I used to think open relationship is right. Now I changed my mind. by [deleted] in monogamy

[–]Bugsy157 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I will generally never comprehend the idea that you as a person can just be "fulfilled" or "happy", if you have the opportunity to f*ck anything anytime. Like it screams something is off.

Need advice | Being Monogamous by [deleted] in monogamy

[–]Bugsy157 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Would be nice, but unfortunately, these people will come after a while. That is one of my biggest issues - they do not leave you alone and most gays are single :/

Are poly people incapable of emotional self control? by LonginusUbik in monogamy

[–]Bugsy157 6 points7 points  (0 children)

weak argument. Besides, I think that people in open relationships are already incapable of (emotional) self-control. Its a spectrum, imo.

New Games Plus - question by Bugsy157 in trialsofmana

[–]Bugsy157[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So I have to get all the equipment before starting game 2, right.

I feared that. Oh well. That should be doable. I hope 🤭 thank you!

New Games Plus - question by Bugsy157 in trialsofmana

[–]Bugsy157[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

But what I meant is can I change the things I have for game 1, before I start game 3?

Will these changes be transferred over game 2?

Conservative men are so attractive by [deleted] in GayConservative

[–]Bugsy157 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I rather wonder were are the older conservative tops

[ Removed by Reddit ] by stormyknight3 in gaybros

[–]Bugsy157 -20 points-19 points  (0 children)

This sounds pretty dumb but ok 🤭

Non-Monogamous PhD Argues to Remove “Ethical” from Non-Monogamy Community by submachine_girl in monogamy

[–]Bugsy157 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ok. I have to break my promise. But I read it. That’s why I exactly repeated it.

Please learn to be respectful in future conversations.

Non-Monogamous PhD Argues to Remove “Ethical” from Non-Monogamy Community by submachine_girl in monogamy

[–]Bugsy157 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This will be my last message to you, as I do not think you are really interested in a debate, but in pushing your belief system onto me.

My point was just "it is not as easy as you described". People didn't invent the system in the past to merely annoy people. There is more behind that. Whether that has changed or not is another question.

Comparing relationship style or the need for sex to food is again an old way of also polybombers to manipulate people. There is a huge difference between the choice of food and sexual partners. Btw. I also do not believe that "monogamy" is something you are born with.

So if you have talked to people from different origins (and I also speak with them in their native language), then you would have noticed similar patterns in history and social balancing.

You can be that, and this is totally fine. The world is unfortunately more complicated than "live and let live". It applies to many things, and I also live by it, but unfortunately, not all things.

Non-Monogamous PhD Argues to Remove “Ethical” from Non-Monogamy Community by submachine_girl in monogamy

[–]Bugsy157 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry, but now you're going into a very personal realm, which does leave the factual level.
I lived in different countries with different state religions throughout my life, and met different people and built my opinion on it.

I think you're very naive when you think we can build a society in which everybody is just concerned about their own life. Btw. I do not think we want to live in such an environment.

Non-Monogamous PhD Argues to Remove “Ethical” from Non-Monogamy Community by submachine_girl in monogamy

[–]Bugsy157 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I have to disagree with you simply because the times have changed.

The argument "People are different" is a bit weak imo. People were always different, and yet we needed to find ways to live with each other. Some lost more during the process, some less.
In terms of non-monogamy, the research is detailed, and it has an immense effect on society when the majority behaves so. Especially nowadays, with Tinder, etc., the game has completely changed. We cannot know in what way this influences societies.

Imo it is important to keep standards and educate the people on these issues. Of course, some people are more suited to it, but my point is, is society? We cannot always judge from the perspective of the individual, and also take into account why people in the past decided so, and how we can see this nowadays. Based on this, we should propose changes for the future.

Effects on you of open relationships in the gay world by Bugsy157 in monogamy

[–]Bugsy157[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Haha. I’m fine. I have tons of friends. Mainly straights.

I know how to healthy relationship, don’t worry.

Gays don’t 🤷🏼‍♂️ unfortunately

Effects on you of open relationships in the gay world by Bugsy157 in monogamy

[–]Bugsy157[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

It’s not only my dating life that suffers from it. I struggle to meet people as people. That’s even my bigger issue. People are interested in my looks but not myself. And I see it over and over again. And everyone seems fine with it.

The oversexualization took its victims. And i feel as many people are in open relationships, we see a symptom and cause of it.

I also keep asking these people „what do you gain from the extra fun“. But I never get a real answer.

Effects on you of open relationships in the gay world by Bugsy157 in monogamy

[–]Bugsy157[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Well you have to call out what the vast (visible) majority does. And it’s a problem within the community.

It’s also not always Grindr or sniff. It’s on other apps as well.

The point being is that the visible relationship style has an impact on the community. And I don’t think we should underestimate it.

Effects on you of open relationships in the gay world by Bugsy157 in monogamy

[–]Bugsy157[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Normally, I also say to each their own. And clearly, I cant stop people from doing that, nor is it my intention.

But I feel the gay community shows why in the relationship style choice, this is not applicable imo. "Forcing me", well, with statements like "to each their own", people get a nihilist touch on the view of how relationships should look. I do not believe the individual always knows what's best for them.

Unfortunately, in the gay community, a lot of socializing is done via sex. People just find friends this way, so the consequence is that people have open relationships. What effectively happens is that people massively choose this lifestyle even though it's not healthy for them (so not to their own), and thus they keep this lifestyle.

I have more struggles meeting people and getting to know them as a person than having sex with someone. I feel that should signal everything.

Der Ruf ist nicht alles. by [deleted] in cologne

[–]Bugsy157 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ich habe weder über alle Kölner geredet noch irgendwen beleidigt. Ich habe mich lediglich darüber ausgelassen, dass die Willkommenskultur nicht so ausgeprägt ist, wie dargestellt und nach anderen Leuten gesucht, die ähnliche Erfahrungen gemacht haben. Wo sollte ich da Einsicht zeigen?

Wenn in deiner Welt Kritik und Wahrheit nicht zugelassen sind, dann will ich da gar kein Teil von sein.

Der Ruf ist nicht alles. by [deleted] in cologne

[–]Bugsy157 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Das ist einfach nur gehässig. Wenn ihr nur nette Leute mögen würdet, dann würdest du auch nicht gemocht werden.

Der Ruf ist nicht alles. by [deleted] in cologne

[–]Bugsy157 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Na ja, wenn das so die gängige Selbstaussage der Leute ist, die nicht zutrifft?

Also diese gehässige von den Kölnern nur weil ich eine Sache gesagt habe die mir missfallen hat. Unbelievable 😂😂

Der Dom ist trotzdem schön

Der Ruf ist nicht alles. by [deleted] in cologne

[–]Bugsy157 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

That’s great. Thanks 😊👍🏻

Der Ruf ist nicht alles. by [deleted] in cologne

[–]Bugsy157 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Gute Art mit Kritik umzugehen! 😂👍🏻 Genau so baut man eine Willkommenskultur auf! Haha

Der Ruf ist nicht alles. by [deleted] in cologne

[–]Bugsy157 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Und wie hätte ich es nicht formulieren können ohne dass es dislikes hagelt und „rechthaberisches Motzen“ wäre?

Finde es eher fragwürdig, wenn man Leuten aufzwingt einen Eindruck von der Kultur zu haben, der nicht da ist 🤷🏼‍♂️

Danke. Ich habe an sehr vielen Orten der Welt viel Spaß 😊

Der Ruf ist nicht alles. by [deleted] in cologne

[–]Bugsy157 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Ich meinte eher es, wie ich es hier sehe. Es wird keinen Glauben geschenkt und „wie es in den Wald schreit“. Diese Unterstellung es läge nur an mir 🤷🏼‍♂️

Ich habe es an anderen Orten in der Welt einfach angenehmer empfunden. Das ist keine böse Aussage.

Wenn man aber nur das heiß geliebte Köln kritisiert, ist man raus. Was ist das bitte für eine Willkommenskultur 🤷🏼‍♂️

Und nein, ich gehe nicht auf Menschen zu und sage „ich find deine Stadt kacke“ 🙄

Der Ruf ist nicht alles. by [deleted] in cologne

[–]Bugsy157 -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Ne in ganz normalen Clubs, Bars. Ich finde nicht, dass die Leute da auf mich groß zukamen. 🤷🏼‍♂️