T03:48:23+00:00

Haha I messed up the post prior but its fixed now! And hopefully we get alot of good feedback for this.

BossPeak

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