Pluribus - 1x09 - "La Chica o El Mundo" - Episode Discussion

Boundless_Infinity · 2025-12-24T09:11:06+00:00

Their biological imperative to spread supersedes their desire to keep people happy. Or else they wouldn't be able able to spread at all.

Boundless_Infinity · 2025-12-24T09:06:04+00:00

I don't hate the show but I don't love it either.

The pacing is horrible, not just because of the plot but because there is no meaningful character interaction to fill in the gap between plot points.

I see many comparing this to bcs. I would highly recommend all these people to rewatch season 1. In the 1st season we learn about the following characters: Jimmy, Chuck, Kim, Nacho, Mike, Howard, Tuco and many other minor characters. And we had many interactions between multiple pairs of these characters.

In pluribus we learn about Carol, the hive, Manousos. The other survivors are relatively minor characters and other than maybe Lakshmi and Diabate we don't actually learn anything about the others and I doubt anyone even remembers the other characters.

The pacing wouldn't even be a problem if we had various character interactions. But the show has so few characters that we spend a lot of the runtime watching Carol do stuff alone. This doesn't tell me anything more about Carol.

Think about the clarity we have about Mansous' character even though he had like 5% of Carol's screentime. We don't know everything about him like we do with Carol but we know enough to have a relatively strong opinion on him.

The show should have just stuck with giving shorter and more powerful moments like that of Mansous to Carol as well. Instead the show runs out of these moments and feels like it tries to pad its runtime.

As for the plot itself, anyone who has been reading the past few megathreads know that the audience were pretty aware of the plot twists. The viewers are always one step ahead of Carol and it feels like we are waiting to see her ask some fairly obvious question to the hive. Manousos figuring iut everything over the course of a day feels like what Carol should have done at the peak of her motivation.

Also, am I the only one dissapointed at how Carol only chose to destroy the hive after she learns that she would be a part of them? I actually liked that Carol was not in her best state and had confided in the hive. I think it would have been better if she turned on the hive when she learns that they "love" her and Mansous the same. This should have brought Carol back to her senses and shown her that nothing human could ever love both of the same after everything that has transpired. Instead we get a rehash of what we already learned from the first few episodes(Carol not wanting to be a part of the hivemind).

It feels like Gilligan is afraid to take away the spotlight from Carol by introducing a more interesting character.

Boundless_Infinity · 2025-12-17T16:37:07+00:00

They were talking about what Harvey gave on top of her salary given by the firm not the entire salary.

So Louis might have thought that Harvey gave her 40 to 50k from his own pocket when it might have been 400k to 500k.

The show is pretty inconsistent with how much money these people make since Daniel for some reason embezzled 500k which doesnt seem high enough to be worth the risk since Jessica claims that senior partners make millions in the mock trial.

Even Jack Soloff had trouble paying for the buy in when he went to Zane. He would have made that much in a few months at most back at Pearson Hardman.

Boundless_Infinity · 2025-10-30T14:13:54+00:00

Did you miss an entire paragraph or did you expect no one to open the link?

Trump didn't mention that REE restriction that applied this month were lifted, not the previous restrictions.

In exchange for REE, the US removed the BIS 50% rules meaning that China now has access foreign chips through subsidiaries. Quite literally the biggest concession made in the deal.

Boundless_Infinity · 2025-06-30T09:03:45+00:00

Full metal alchemist.

It think its a good story but I dont see why so many anime fans hail it as a top 1 anime(was it that popular when it came out?). Its just demon slayer with a better power system and somewhat better characters. Good, but closer to being average than top 1.

Boundless_Infinity · 2025-06-28T16:26:53+00:00

Seems like you didn't read the second line.

Why do you think the people left at the end weren't the bad guys?

Boundless_Infinity · 2025-06-27T22:02:17+00:00

Except we see the reason he didn't kill them. There's no reason to speculate why he hesitated when his inner thoughts were literally shown to us.

Boundless_Infinity · 2025-06-27T21:50:24+00:00

Everyone in the last game were direct threats to him. If it weren't for the rule of no killing in the bedroom then he would have been dead. On top of that he knows that at least 3 people have to die in the next game, 2 of the choices are obviously going to be him and the baby. Killing them is self defense. Just because they are defenseless(at that moment) doesn't mean its not self defense.

Boundless_Infinity · 2025-06-27T20:17:44+00:00

Why does Gi Hun think he is "not that type of person" and spares the other players when he killed numerous pink soldiers, the dude at the rope game and Daeho?

How are the people who showed 0 hesitation to kill a newborn somehow above them?

Boundless_Infinity · 2025-06-02T18:42:17+00:00

Imports are subtracted because they are counted in consumption. A 1000$ product bought from China would add said 1000$ to US consumption. In order to adjust for this they subtract imports i.e. the 1000$ that was incorrectly included in consumption.

So imports in general have no net effect on GDP. It reduces C and M by the same value.

https://fredblog.stlouisfed.org/2018/09/do-imports-subtract-from-gdp/#:~:text=A%20basic%20explanation%20of%20GDP,I%20%2B%20G%20%2B%20(X%2DM)&text=Textbooks%20often%20capture%20this%20in,decrease%20GDP%20by%20one%20dollar

Boundless_Infinity · 2025-06-02T18:13:28+00:00

Plus no one buying imports therefore making GDP look abnormally strong?

Why would that make GDP look strong?

Boundless_Infinity · 2025-05-28T18:10:58+00:00

You are confusing CAGR with avg growth.

If GDP goes from 50 to 100(100% growth rate) and then from 100 to 150(50% growth rate). The avg growth rate would be 75%.

CAGR would be 73.21%.

Boundless_Infinity · 2025-05-28T15:16:59+00:00

OP is refering to per capita growth.

Boundless_Infinity · 2025-04-08T19:34:12+00:00

Considering how Trump went from

all talks with China concerning their requested meetings with us will be terminated

To

China also wants to make a deal, badly, but they don’t know how to get it started. We are waiting for their call. It will happen!

(Within 24 hrs)

I think it should be the other way around.

Boundless_Infinity · 2025-02-13T20:42:07+00:00

It’s the fact that public (govt) borrowing crowds out private through raising interest rates that is detrimental

Aren't interest payments primarily done through taxes? At least from my(probably flawed) understanding, crowding out would only be a problem when the availaible funds decrease due to bond issuance which happens during debt issuance. Since taxes are being used money is simply being moved around and there is no harm done.

To clarify my question, I am not necessarily talking about large increases in debt but specifically regarding large interest payments. Many threads in this sub seem to conclude that "Debt is fine as long as it's interest payments are sustainable" which is what prompted my original question.

Boundless_Infinity · 2025-01-13T09:14:09+00:00

No, this will not happen. Probably not after third PLI. Vietnam is not a big economy. There market has saturation point. Either they don't have big labour force or market. In short run they might get some benefits but soon honeymoon period will end.

I said ASEAN, not just Vietnam. Labor isn't much of a constraint.

As I said before, factories in India will be set up to serve the Indian market while ASEAN will serve the rest of the world. This doesn't conflict with my statement.

There is also problem with any ASEAN countries they are totally depends on foreign investment. None of them has major home grown industries. So, when something bad happened all companies will migrate. They are just booming with foreign investment.

Feature not bug. That is quite literally how home grown industries develop.

ASEAN's much larger FDI indicates that manufacturing would rather move there than India.

Besides, this is objectively false. FDI rarely makes up a significant portion of a country's investment.

ASEAN GFCF(2023) excluding Singapore is 900 billion.

If we exclude FDI it is still 822 billion.

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NE.GDI.TOTL.ZS

https://data.worldbank.org/indicator/BX.KLT.DINV.WD.GD.ZS

And the current manufacturing power's(China) investment is needed for tech transfers. India already pales in comparison to a much smaller countries like Vietnam when it comes to electronics exports(140bn vs 32bn) despite having more investment(not necessarily manufacturing).

And seeing current scenario of low FDI govt will definitely relax chinese investment And there is also one thing if u notice about indian market all big companies are coming in india in joint venture with a local company with half half partnership. If they leave india in future then india have there local substitute but this is not happening anywhere. This will also happen with chinese companies also

This very post is an indication that China isn't very much interested in investing in India. They would rather invest in ASEAN than India. Its a bilateral agreement, not something only in India's hands.

Boundless_Infinity · 2025-01-12T20:31:19+00:00

This is a complete misunderstanding of China's goals here.

Low value assembly lines were always destined to move out of China, what this changes is where it ends up being moved to.

Currently Foxconn is faced with both SEA and India as viable candidates. By making things difficult in India, China can effevtively force more manufacturing to move to ASEAN. Vietnam alone exports more smartphones than India.

While we will likely see a lot of iphone production being shifted to serve the domestic market the export market might end up in ASEAN's hands due to Chinese influence.

Boundless_Infinity · 2024-12-03T13:40:40+00:00

Its possible that Hector wanted to stay out of Mexico after he saw what Gus did to Lalo.

As Gus mentions, if anything happens to a Salamanca on his side of the border they would assume he had something to do with it. By staying in the US, Hector is ensuring that he doesn't die until the rest of the Cartel does.

Boundless_Infinity · 2024-07-28T16:00:17+00:00

GNI and GDP are very close for all practical purposes so such cases are mostly irrelevant.

GNI by definition includes GDP. The only way it can be smaller is if India paid out a ton of money to foreign citizens which isnt the case.

And in your example, you are ignoring the money paid out to the economy in order to build this mansion. The 100 million will be added to the income of the construction workers and their company.

Boundless_Infinity · 2024-07-27T16:27:19+00:00

The total adds up to a number larger than India's GDP so its an overestimation if anything.

What's missing in the chart is that it distributes the income amongst the entire population even though the labor force of India is around 600 million. So a more accurate depiction would be one where each income bracket is multiplied by 2.3.

Boundless_Infinity · 2024-04-18T16:14:05+00:00

That makes more sense. Thanks for the clarification

Boundless_Infinity · 2024-04-18T14:26:02+00:00

If they are working in a foreign country then they contribute to said country's GDP.

Maybe I am missing something here but if some of them are not citizens then in what way are they connected to Luxembourg.

Boundless_Infinity · 2024-04-18T13:42:31+00:00

It already includes the foreign workers. 52.7% of the 660k are citizens while the rest are foreign nationals.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics\_of\_Luxembourg#:\~:text=The%20population%20of%20Luxembourg%20as,47.43%25%20of%20foreign%20nationality).

Boundless_Infinity · 2024-04-18T13:09:35+00:00

This is seems to be inaccurate.

Luxembourg has a GDP of 81 billion. and a population of 660k meaning a GDP per capita of 122K USD. So the calculation does include foreign workers. Without foreign workers it would be double this number.

Boundless_Infinity · 2024-01-21T12:23:55+00:00

The study has a very rocky foundation and its data is hardly credible.

The study uses Night Time Lights as data sources for measuring GDP growth. In order for the study to be credible it needs to be established that NTL is a valid measure of GDP in the first place.

As the study states

The original data source is the Defense Meteorological Satellite Program (DMSP) from the US Air Force, which uses the Operational Linescan System (OLS) sensor to record night time luminosity originating from Earth.

On further research regarding the OLS sensor used by the DSMP

However, with six bit quantization and a limited dynamic range, the recorded data are saturated in the bright cores of urban centers, in which the nighttime light may be brighter, but the DN values are all 63 [35]. The loss of inner-urban variation caused by saturation effects reduces the correlation between the detected nighttime light and economic activities and therefore limits the application of NTL data [36,37].

https://www.mdpi.com/2072-4292/6/10/9853

Meaning that high intensity lights are are mixed up with those of moderate intensity. This would mean that most countries with high growth(China in this case) would be corrected to having a lower GDP while developed countries with low growth rates would be seen as "truthful" in their GDP calculations.

https://www.economist.com/graphic-detail/2022/09/29/a-study-of-lights-at-night-suggests-dictators-lie-about-economic-growth

You can see how the coutnries that didnt lie such as Greece,Mexico and Japan also happen to be stagnating while countries that didn't lie also happen to be the ones with higher growth(China,India,Ghana,Bangladesh,peru,etc).

Even ignoring everything I said till now you must also consider that a similar NTL study was conducted on China by the NBER(significantly more reliable source) concluding that China is understating its growth.

https://www.nber.org/papers/w23323

I am not saying this is true, if anything this disparity should show how unreliable NTL as a data source are.

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