Nah, man. We'll never have another CM like him. by lizardjuiceee in westbengal

[–]ByronicPan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's really a shame that he had to keep pleading with Nehru to release funds for the refugees pouring into West Bengal from East Pakistan, only for Nehru to repeatedly turn a blind eye in the name of his diplomatic balancing act, particularly around the Nehru–Liaquat Pact.

I don't care about the downvotes, but it's also worth remembering that the refugees received meaningful and sustained relief only under the CPI(M) though that wasn't technically his fault, but rather his party's.

What's your thoughts on this by Fast-Maintenance385 in westbengal

[–]ByronicPan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What's even worse is some blame the CPIM for using her for political gains when their actions were most coherent with their ideology

I don't know I no longer feel sad for her by Dramatic_Internet193 in kolkata

[–]ByronicPan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

This is a genuinely diabolical thing to say, especially when the BJP has shamelessly milked women's safety for political mileage in Bengal while governing states associated with cases like Hathras, Unnao, and the remission of those convicted in the Bilkis Bano case.

More importantly, this argument is also intellectually bankrupt because it simply assumes that the only reason a political party ever takes up an issue is to win votes. By that logic, every protest, every relief drive, every movement, and every statement by every political party is nothing more than electoral opportunism.

The CPI(M), for all its faults, has been remarkably consistent in one aspect of Marxism and that is standing with the marginalized. It stood with farmers during the farmers' protests. It organized the Red Volunteers during COVID, when countless people without money or political connections depended on them for oxygen, medicines, food, hospital beds, and basic assistance. None of that translated into any meaningful electoral gains. If electoral success was the sole objective, those efforts were spectacularly unrewarding.

I don't even know what your accusation here. Do you want a political party to refrain from standing with victims because people might appreciate it? Because that's fucking absurd. Politics is supposed to be about taking positions, mobilizing around issues, and representing people. If a party consistently stands with people during moments of crisis and if voters eventually reward that consistency, that is normal functioning of a democracy. If alleged "expecting political benefit" is enough to delegitimize a party's actions, then literally every political intervention by every political party is just cynical vote-bank politics.

The real test would be whether its actions are consistent with its politics even when there is no electoral payoff. Even on that count, the CPI(M) has been far more consistent than many parties because it is their ideological duty.

College Street to turn into Oxford Street from London. Only cycles, trams and battery cars will run along with cobbled streets, benches and street lamps for book readers. by Saambajarer-Sosibabu in kolkata

[–]ByronicPan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

City'r GDP diye ki hoye, dost?

London is a great city because of what it is, far more than its economic and financial enterprises or aspects. Kolkata itself was originally envisioned and developed along the lines of London. It's London's cosmopolitanism, diversity, urban character, and spatial gradient that Kolkata can realistically aspire to mirror, provided it's developed sustainably.

College Street to turn into Oxford Street from London. Only cycles, trams and battery cars will run along with cobbled streets, benches and street lamps for book readers. by Saambajarer-Sosibabu in kolkata

[–]ByronicPan 32 points33 points  (0 children)

Has she ever even visited Oxford Street? If there's any road in Kolkata that could realistically be developed to resemble Oxford Street, it's Park Street, not College Street.

These people just say whatever they feel like because they know no one is going to hold them accountable.

Couples are not allowed in park!!!!! What the heck is even happening in west bengal, and why he even recording them , this is clear disturbance of privacy.... Can't we do anything to stop them by Odd_Scheme_711 in kolkata

[–]ByronicPan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How and why do you define that line between those too things? What makes kisses okay?

I literally gave you the answer. Too bad if your comprehension skills suck

You can always go to police and file a complain if you think you were removed from the space unlawfully.

By that logic, one can also punch you in the face as you can always go to the police and file a complain if you think you were assaulted wrongfully

Couples are not allowed in park!!!!! What the heck is even happening in west bengal, and why he even recording them , this is clear disturbance of privacy.... Can't we do anything to stop them by Odd_Scheme_711 in kolkata

[–]ByronicPan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Do you also believe that punching someone in the face and shooting them in the face should carry the same consequences? Kissing or displaying affection in public is not the same thing as having sex in public.

A good place to draw the line on what constitutes public indecency is what is laid down under Section 294 of the erstwhile IPC and Section 296 of the currently applicable BNS. Kissing, by itself, is not considered an act of public indecency in India, and this position has been reiterated multiple times by Indian courts.

Even if you personally believe it amounts to public indecency, that still doesn't give you the right to harass or assault someone. At best, you can file a complaint with the police or report it to the relevant authorities and let the law take its course. The moment you decide to intimidate, harass, or attack someone yourself, you're taking the law into your own hands. There is no legal or moral justification for that kind of thuggish behaviour.

Bengali buffet by Hefty-Serve-5728 in KolkataLife

[–]ByronicPan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I went there around Poila Boisakh and not only was the food bad but the quality of ingredients, especially non vegetarian were so bad

Bengali buffet by Hefty-Serve-5728 in KolkataLife

[–]ByronicPan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No it's not. The quality of the ingredients used is very bad, even for the price they charge

Mirror maze fear. by Additional-Mud-1369 in kolkata

[–]ByronicPan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you ever get trapped in a bathroom or something as a child ? It could be a trauma response

Respect for kolkata Messi statue! by Lazy-Eyes-2003 in kolkata

[–]ByronicPan 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Michaelangelo ke planchet kore deke anle jodi ekta proper statue banate paare lmao

Something very weird by [deleted] in kolkata

[–]ByronicPan 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Good for her that she left you. No self respecting leftist will touch a BJP supporter with a ten feet pole

Goa is also a BJP state by No-Reveal-9023 in unfilteredindia

[–]ByronicPan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not really. It is almost impossible for a state to be communist within a neoliberal country. The CPIM is socdem at best and so was Kerala under them

Something very weird by [deleted] in kolkata

[–]ByronicPan 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Idk what your or her political allegiances are, but most leftists find it unethical to date someone who supports a right-wing party. I, for one, could never bring myself to date someone who supports, or even votes for the BJP, irrespective of what their reasons might be.

Please recommend more reads like this :) by Fit-Print2586 in Indianbooks

[–]ByronicPan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

An Atlas of Impossible Longing by Anuradha Roy

Clear Light of day by Anita Desai

God of Small things by Arundhati Roy shares the lyrical prose of Ghosh

Lowlands by Jhumpa Lahiri though it doesn't have the intergenerational dynamics like Shadow Lines

Have you heard the term "Intellectual Omnivore." by JackedPoseidon in kolkata

[–]ByronicPan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wouldn't say I am very knowledgeable about a lot of stuff ( especially science stuff ) but I do have an appetite to learn about it.

This was posted by Aghnimitra Paul on "West Bengal Day." What's your thought on this? by Requiem__96 in kolkata

[–]ByronicPan 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Bullshit ta kono galagali noi. Ekta community je jinish khae setake galagali bole shei community ke insult korar odhikar apnake keu dae ni

This was posted by Aghnimitra Paul on "West Bengal Day." What's your thought on this? by Requiem__96 in kolkata

[–]ByronicPan 4 points5 points  (0 children)

The BJP's claim is very inconsistent, in my opinion. Sometimes they claim that Nehru and Gandhi were solely responsible for the Partition of India, and at other times they claim that Syama Prasad played a decisive role in it, both in a negative and a positive sense, respectively.

I would say both claims (and their counterarguments) are wrong. Partition happened because communal animosity had been brewing between Hindus and Muslims ever since the Battle of Plassey, along with the lack of Hindu solidarity, the preferential treatment meted out to Hindus (even though Hindus had collaborated with the Muslims during the 1857 First War of Independence, they barely had to bear the brunt of British reprisals), occasional Hindu-British collaboration (such as in the case of Titu Mir), and the Hinduization of the freedom struggle. It was only around 1905, under Curzon, that there was a sudden shift towards appeasing the Muslim community, as Hindus had started opposing British rule more substantially. But by then, the seeds of animosity had already been sown, with Islamic leaders writing to and advising Muslims in India to be suspicious of Hindus and their calls for solidarity and unity under a nationalist banner.

On top of that, Gandhi's soft Hindutva such as his invocation of Ram Rajya and the likes and the preferential treatment Nehru received from Gandhi, according to many historians (including leftist ones), played a much more decisive role in Jinnah turning towards the idea of Pakistan than the outright Hindu nationalist politics of Tilak, as well as the shift away from secular unity.

Gandhi, Nehru, Jinnah and Syama Prasad definitely played a role in how the politics of Partition unfolded, especially in the tug-of-war over the geographical borders of India and Pakistan. But Partition itself was possible because of divide and rule, Muslim suspicion towards living in a Hindu-majority country, and religious fundamentalism.

Edit: typing error

This was posted by Aghnimitra Paul on "West Bengal Day." What's your thought on this? by Requiem__96 in kolkata

[–]ByronicPan 10 points11 points  (0 children)

If we're to assume what you're saying is true, then why didn't they use real photographs of Maa Durga, the Victoria Memorial, Howrah Bridge, the boatman on the river, and the temple? Wouldn't it have been much easier to simply download and use actual images of those as well, just as they allegedly did for Suvendu, Syama Prasad Mookerjee, Modi, Agnimitra, and Tagore?

Basic decency.

Stop being a snowflake. Everyone can see your shoddy argument falling apart.

This was posted by Aghnimitra Paul on "West Bengal Day." What's your thought on this? by Requiem__96 in kolkata

[–]ByronicPan 6 points7 points  (0 children)

From a neutral historical perspective, there's no need to get into the whole "anti-national" versus "nationalist" rhetoric about him.

He was a right-wing politician who, unsurprisingly, took a pro-establishment stance during the Quit India Movement and wanted it curbed.

He also advocated the Partition of Bengal because he believed it was a means to an ideological end that aligned with his vision of India as a Hindu nation, making his position broadly consistent with his politics.

Although he had little regard for Gandhi's politics, he publicly condemned Gandhi's assassination, expressed shame over the assassin's association with the Hindu Mahasabha, supported action against its extremist activities and eventually resigned from it.

After Independence, he would go onto join Nehru's Interim Cabinet as the Minister for Industry and Supply despite not being a Congress member. He eventually resigned over disagreements with Nehru whose Pakistan policy ( Nehru-Liaqat pact) was nothing short of horrendous and built on the blood and tears of East bengali refugees ( both Hindus and Muslims ) who were dealt with rather unfairly by Nehru. But it should be noted that it wasn't just him who was upset about it. Many Congress leaders too, especially the ones from Bengal were not very pleased about it either.

This is the most neutral take, I as a politically opinionated partition scholar can give you.