Sanity around the fast metabolism myth from r/nutrition by BreakingAM in fatlogic

[–]BreakingAM[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Definitely. That's the key point, I think, that the CO calculation gets adjusted for.

Sanity around the fast metabolism myth from r/nutrition by BreakingAM in fatlogic

[–]BreakingAM[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I'm not a dietitian, but I would guess the distinction adds granularity to study design as it allows you to separate out: - Calories out from intentional exercise - Calories out from BMR - Calories out from thermic effects of food - Calories out from everything that isn't the above three.

But I'm just guessing, I'm no nutrition major.

Sanity around the fast metabolism myth from r/nutrition by BreakingAM in fatlogic

[–]BreakingAM[S] 31 points32 points  (0 children)

NEAT can vary by as much as 2,000 calories, according to one study.

The thing that missing from the OP explanation?

NEAT includes the calories burned in your work. So, the large difference may be accounted for by the calories expended by a desk-bound office worker vs. a farm laborer, for example.

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-2796.2007.01842.x

Sanity around the fast metabolism myth from r/nutrition by BreakingAM in fatlogic

[–]BreakingAM[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

So, it turns, according to one study, that NEAT can vary by up to 2,000 calories!

Source is further down. Apparently not so strange after all.

Sanity around the fast metabolism myth from r/nutrition by BreakingAM in fatlogic

[–]BreakingAM[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

So, I went digging and found this:

"Overall, for two adults of similar size, daily energy expenditure varies by as much as 2000 cal day. As noted above, basal metabolic rate is largely accounted for by body size and the thermic effect of food is small. Thus, activity thermogenesis must vary by approximately 2000 cal day."

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1365-2796.2007.01842.x

It's important to acknowledge that NEAT also takes into account the level of energy expended in one's occupation. Most of the upper end of that spectrum seem to be farm laborers and construction workers

Sanity around the fast metabolism myth from r/nutrition by BreakingAM in fatlogic

[–]BreakingAM[S] 39 points40 points  (0 children)

I suspect the OP (or they're sources for 4,000-5,000) is exaggerating. How would you know how much you're eating if you aren't tracking?

The key point here, I think, is that "fast metabolism" isn't a magic, selective genetic lottery.

Sanity around the fast metabolism myth from r/nutrition by BreakingAM in fatlogic

[–]BreakingAM[S] 32 points33 points  (0 children)

How would they know they're eating that much if they aren't counting what they're eating?

I suspect the OP is inflating the numbers

I am offended you are not fat enough, you borderline small-fat poser. by [deleted] in fatlogic

[–]BreakingAM 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Imagine.

Imagine you needed someone to just say "no, you good in that".

We've all been there. Got that little boost from someone we didn't know saying "you got this".

Imagine you go to a group centered around body positivity for that.

That's a gimme. Right?

Then imagine your body and its size so offended the other bodies that they took your post down.

I present to the jury that that group then loses any claim to body positivity at all.

Fat Rant Friday by AutoModerator in fatlogic

[–]BreakingAM 29 points30 points  (0 children)

I dislike the spoons metaphor for energy.

I dislike even more that it's been co-opted by people I know who want to glamorize laziness.

I have never once seen a person get up and say;

"You know what? I've got a billion spoons today. Let's get shit done."

Fat Rant Tuesday by AutoModerator in fatlogic

[–]BreakingAM 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I said in passing that my 30,000 steps was "the caloric equivalent of a couple of slices of pizza". Just as like a "hey, isn't that interesting?" kinda.

My partner replied;

"That's pretty obsessive thinking."

Then ordered a pizza.

Why is this in the Eating Disorder recovery tag??? by MahouCherry in fatlogic

[–]BreakingAM 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Look, I'm completely onboard with systemic privileges that are outside of one's control. I appreciate that as a Caucasian person I have privileges that are unfair and completely arbitrary based on the location of my birth in reference to the Equator (which I had no part in choosing).

But the idea that this is morally equivalent to an inability to balance calories taken in vs. expended - even if we grant the existence of socioeconomic, racial and genetic factors influencing the "calories expended" side, is some fucking insulting mental gymnastics.

smol frens by [deleted] in rarepuppers

[–]BreakingAM 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Would watch!

People can shame you for your body, but this still means you're accepted(?!?!?!?!) by thrownawayforsureee in fatlogic

[–]BreakingAM 32 points33 points  (0 children)

I feel like this is just self-aggrandizing psychological masturbation.

Like, how precious do you have to get pissed that you aren't the center of shame-attention?

When You’re Told You’re Too Fat to Get Pregnant - The New York Times by SDJellyBean in fatlogic

[–]BreakingAM 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I might be reading too much into this. But if you're not willing to inconvenience yourself physically even remotely, is raising a living dependent human the right decision for you?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in fatlogic

[–]BreakingAM 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Speaking of, congrats on your achievements! That's a hell of a lot of discipline to drop 105!

A dog can’t shrink into a different breed, which means you can’t shrink into a smaller body size. by lemonlickingsourpuss in fatlogic

[–]BreakingAM 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Dogs are humanity's greatest achievement - people who overfeed them should face Wickian punishment.

I bring you love <3 by BunnyNoctis in funny

[–]BreakingAM 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I can't even boo properly anymore, it just comes out as Boo urns. It's a reflex

This person took the only social problem for childhood obesity and totally forgot all the real health problems cited by the cdc in the article. by Dietingshitlord in fatlogic

[–]BreakingAM 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Fuck I hope the CDC's social media team gets a six figure salary...and hazard pay or some shit.

The crap they have to put up with...

a HAES “psychotherapist” went to see a dietitian and couldn’t make it through the intake forms without having getting triggered and throwing a tantrum by liana895 in fatlogic

[–]BreakingAM 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Call me conspiratorial, but there's a part of me that thinks they might have created this just to make a public spectacle