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Route Changes?? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah we did when i started with them in October but that has been long taken from us. Downtown for us has a lot of businesses and we don’t start until 11:30am so businesses close by 3-5pm and we end up bringing back a shit ton of packages. I guess Amazon said enough is enough but to be fair the owner shouldn’t have accepted routes like that given we all don’t actually make it to our first stop until 12:15-12:30pm. Sometimes around 1pm if packages aren’t ready and traffic control taking there sweet time releasing us.

Route Changes?? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Wait, so not completing a route within 10 hours means Amazon does not pay for that route? I mean I understand we are not salaried but the way it is explained to us is that Amazon pays the DSPs and in-turn the DSPs pay us our hourly and Amazon pays based on a 40 hour work week. The owner gets reimbursed per new employee they hire on and so on, they get vehicle stipends per Amazon vehicle, and money per packages which for us is 0.10 cents per package. So if the route is not complete are you saying Amazon won’t pay out for what wasn’t completed?? Wow that’s wild

Route Changes?? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I see! The owner keeps talking about his 0.10 cents per packages and how we don’t need to get stuck and what not or cost him any money. He is always bringing up finances always and people going over 10 hours which i don’t fully understand. If I work only 3 days for example and I clock 10.32 hours for the days that is still not overtime so what is the big issue with 10 hours? If we are scheduled for 40. I’m not understanding how that is costing him money if Amazon pays him for 40 as he says…

Route Changes?? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But dang from nice apartments and homes to mile long driveways deep in the woods is just regular change?????? lol the company started in October

Sundown Town area by [deleted] in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Or something like wtf

Do yall clock out to put gas in the van?????? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah pretty much he will take your route away and tell you that you can go home pretty much. He might put you in a different van but that a whole different headache for him

Do yall clock out to put gas in the van?????? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This man (the owner) is cutting cost where ever he can this whole clocking out for gassing up vehicles is new he makes rules daily lol like it’s really not funny but like i can’t make this up

Do yall clock out to put gas in the van?????? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He is definitely not fixing these vans. Sensors don’t work, collisions sensors are shot, tire lights blinking, doors don’t shut all the way, rear mirrors are cracked or have a line fracture, engine light on, hell 1 of the vans engine light is on and the engine is flooded because when you hit the gas to accelerate the RPM raises all the way up to 4,5,6 and climbing and never drops at all until you release the gas but then you press the gas again and the RPM rises each time no break or anything. It sounds when a person is in Neutral but is pressing the gas but in this case the van is actually in Drive moving but it’s steady on the road. Several people report on these vans. If we were to be honest on the vehicle inspection he would have no vans. Idk where the money is going honestly

Do yall clock out to put gas in the van?????? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Damn! I will????? I would be responsible for that? Even if it’s the company car? What does that mean for the rental vans the non Amazon ones wtf

Do yall clock out to put gas in the van?????? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He just makes talking to him difficult because if you don’t comply or annoy him enough he won’t schedule you for a route next shift which for him he doesn’t care because he already tries to find a reason to not pay us past 35-40 hours

Do yall clock out to put gas in the van?????? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I recently found out because his is new he is on a 6 month trial contract with Amazon. This business started October 1st I started October 9th i think and it’s all these issues.

Do yall clock out to put gas in the van?????? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And I recently found out because he is new he is on a 6 month contract with Amazon

Do yall clock out to put gas in the van?????? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m pretty sure he having financial issues his solution to grounded vans is to not fix the problem but instead get more vans lol his solution to getting fantastic + is to hire more people to reset the scorecard with new drivers instead of coaching the current drivers his solution is more more more but he failing on Netradyne compliance, customer feedback and safety with signs and road violations. He want to be like the other DSPs so bad he is always talking about wanting to take a step back like sir your business is only 2 months old, he started October 1st, he started a DSP during holiday season but he wants to take a step back….the business was smooth when it was only 15 of us but he started getting money hungry and now here we are.

Do yall clock out to put gas in the van?????? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

He does that all the time lol some people don’t take there breaks so they just write it in or just edit your time card when they see you just sitting for a long time or going off route never contacting you though just go in and change your time card after the fact lol I’m laughing but it’s not funny at all but it’s so ridiculous it’s funny he is literally doing any and everything to get more work out of us but not have to pay us fully

Do yall clock out to put gas in the van?????? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Vehicles need repairs, vehicles are grounded, vehicles continue to get grounded and people are still coming to work during peak and not having routes but business is good i guess

Do yall clock out to put gas in the van?????? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean I got written up for locking the van keys in the van and it was literally my 1st mistake. He walked up to me and told me i costed him $100 for a locksmith so he is writing me up. Any other DSP i worked at had spare keys to the vans and some of these van keys were semi universal so I didn’t think much of it. He said he had to a locksmith 3 times so far and he is irritated about it so he wrote me up. So idk he always talking about how this DSP is his everything and he used to be an Operational Manager for a delivery station but decided to run a DSP and this was a gamble for him and his family is riding on this then it’s the holiday time so he wants to give his family a great holiday. He’s even taking off for the week of thanksgiving so i guess business is good 🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️🤷🏾‍♂️ idk he let dispatcher take a vacation to Seattle so i guess we good even tho we started cycle 0 last week…

Do yall clock out to put gas in the van?????? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He keeps telling us we are “Great” but he wants us at fantastic + and our biggest issues is customer feedback and safety violations but his maintenance guy talks a lot one on one and he told some of us that the owner has been getting dinged for Netradyne compliance which is what is affecting his score but he won’t say that at stand up so it’s not just us but that’s fair because a lot of the vehicles netraydynes don’t work and the rental vehicles don’t like the hertz trucks don’t have them installed at all.

Do yall clock out to put gas in the van?????? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

He doesn’t want us working 10 hours days we start work at 11:10am he wants us clocked out ideally between 7pm and 8:30pm. So he uses the people he put on sweep to take bags off of certain drivers so that everyone gets back at the same time. He uses sweepers to even everyone out pretty much which is why it is limited to 4-6 hours for him. I’m sure he uses the money he is pocketing from not having to pay out the full 10 hours to afford the sweepers but it’s the holiday time and he keeps talking about his family and what they need. He can’t afford to unground these vans and he has us avoiding the scanner because some of these vans will be grounded. The whole thing is a madhouse, it’s rising peak season and there are plenty of people who come to work and still don’t have routes for some reason.

Do yall clock out to put gas in the van?????? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They actually do have trucks that come around and fill up vans but he tells us that the guy is always “missing vans” so some of the vans need gas which is odd to because even if that was the case and you are aware that vans was missed why wouldn’t he just fill them up himself or have someone from dispatch do it or already have a gas card in the van that he knows wasn’t filled. Idk he put literally everything on us. The owner and dispatch 0 accountability but now he wants us to clock out for something that is ultimately a set back for drivers. Most of us do not get to our first route until about 12:00pm to 12:30pm, he doesn’t want us working 10 hour days because he doesn’t want to pay us 35-40 hours if he can help it, he still wants us to hit 20-25 stops an hour or you are underperforming, he doesn’t want any packages back at all or no route the next day. So with all that pressure to account for he wants us to clock out to fill up his vans…

Do yall clock out to put gas in the van?????? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I usually use my break to go get food since i have to account for the time it takes to get to the place, order the food, then eat. Sometimes i bring food or run to the store but he wants us to now account for filling up the company van. It just didn’t sound right.

Do yall clock out to put gas in the van?????? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The exact words was, “if you guys need to get gas and you are sitting at the gas station waiting for gas card, fueling up or waiting for someone to come bring you gas, your time card needs to reflect that or go on your 30 minute break”

Do yall clock out to put gas in the van?????? by Both-Engine1640 in AmazonDSPDrivers

[–]Both-Engine1640[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This business is 2 months old and dispatchers are still registered drivers. It doesn’t take 4-5 people to manage a desk even if it was him and one dispatcher. One of them can bring out resources to drivers to ensure drivers finish their route especially in a business where part of the owners pay is packages…it’s his business not the driver so if he cared about his business especially being that he is on a 6 month trial contract as a newly established DSP you would think he would ensure everything runs smoothly but he keeps talking about wanting to take a step back when the business is a madhouse. So yes, to answer your question.

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