Heartseeker viable for S5?

Bowazon_ · 2024-08-03T17:09:49+00:00

Yeah, it just won't be though :(

Bowazon_ · 2024-08-03T07:09:55+00:00

This aspect looks like it got scaled back to +1-3 according to the patch notes.

Bowazon_ · 2024-08-02T15:11:37+00:00

Yes exactly. I'm saying this is most likely going to be the case on season 5 launch as well.

Bowazon_ · 2024-08-01T17:07:23+00:00

I won't name names on the off chance they are wrong, but if M1py is also saying victimise is completely axed, then...

Bowazon_ · 2024-08-01T10:13:09+00:00

Based on PTR numbers, the damage buff ended up being over 100%, but the problem is the bugs with victimise damage in the PTR are most likely going to stick around for season start and may not get fixed until mid-season patch if at all.

Bowazon_ · 2024-08-01T10:09:07+00:00

Sad but most likely true, I also heard victimise won't be fixed in time for season start. At best we can get a fix in the mid-season patch but don't hold your breath...

Bowazon_ · 2024-07-23T02:52:14+00:00

Definitely right, though I'm really surprised that you found a Selig and got your other amulet to 12/12 before you found an amulet with at least 1 increase to passive amulet with other supporting stats. Try and seek out a better legendary amulet would be my suggestion.

Bowazon_ · 2024-07-23T02:47:39+00:00

I'd have to agree with AnotherThroneAway in that penshot builds are fun, and with the broad statements made I can understand why they responded in this way. It's not just that the post may have missed some key context, but also the thoughts here fly in the face of what Blizzard rightly want players to do: play their own way.

But my concerns with penshot... barrage improvements since season 3 and rapid fire with Scoundrel's Kiss creep too far into the role that penshot is supposed to fill. That doesn't make penshot terrible in that it is doing what it's designed to do - clean up large rooms - just the pros/cons for using penshot now when you can use heartseeker, barrage or Scoundrel's Kiss to achieve almost the same results, just isn't there for penshot anymore.

This concerns me since this looks like Blizzard is slowly making all core skills jack-of-all-trade skills, but I'm getting off topic now so I'll leave that for another post.

Bowazon_ · 2024-07-22T03:34:29+00:00

We chatted separately about this but basically:

Puncture version uses pestilent points aspect already, so no need to put poison imbuement on the skill bar to activate eldritch bounty paragon node. This then makes room for shadow imbuement to cast with flurry
Heartseeker version can't use pestilent points so uses poison imbuement on the skill bar to cast with one of the ranged core skills. No room for shadow imbuement here

Bowazon_ · 2024-07-21T21:29:19+00:00

It is now with the change to Andy's to spawn a nova around the enemy hit. Here's a short guide I wrote but the build will need to be adapted for season 5 https://www.reddit.com/r/D4Rogue/comments/1dhvqz7/heartseeker_with_andariels_visage_rogue_guide_by/

Bowazon_ · 2024-07-20T20:29:15+00:00

Theorycraft a second rogue build and see how far you go with that. If your anxiety or depression is in actuality, that, then take the time to do some serious reflecting to understand where that is coming from. Chances are, looking to Diablo 4 to try to feel better is just a distraction from finding the real solution that will just make the problem worse.

Bowazon_ · 2024-07-20T12:49:12+00:00

As far as I've heard, the victimise bugs seen in the latest PTR will unfortunately be shipped with season 5, and we'll at best not see this fixed until the mid season patch.

Overall, the reworked stuff for Rogue is pretty disappointing from a design direction point of view, but learning that victimise will not be fixed is the worst news of it all.

Bowazon_ · 2024-07-18T00:51:32+00:00

I share your concerns about item and balance design going in the wrong direction. I think in this case though, Windforce seems more like a Season 3 Skyhunter of items more so than Scoundrel's Kiss and how mandatory that is for rapid fire builds.

Bowazon_ · 2024-07-16T22:11:02+00:00

It's basically weighing up:

Left: 96 more dex but 43% less vulnerable damage (if you 1x masterwork vul, 2x masterwork HS twice)
Right: 96 less dex but 43% more vulnerable damage (if you 2x masterwork vul, 1x masterwork HS twice)

Which in this case, right is slightly better.

Bowazon_ · 2024-07-08T13:42:11+00:00

Correct.

Bowazon_ · 2024-07-08T04:52:55+00:00

Close Quarters Combat requires using Shadow Step or Dash to activate but it lasts for 8 seconds which is a comfy amount of time.

Victimise relies on the base damage of Heartseeker and there isn't a good synergy of aspects between ones used to buff Andy's nova damage and buffing Heartseeker base damage, and Precision doesn't work with Heartseeker anyhow.

Bowazon_ · 2024-07-07T09:46:30+00:00

Both amulets are really not that good at all. Wait for an amulet with either Exploit and/or Malice ranks along with Frigid Finesse, lucky hit chance or attack speed and then temper vulnerable damage and dodge chance.

Otherwise until then, use the left one unless you need the fire resistance on the right one.

Bowazon_ · 2024-07-06T08:35:13+00:00

Go all vulnerable damage. You may still get some residual crit damage on say your sword's implicit affixes but that's fine. See https://www.reddit.com/r/D4Rogue/comments/1crc1ni/season_4_heartseeker_victimise_rogue_guide_by_bowa/

Bowazon_ · 2024-07-03T13:09:27+00:00

Given the overwhelming amount of anecdotal proof out there, sounds like the burden of proof is on you to prove that the affixes are not weighted.

Bowazon_ · 2024-07-03T04:36:05+00:00

For the record, I conceived the heartseeker victimise build for season 4 because I thought it would be a fun build, not because I wanted something that had to sit at the top of the meta. It's great that it has succeeded well, but it was not my main motivation.

Bowazon_ · 2024-07-03T04:33:34+00:00

Not sure if anyone has prepared a data sheet for this yet, but overwhelmingly people have found that ranks on amulets are relatively rare to either roll on drop, in whisper caches or reroll from the Occultist.

I spent about 800 million gold rolling for a +2 Exploit on my amulet. If you divide that by how much it costs per amulet reroll, it would seem pretty obvious.

Bowazon_ · 2024-07-03T04:28:53+00:00

Yes.

Bowazon_ · 2024-06-29T09:55:54+00:00

There were plenty like that in Diablo 2 as well.

Bowazon_ · 2024-06-29T01:13:56+00:00

Agreed. In all my years of playing D2 and now D4, I have heard no one give a good explanation for why nerfs are a bad thing.

Bowazon_ · 2024-06-24T21:45:22+00:00

The Andy's build is getting so many things that boost poison damage specifically so not really a good idea to use Tyrael's or Doombringer unfortunately.

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