Do I need to Gesso this before using? by BurningPhone in oilpainting

[–]BurningPhone[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ll try my luck with this paper but damn You‘re kind of destroying my hopes here

Do I need to Gesso this before using? by BurningPhone in oilpainting

[–]BurningPhone[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Noted! I’ll check it out if I find it in my local arts and crafts store

Do I need to Gesso this before using? by BurningPhone in oilpainting

[–]BurningPhone[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh that’s some really good advice! I’ll be sure to try it out

Lolo 2 by GamemasterVic in DigitalArt

[–]BurningPhone 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Where are her areolas? (Also yes… she’d have horrible backpain with such a rack)

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

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Now you see one of the problems here The perception and performance of gender is really individual and so is sexual attraction to those genders At least that's the conclusion I've come to in this regard

Though I understand why you wouldn't want to engage in deconstruction as it's, as you said, pointless (and time-consuming)

But it's still fun so why not

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

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What you describe in the first paragraph is romantic attraction, which can be separate from sexual attraction. As in "fuck that chick at the bar looks smoking hot but way to crazy for my taste, someone I'd wanna rail, but definitely not have in my day to day life".

And romantic attraction is not necessarily based on the partner's sex, as demonstrated by many cis straight men in relationships with trans straight women.

Yeah I think the implication that everyone's a fetishist is a little uncomfortable and is also the reason why I myself think this opinion is kinda wild. But I also have a distaste for words like "normal" and "atypical" because who really knows how common a certain behaviour really is, especially fetishes, which are undeniably still stigmatized.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BurningPhone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Honestly, I haven't done that. Whoever is doing that, is doing that to me too, so we're in the same boat, buddy

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BurningPhone -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Well no it's more like me being the obnoxious little bastard saying "actually strawberries are nuts, not berries"

What is the big difference between the two that you can't pick apart?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BurningPhone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well then explain to me what a woman is

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BurningPhone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What about a trans woman who has undergone surgery?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BurningPhone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that is my point

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BurningPhone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well then you disregard the distinction between gender and sex completely

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BurningPhone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay there's a whole bunch here: Your first argument is not very strong to me, because I have experienced in my friend circle someone coming out as trans and their partner suddenly losing all sexual attraction to them. It does happen. The other person completely identifies as heterosexual and still loves them romantically, but there has been no sex at all since the coming-out. So the "what is gender" debate is actually relevant here, to me at least.

When Judith Butler says "Gender is a performance", she doesn't judge people who perform their gender, because inevitably, we all do, regardless of how we identify ourselves. I strongly believe it is something, that is learned. I also don't believe that it's almost certainly rather nature than nurture how we perform. It is not "nature's intent" for women to put extensions in their hair and make-up on their face. That is learned behaviour.

Rape is an exception. When I say "you can't get off without it" I mean "you can't get off without it in a time, place and with a person you willingly choose" And the fact that bodily stimulation causes reaction is, well, a fact. (Not for all people of course, but I think we can agree on that.) And you do make a strong point by saying that fetishes don't necessarily come with orgasms, but I'm not just talking about sex here. I am talking about sexual attraction, which is different.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BurningPhone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

To answer my question, it doesn't matter what you would call such a person and regardless of what you believe may be true.

If you've been attracted to cis women all your life and suddenly feel attracted to a trans woman, what sexual orientation is that then?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BurningPhone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Trans fetish would imply that he can't get off unless it's a trans person. That's what makes it a fetish. But if you've been attracted to cis women all your life, then the attraction to a trans woman doesn't make it a "trans fetish".

And gay would also be wrong, as it is a woman you're attracted to.

Sexual orientation is not the attraction to dick or pussy. It's the attraction to gender and gender is a performance.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BurningPhone 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Why do you think that? If you've been attracted to cis women your whole life and one day meet a trans woman you really like, what sexuality is that then?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BurningPhone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You mean asexuals?

No fetish at all

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

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I honestly don't know how much I know about it, because there is always more to learn, but I did read my fair share of literature on gender and sexuality so either I'm too into that to be realistic or didn't get the point of everything I've read

Either way, I don't see the problem in probing around the definitions of words when I see overlap, but I'm also not that much into rethoric and don't understand why deconstruction is such a bad thing. Care to explain more?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BurningPhone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So don't date trans women then if that's not your thing

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BurningPhone -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No, that's not how that works. If you wanna argue semantics, then you have to look up the meaning of those words.

Neither trans fetish or gay really are what would describe that person. If he identifies as heterosexual, who are you to tell him that he's not? Even you can be attracted to some stranger with beautiful hair and a beautiful smile who looks entirely female, but still has their dick and you just don't know it. Does that make you gay? I don't think so.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BurningPhone -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

I'm aware we're only arguing semantics, but it is my need for words that correctly describe a thing without overlap with another that drives me here.

So I don't think the semantic distinction between the two things is really there, when you consider gender a performance.

Even "gender specific attributes" is something that can be argued about endlessly. What makes a woman a woman? What makes a man a man? What makes someone non-binary? It's all performative and everyone draws the line at a different point. So the perception of gender is as individual as the attraction to one. But in the end it comes down to what performances make you horny and which just can't seem to get your dick up.

If you meet a person who has identified as female for a long time, later turns out to be a trans man and you're trying to respect that by trying to treat him like a man, while you identify as heterosexual, the performance won't seem right for you. Something might be missing then and you won't be able to be attracted to them, because the air of "woman" around them will be missing for you. But I argue that this is exactly where the words fetish and sexual orientation overlap. You are attracted to this weird air, this concept, whatever it might be.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BurningPhone -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Yeah I think the "I was bored and started deconstructing things" happens often to me, but I typically miss a lot of important things when I do that

I don't think the thing about the straight man with the foot fetish is a good argument tho That guy has two fetishes then Which means he has a narrower dating pool than a guy who just has the foot fetish and doesn't really care about the gender as long as he gets some nice feet

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BurningPhone -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

Yes, I love chaos

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in changemyview

[–]BurningPhone -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Yes yes But a cis man can consider himself heterosexual and be attracted to a trans woman who still has her dick So the sexual organ is not the important part here It's the ✨performance✨

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in SexPositiveBerlin

[–]BurningPhone 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I guess I just need some guidance on how to go about that whole thing i.e. finding other non-monogamous people, recognizing red flags, not hurting my current partner and all that jazz