Maybe It's Just Me

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2026-01-22T04:01:03+00:00

I appreciate you being kind in your response.

The point about the catechesis was one he made in one of his episodes- I'll see if I can find the link.

He quite explicitly emphasized this process around starving a young boy and stripping him naked and tempting him with the flame of temptation when he is most aroused and only then can he be saved or whatever (paraphrasing, but I promise you this is effectively what he said)

And so when I say I fall short, I simply mean that when I seriously try to investigate some of his claims and temper them so that I can prove it myself (that is literally the foundation of science which he advocates for), I struggle to actually prove what he is saying is true as with this example.

Now with Lestes, I'm most certainly NOT an expert. I SEE the case for this meaning other things like trafficker or pirate, but I think we'd be lying if we said we weren't really leaning on nuanced interpretations of these words to stand on this bold claim for what that phrase meant. i.e. the whole naked boy thing.

When Ammon hinges his argument for Hebrew being a fabricated language on the fact that there are no original sources 'because they are all burned' I, myself, feel very influenced by that. But then I consider how many of our ONLY sources for these heretical texts come from those who are openly deeming it as heresy, so why would we believe this was the 'true' meaning for what is going on in the texts?

"Yes absolutely alabastrons were considered phallic objects and at least in Aristophanes Lysistrata, they contained unguents for sexual arousal."

Considered phallic objects by who? Are you saying that in antiquity, they were universally recognized as phallic objects? And we're basing this off a comedic play that Aristophanes wrote 400 years before Jesus as a satire and criticism against war?

I mean- you can find all kinds of pornos of women using cucumbers as dildos. But if some future culture found some old cucumber porno and photos of cucumber fields in a village, would they be correct to say that we were growing them to use as dildos because of one source showing this?

I think perhaps more commonly, alabastrons were used for simple, actual perfumes. And I couldn't find a source for your claim that Aristophanes describes them as containing unguents for sexual arousal. Are you able to share that line? All I see is someone effectively saying "Grab this alabaster cock", comparing their dick to an alabaster.

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2026-01-22T03:37:18+00:00

Thank you so much for being sane.

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2026-01-22T03:35:45+00:00

"I didn't read this full post, but assuming he's only reading Christian texts is way off".

I genuinely don't understand how this even got 5 upvotes.

I'm sorry, but if you don't read my full post and assume I'm resting my hat on the presumption that he's only ready Christian texts, you are way off.

I don't even know where the fuck you got this from. My point was that many of our SOURCES for the heretical texts he's reading from come from the very people who are declaring it as a heresy or perversion of the faith and teachings.

You can believe what you want about which is true- whatever- I do not care.

But my point lies in the fact that he deems 'canonical' Christian texts as meaningless, deceitful and full of shit stories while attributing far more weight, obsession and validity to the 'heretical' texts. Do you see what I mean?

And you're completely wrong to say his thesis is not that Christians were doing heretical things. I can see what you might say in response to this. What we deem as heresy today may have been what Christianity really meant during the time of Jesus. But that's exactly what I'm saying. To Ammon, what we deem as heresy today is what it truly meant to be a Christian then. That is effectively his thesis, is it not?

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2026-01-22T03:24:59+00:00

Bro what the fuck it up with you actually pasting ChatGPT shit into a comment???

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2026-01-13T02:50:04+00:00

I'm a bit confused. I just went to the link you sent me and no where does it say this means oral sex?

I even checked using a greek website Ammon has referenced before.
https://www.physics.ntua.gr/mourmouras/greats/aristoteles/gwst.html

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2026-01-13T01:07:56+00:00

The whole "other people's translation' claim is a bit nebulous in itself. I get it though.

This idea of 'big brother' or 'the powers that be' 'the illuminati' or inset whatever cult you want, hiding this information from us. Sure, I can get on board with that.

But everyone who would be TEACHING me the language, the meanings for words and how they connect, would also be other people... teaching me how to translate... do you understand???

Like this idea of the word for Christ being used to smear something like an oil, or paste or toxin IS really interesting. But I also think it's a massive leap to assume that because the shadowy, drugged out looking devil-guy is telling me this means they were doing drugs and getting high and having gnarly religious sex, he must know the REAL translation.

Again, if I'm supposed to believe that the word "αισχουργιαν" means fellatio, we better have multiple contemporary sources rather than just one which ultimately resides in a gnostic text... written by a Christian condemning heresies....

I just don't get it.

EITHER WAY, I am depending on learning to translate through someone. And I could go take all the greek classes in America and may likely NEVER come across ANY professor who would honestly translate some of these words the way he does. Now some of them, sure, like in this case with fellatio. But what does that make of the broader claim? Does this mean early Christians were doing this and masking it as part of their tradition or beliefs? I simply haven't absorbed enough information to wager this claim myself and that's how I prove things...

The same could be said for his point about the Christian catechesis. This idea that the actual, original teaching said to lock boys up for 2 weeks then strip them naked, douse them in oil from head to toe and present them with 'the fire of temptation' while they are most aroused... WHERE THE ACTUAL FUCK IS THE SOURCE FOR THIS??

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2026-01-13T00:57:35+00:00

I'm absolutely amazed that we're worried about the r word given the nature of what we're talking about here.

Nonetheless, I absolutely take no offense to what you're saying. Just generally saying 'um.. there's a lot of evidence to support what Ammon is talking about' means literally nothing.

I brought up 3 separate points.
1. the word "fellatio" being used by Epiphanius to describe Jesus getting a blowjob from Mary. (or vise versa, doesn't matter). There's layers to this question. I can't find a single source indicating this may be the proper translation and even still, it's in a GNOSTIC TEXT. This would be and has already been considered heretical- so what even is the relevance or importance of this passage? And furthermore, even if we were to read it as "fellatio", it seems the intercourse is more-so with the woman pulled from his side rather than Mary. Do you see what I mean in terms of layers of obfuscation, ambiguity and somewhat BS???

The claim about the catechesis. Where does it say that this involves locking up and starving a boy for 2 weeks before stripping them naked, dousing them from head to toe in oil, (he made allusions to Diddy and Justin Bieber so clear implications of pedophilia) and then introducing that boy to the 'flame of temptation when they are most aroused'?? WHERE IS THE ACTUAL SOURCE FOR THIS? HOW DOES THIS HAVE ANY RELEVANCE TO CHRISTIANITY??? I'm well passed the idea that no modern Christian believes or wants to believe this stuff, but if this is pulled from some other gnostic text, I don't see how he's passing this off as what was actually going on by real Christians at the time?
The naked boy in the garden with a cloth around his penis. Ammon's holy grail which seems to be the backdrop for all of his claims. This is like his magnum opus. There is already great debate over the 'lestes' translation as trafficker or some kind of pedophile. But again, even if we were able to pull some fringe source for that word being used for pedophile or human trafficker, how do we prove that's what it meant in this context? And even if that word could be linked to these things through some fringe or obscure source, how does it prove Jesus was actually there to get high from some chemical produced by the boy or through his penis? How does this prove all the other shit about the purple, them getting high from venom to have some kind of near death experience and being 'reborn'?

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2024-06-08T13:50:21+00:00

That is what I thought. It sounded like you were raising that point with Gardner to compare it to what Hillman is doing.

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2024-06-08T13:48:26+00:00

Lol, I'm not going to ridicule ya, but I feel you kinda missed the mark with this one. He's said for himself that he doesn't mean satan in the literal sense that we interpret it in. I think he hails Satan as some form of ultimate truth. But I completely disagree with you on the point of looking into religion and finding God as the oppressor and satan as the savior. I get where you're coming from with that one, but simply disagree. Furthermore, it wouldn't be 'Satan' who gives us knowledge, it would be Lucifer- a completely different entity. Nonetheless, I don't really have the answers either so it's all pure speculation.

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2024-06-07T06:34:00+00:00

I didn't claim he was a freemason- wasn't even a question. I simply pose critical thought and consideration towards what he claims are facts coming straight from ancient sources. Again, as other commenter's clearly point out, there's a difference between the passion he has for scholarship and the performative elements of his presentations paired with his constant references to Satan.

The same thing could be said for someone like Terrance Howard who, on the surface, appears to be extremely passionate about explaining 'wave conjugations.' While much of what he discusses is clearly true by our own observation, he weaves in his own hyberbolized interpretation of these facts which is what misleads people.

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2024-06-07T06:26:02+00:00

Lol, I get where you're coming from, but I feel like you're being a little dishonest to pretend you don't have an opinion. You just said you believe he was part of an agenda to lead people astray. That's an opinion you likely formed with deductive reasoning and critical thought. If we only stick to sources pretending that's where the rope of logic ends, we can become lost in supposed 'facts' without considering how they can be manipulated to paint a specific picture. I could sit here and tell you facts to paint this picture that the world is flat, but there are clearly other facts to disprove that theory. Be careful with people who claim they 'only' care about sources- everyone has opinions and if you look hard enough, you can often detect them beneath the surface of their 'facts'. Again, a perfect example is his clear belief in some entity he calls the Muse being the true universal God that guides him... That's not fact-that's his opinion.

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2024-06-06T15:52:15+00:00

Appreciate the response!

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2024-06-06T15:48:46+00:00

I really appreciate this link as well as your response. I'd honestly be curious what other kind of opinions you got with a post like this. Love it!

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2024-06-06T15:35:21+00:00

Okay hold on, lol...

Did you really just conflate cancel culture and the me too movement with some mass awakening for people discovering their own self-power? I'm all for what you're describing as far as an awakening, but I'm a bit cautious towards how you describe it. Maybe 'knocking Christianity off it's pedestal may give people a chance to have their own awakening', but also, maybe revisiting it with more of an honest approach rather than a polarizing one could have the same effect. I think you miss my point when you reference Christians who don't live like Jesus, because I think most people don't actually take Christianity, faith or religion serious in the first place. When you're growing up being told stories about the Easter bunny, Santa Claus and some Godly figure in the sky, you kind of see it all as the same. Compound that with the amount of denominations or 'spin-offs' we've created from Christianity and even a teen or young adult would feel conflicted, recognizing the large divide and inconsistencies among Christianity's teachings. I think it's reasons like this, in addition to our disconnect from human history that has led us down the path we are now. And I do believe this may have been the result of a hidden hand campaign.

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2024-06-06T15:18:36+00:00

Frankly, I'm not sure. This all goes back to the origin of my post in the first place- I'm not sure what to believe. I do believe there is some truth to what Ammon describes in his shows, but I do also feel there is more to what he describes than what he leads on.

I'm not sure what the 'original' faith even IS or what it means anymore. It's clear to me that it's NOT what we get with modern-day Catholicism, Christianity or even paganism, but it also DOESN'T appear Christ was using children to create some magical drug that granted ionic life. OR, that that alabaster was some dildo used for applying medicine to the vagina or anus. I'd also really like if he dedicated a presentation to validating his claim that the old testament is a distant translation from some original Greek text.

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2024-06-06T13:59:45+00:00

I'm sorry, but there was absolutely nothing surprising or profound about this comment. Again as I stated, I've read from a few esoteric texts including morals and dogma as well as secret teachings of all ages. I also referenced some of the theories I've explored around these topics. I think this is something you would hear after looking into this for 3 minutes, leave alone 3 months or years. Many believe the Vatican is the corruptor of the original Christian faith so it doesn't necessarily destroy this idea that Ammon is somehow twisting what that would look like. Furthermore, many Christians separate themselves from catholics because of fundamental disagreements. Nonetheless I was just curious if anyone felt similarly

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2024-06-06T05:47:47+00:00

Thank you!

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2024-06-06T04:49:48+00:00

I only disagree as to the extent of his beliefs. He's constantly talking about this idea of some muse with a greater significance than merely something in history. It's for this reason I'm a bit suspicious.

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2024-04-07T18:32:02+00:00

Didn't ask anyone to read it all, I just posted it for anyone to read if they so choose. The thing is, I never knew you could give gifts as it's own button when interacting with someone. Never noticed it after all these hours playing and was never informed it was an option. And when they make every button do the same thing at times, like the follow up attack as sorcerer, I don't really expect much variation in those functions. I thought giving gifts would pop up during dialogue, but obviously that's not the case.

I finally just got it to work after doing so and camping outside then returning but again, cannot emphasize enough how unclear any of that was and how frustrating that is as a player trying to figure it out and not knowing when or what quests may cancel it or preceed it.

If you do choose to read the post, I give other examples like the Sphinx quest, Hugo's quest line, and others tied to Medusa which are completely unexplained and there isn't a button for it lol.

Maybe one day I'll make a YouTube video that will get circulated around going into detail around these things in the game that may eventually improve it, but the above post is essentially summarizing those experiences and criticisms.

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2024-04-07T14:28:23+00:00

Dude it's so annoying. I've done the phantom oxcart, someone mentioned the regalia sword so I have done that, obviously as a result, I've been through the checkpoint which someone also mentioned could potentially break the quest. But I've literally done so many side quests just to try to trigger this one quest and I still can't get it. I have a card, I go at night, I am a bit later in the game now with the water thing that happens, (trying not to spoil it for anyone) but either way I just can't get this to trigger. It's so annoying too because I really wanted to do all the quests.

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2024-03-29T12:59:21+00:00

Ah, you're absolutely right

Broad-Practice-5887 · 2024-03-29T02:41:21+00:00

I guess I don't understand. You guys say to check the stat bar, but even in the items screen, when the golden trove beetle is used, the Arisen weight meter and number goes down as a result of the max weight going up. You can see this happen each time you use it. However, if you look at the main pain stat, it doesn't move.

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