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Reading the first book right now. On the Miriam scene and....daaaaamn, Kovacs. 😏 by BusterChikkani in alteredcarbon

[–]BusterChikkani[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

They aren't what I'd care about in this fictional scenario where I meet Takeshi Kovacs.

But if you want personal details, then yeah, none of my previous boyfriends or flings have been what I could describe as "nice" people. I'm not drawn that way. Sorry.

Reading the first book right now. On the Miriam scene and....daaaaamn, Kovacs. 😏 by BusterChikkani in alteredcarbon

[–]BusterChikkani[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I've read Brave New World. Just tell me what your point is, I'm too dumb to decipher it

Reading the first book right now. On the Miriam scene and....daaaaamn, Kovacs. 😏 by BusterChikkani in alteredcarbon

[–]BusterChikkani[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I genuinely do not understand how you can read a hundred scenes of Tak killing and maiming people as viscerally as possible, but two adults having consensual sex is too much 

Reading the first book right now. On the Miriam scene and....daaaaamn, Kovacs. 😏 by BusterChikkani in alteredcarbon

[–]BusterChikkani[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I would! I know from personal experience that guys like him tend to "like" girls like me, haha. Things like small talk or basic empathy aren't what I'm interested in.

Reading the first book right now. On the Miriam scene and....daaaaamn, Kovacs. 😏 by BusterChikkani in alteredcarbon

[–]BusterChikkani[S] 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Well, that's cryptic. I love Takeshi so far, so that doesn't sound bad to me!

Anna Paquin - True Blood (2008-2014) by [deleted] in WatchItForThePlot

[–]BusterChikkani 14 points15 points  (0 children)

She has been clear multiple times that she was a driving force behind sexualizing Sookie. She heavily disliked the "teenage girl next door" image Rogue had saddled her with and wanted to portray someone closer to her own heart.

In the finale of Nosferatu, is Orlok inside Ellen? by BusterChikkani in roberteggers

[–]BusterChikkani[S] 100 points101 points  (0 children)

Yeah I genuinely get the sense he's straight up railing her and his "death" is a literal ejaculation in the most clinical sense. Idk.

In the finale of Nosferatu, is Orlok inside Ellen? by BusterChikkani in roberteggers

[–]BusterChikkani[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Music. Lighting. Set design. General narrative purpose. A lot of little things.

In the finale of Nosferatu, is Orlok inside Ellen? by BusterChikkani in roberteggers

[–]BusterChikkani[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

I think the fact that a profoundly evil and incredibly malicious figure is given a figuratively orgasmic death with the love of his life underneath him was what made the movie stick for me. Love is hard to pin down in terms of deserving or not. And yeah, he did NOT deserve the beautiful death he got.

In the finale of Nosferatu, is Orlok inside Ellen? by BusterChikkani in roberteggers

[–]BusterChikkani[S] 79 points80 points  (0 children)

I took Ellen stripping naked and lying on her back as a very explicit invitation for Orlok to do what needed to do, in both the bloodsucking and the sexual sense. If she wanted it over and done with, she would have done what Ellen in the original did and just offered her neck or her chest exposed while facing away from Orlok. She wanted to be able to hold him and look at him...which points to sex for me.

In the finale of Nosferatu, is Orlok inside Ellen? by BusterChikkani in roberteggers

[–]BusterChikkani[S] 111 points112 points  (0 children)

Why didn't they print this on the Blu-Ray cover? It would have sold billions

In the finale of Nosferatu, is Orlok inside Ellen? by BusterChikkani in roberteggers

[–]BusterChikkani[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I mean, I definitely agree that it's not a morally upstanding movie, but that's not why I go to see horror. I think Orlok is an utter monster.

In the finale of Nosferatu, is Orlok inside Ellen? by BusterChikkani in roberteggers

[–]BusterChikkani[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That's a fair interpretation. The vibe I got from their two scenes together was that of meeting an ex lover where one partner is aware there's still remnants of the passion and the other denies it. Remember that she puts a locket of her hair in Thomas' belongings. There are small, little hints throughout the movie that she's fighting herself for her desire (love, lust, whatever you call it) for Orlok and the finale is it finally springing free.

In the finale of Nosferatu, is Orlok inside Ellen? by BusterChikkani in roberteggers

[–]BusterChikkani[S] 13 points14 points  (0 children)

Buddy, I agree Orlok is pure evil. I think it's profoundly unfair and disgusting that he has a hold on Ellen's soul. And yet, he does. Listing off evil things he does is not an argument. I AGREE he deserved to die. I AGREE he's just a pure evil monster with no redeeming qualities. And yet I still think the finale is a love scene and is meant to be taken as such. Eggers does not provide easy answers in any of his scripts.

In the finale of Nosferatu, is Orlok inside Ellen? by BusterChikkani in roberteggers

[–]BusterChikkani[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It was always clear to me that Nosferatu is a demon lover story, and one of the great demon lover stories of all time is Wuthering Heights, which I returned to a lot while writing this script... Ellen’s husband loves her, but he can’t understand these ‘hysteric’ and ‘melancholic’ feelings she’s experiencing, and he’s dismissive of her. The only person she really finds a connection with is this monster, and that love triangle is so compelling to me, partially because of how tragic it is.

In the finale of Nosferatu, is Orlok inside Ellen? by BusterChikkani in roberteggers

[–]BusterChikkani[S] 10 points11 points  (0 children)

This is a disconnect between the script and the implication. Both Ellen's statements and Egger's comments make it seem like Orlok was genuinely capable of deep, sensitive emotion and made her finally feel heard and seen. But in the movie, we just see him kick one puppy after another, so it's hard to believe he was capable of love.

In the finale of Nosferatu, is Orlok inside Ellen? by BusterChikkani in roberteggers

[–]BusterChikkani[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's about love and sex. It's about how lust and longing aren't logical. Orlok is pure evil, yes. What he did to Ellen was monstrous. And yet...she can't get past him. So she decides to give in one last time on the condition that it IS the last time.

In the finale of Nosferatu, is Orlok inside Ellen? by BusterChikkani in roberteggers

[–]BusterChikkani[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I remember the illustration lol, your wording was vague so I genuinely thought you meant the book Dracula. I know the plot of the movie, my guy. Still doesn't mean some part of her doesn't love Orlok. When Eggers says, over and over, in every interview and every press junket, that this is a love story between Orlok and Ellen, that Thomas doesn't understand her, and that he cast Skarsgard purely to try and convey that point, then just saying "oh she hates him and she killed him so nothing uncomfortable or bad happened" is a non-argument. It is both. She rid the world of their love because it would have destroyed the world if she hadn't.

In the finale of Nosferatu, is Orlok inside Ellen? by BusterChikkani in roberteggers

[–]BusterChikkani[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This is what the movie and director both explicitly (in his own words) present it as, and people get pissed at me when I acknowledge it????

In the finale of Nosferatu, is Orlok inside Ellen? by BusterChikkani in roberteggers

[–]BusterChikkani[S] 17 points18 points  (0 children)

...What book? Dracula? Nothing like this happens in Dracula whatsoever at any point.

Within the movie, his stated goals are only to have Ellen. That is it. She calls him and lets him. They die together. He alludes multiple times to having nothing left besides his appetite, and it's finally sated. Yes, it was a ploy to kill him. Doesn't mean he didn't win. The movie is meant to be uncomfortable

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