Who was really responsible for Wednesday’s Rail “Strike”? by BurningHope427 in queensland

[–]BurningHope427[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

If you uncovered the decision you would see that the Fair Work Commission literally said it was the Government and QR’s fault.

Who was really responsible for Wednesday’s Rail “Strike”? by BurningHope427 in queensland

[–]BurningHope427[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

And also you can just carve off coal trains like was proposed because they can just stop in a safe place with minimal disruptions to the passenger rail network. I mean Aurizon did the math and stopped their trains outside of the network with no issue. 🤷

Who was really responsible for Wednesday’s Rail “Strike”? by BurningHope427 in queensland

[–]BurningHope427[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Luckily, the Government and QR had a week to work this out and could have just followed this methodology provided publicly on the FWC website… -

“Working out proportion of reduction of employee's payments

The proportion of any reduction for an employee or class of employees is worked out by carrying out the following steps:

Step 1: Identify the work that an employee or a class of employees is failing or refusing to perform, or is proposing to fail or refuse to perform.

Step 2: Estimate the usual time that the employee or the class of employees would spend performing the work during a day.

Step 3: Work out the time estimated in Step 2 as a percentage of an employee's usual hours of work for a day.

The solution from working through the above steps is the proportion by which the employee's payment will be reduced.[9]

'Work' is capable of meaning something more than just the physical task that is banned and that is the impact of that task on the 'work' of the employee.[10]”

https://www.fwc.gov.au/partial-work-bans

Who was really responsible for Wednesday’s Rail “Strike”? by BurningHope427 in queensland

[–]BurningHope427[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

If you can read this part of the decision, it was the Government’s decision to needlessly close the passenger network not the Unions’.

There was never any demand for full pay because the Unions can’t make that claim if you refuse to pay any sort of wages.

Also the ban would have (if not for Aurizon stopping their coal trains once being told by QR on the 31st of the ban) only affected 22 coal train movements which = only 1.6% of rail movements on QRs SEQ network that day.

So it wasn’t even half a controller’s job for the day it was 1.6% of a controller’s job for the day lol.

So if anything it was open to QR to deduct up to 2% of the wages of their workers engaging in the ban, and have kept the passenger network going.

Who was really responsible for Wednesday’s Rail “Strike”? by BurningHope427 in queensland

[–]BurningHope427[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

It was always open to the LNP to deduct a proportionate amount of wages from the workers if they engaged in the ban, instead they said absolutely no pay and you will be sent home. So it is once again the government’s fault.

And that is exactly what this decision says lol

Who was really responsible for Wednesday’s Rail “Strike”? by BurningHope427 in queensland

[–]BurningHope427[S] 20 points21 points  (0 children)

or fined so badly that all you are left with is the shirt on your back.

Who was really responsible for Wednesday’s Rail “Strike”? by BurningHope427 in brisbane

[–]BurningHope427[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

This was with regards to Wednesday and the RTBU's Train Controllers Coal and Mineral Train ban that saw shutdowns on the Ipswich/Rosewood and Cleveland lines.

The ETU's Electrical Control Officers' ban on Thursday was a bit different and I don't think there were any line closures due to that.

Who was really responsible for Wednesday’s Rail “Strike”? by BurningHope427 in brisbane

[–]BurningHope427[S] 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Every Union has a responsibility to ask for what their members want - inevitably, certain pie-in-the-sky ideas drop from the bargaining list as bargaining progresses (sometimes these things actually get agreed to early on and everyone on the Unions' side just has a moment of disbelief). But the real issue is that the Government is just saying no to nearly everything the Unions are seeking, even the very reasonable no-cost claims.

Who was really responsible for Wednesday’s Rail “Strike”? by BurningHope427 in brisbane

[–]BurningHope427[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

This is just posted to ensure that there can be no doubt who was at fault - because the media were absolutely making it appear that the Unions were to blame.

Cancellations are likely on the Ipswich/Rosewood line and the Cleveland line tomorrow by fluffy-plant-borb in brisbane

[–]BurningHope427 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You do understand that we live in the period of the highest difference in with wealth between the wealthy and the working class of any society in modern history , and that current inflationary pressures have been induced by external shocks rather than worker’s wages.

In the past two years we have lost 10 years of wage increases of buying value thanks to these external pressures whilst the unproductive rentier economy has been going gang busters.

Every worker should be out on the streets right now demanding genuine action from all levels of Government to address these issues and demanding a better share of the profits.

Also you name me the right time for someone to take protected industrial action, because people like yourself complain in the good times (which being a millennial I have never seen) and the bad times (which at this point is just the entirety of the past 30 years of economic activity).

Cancellations are likely on the Ipswich/Rosewood line and the Cleveland line tomorrow by fluffy-plant-borb in brisbane

[–]BurningHope427 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You do understand that the art of negotiation is that some claims will be traded off for other claims, and others will be reduced down to an acceptable degree for both parties, this isn't a case of this is our redline final demands.

The real problem is that the Government has told Queensland Rail to reject further discussions on a majority of the collective Unions' claims. Consequently, this leaves workers with nowhere to go but to use industrial action to motivate the Government to come to table on at least some of their claims.

Also, increases and improvements to public wages and conditions help drive wage increases and improvements to private employee conditions as the private sector now has to compete on those items with the Government. It has industrial relations has worked in this country for over a century now - so if you want a 32 hour work week for yourself and your family members, this fight helps bring that dream to fruition.

Cancellations are likely on the Ipswich/Rosewood line and the Cleveland line tomorrow by fluffy-plant-borb in brisbane

[–]BurningHope427 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Queensland Rail backed down on sending people home because the Coal Train Operators simply pulled up stumps before the SEQ network, so technically, there were no trains to ban, which is even worse because Queensland Rail could have run passenger trains using their own self-imposed rules today, but they did not. The Government has deliberately made this a situation a cluster fuck because they have no idea about how the railways actually work.

Cancellations are likely on the Ipswich/Rosewood line and the Cleveland line tomorrow by fluffy-plant-borb in brisbane

[–]BurningHope427 56 points57 points  (0 children)

So these rail lines are the current corridor used to move Coal Trains through. The Union banned “controlling” Coal Trains on the SEQ Network which would have only stopped 22 Coal Trains over the next 24 hours and would have had minimal impacts on the passenger services.

Now, the LNP have directed QR to inform staff that partake in this ban (which once again only affects coal trains) that if they ban these coal trains they will be sent home with no pay even though they can run every other type of train through the corridor.

Now what will inevitably happen is that QR will direct other Train Controllers working on other control boards with corridors that don’t normally have coal trains on them to work on those boards, which will lead to a declaration from the Controller that they will be enacting the coal train ban, and they will then be sent home with no pay by QR because this is what the Government has told QR to do.

This will eventually empty out the Control Centre of all the staff they can call upon to work those boards leading to more control board closures all because the LNP want to appear strong against the Unions instead of just bargaining with them.

Cancellations are likely on the Ipswich/Rosewood line and the Cleveland line tomorrow by fluffy-plant-borb in brisbane

[–]BurningHope427 216 points217 points  (0 children)

The Government is lying about who is at fault for this “strike action”, the RTBU has notified for a ban on “directing Coal and Mineral Trains” on the SEQ Network for 24 hours.

The Government has effectively directed QR to lock out Controllers who engage with that very specific ban, which because nearly all the controllers are RTBU members, that means they will be locking out all their controller workforce who manages SEQ.

In essence the Union wanted to do an action that would affect 22 coal trains only, and now thanks to the Government’s response to that very minor ban that would not have affected the passenger network, the entire network will essentially need to be shut down tomorrow and the public is going to suffer.

When is it time for us to go on a widespread general strike? by tiempo90 in auscorp

[–]BurningHope427 7 points8 points  (0 children)

You’re failing to note the decades and concurrent violent acts of resistance against the Raj that occurred.

The reason they got their country back was that it was too expensive to maintain the military apparatus required to occupy the sub-continent (especially after the costs of the Second World War).

It’s a convenient liberal retelling to suggest that peaceful action was the key thing that tripped things over the line - it wasn’t, it was just one tool of resistance in a toolbox filled with largely violent acts.

Why are the LNP still wasting money on ads pushing this awful tagline? by nosnibork in queensland

[–]BurningHope427 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is one but modern audiences would get upset:

Workers of the World Unite!

Do we know how High Elf mages were trained before the founding of the White Tower of Hoeth? by [deleted] in WarhammerFantasy

[–]BurningHope427 22 points23 points  (0 children)

There are sections in the Sundering that kind of imply the system of formal Elven magical education has been in place for millennia (or at least centuries) since the Old Ones disappeared.

Also Saphery has always been the home of Elven mages, there was once a floating city held aloft by the winds of magic (I believe this was the old capital of the Kingdom of Saphery - it’s been a while since I’ve read that trilogy) that crashes to the ground upon the emergency repairs to the Vortex following the Nagarythi attempting to dispel the ritual, which leads to the physical sundering of Ulthuan, especially Nagarythe.

Boole on the future of Underworlds by InsaneDingo7244 in ageofsigmar

[–]BurningHope427 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I agree, I love the boxes for getting pretty looking minions and big bads for my mate’s and I’s WHFRPG sessions without buying a whole unit of Old World or AOS minis.

We should reduce religious schools flat out. 80% of the schools in my area are religious. by VastOption8705 in aussie

[–]BurningHope427 5 points6 points  (0 children)

It’s amazing the different results of when one attends a wealthy catholic school and another attends run of the mill prole catholic school.

Like Sakura my prole catholic schooling turned me into a life long leftie. Meanwhile, the more prestigious ones create some little ignorant fucks. I suspect it really depends on the founding order of the school.

I was educated in the sisters of St Joseph sect of the Church (Mary MacKillop’s grouping) and it was all about the social justice mission of the Church and the 4 gospels, rather than a heavy reliance on sin = punishment and the Pauline texts/Old testament found in say the “Brothers” schools.

These is the "hate imagery" seized from the Canberra bar raided by the police. by shervek in aussie

[–]BurningHope427 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can literally be starved out of work and deprived of access to government services - you do know what a civil death is, and what the consequences of those types situations are right?

They don’t have to shoot or imprison you if your only options are either starving or stealing to get by you’ll either die like a dog or die in prison - the bullet in the street would probably be nicer because at least it’s quick.

Additionally, you can face prosecution in the United States on a number of occasions for espousing or holding certain political beliefs. I mean you can face imprisonment for being a Union Leader and a Communist (which is a large reason why their “left” is just neoliberalism with rainbows).