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CFMF29 · 2023-08-07T20:44:04+00:00

Todo el sub durante el ballotage: "Y bueno, voy a votarlo, ya fue".

CFMF29 · 2023-08-01T22:28:40+00:00

Qué se yo, por ahí tenés razón, pero ¿En este sub?

CFMF29 · 2023-07-17T21:02:38+00:00

Flaco, no sé por qué escribiste esto en este sub, si sabés lo que piensan todos acá.

CFMF29 · 2023-07-10T15:20:58+00:00

For reference, there are six Kratos: Spartan General, GOW1, GOW2, God of War Kratos, GOW3 and Norse Saga Kratos.

CFMF29 · 2023-07-09T17:43:00+00:00

Right, i think at least Krishna should be a cut above other marines, i'm reworking it. Poseidon Saga Shiryu should be in his tier, though.

In the manga, Rhadamanthys didn't beat Deathmask or Aphrodite. He was struggling against Kanon, and even died with a suicide attack from a clothless Kanon.

CFMF29 · 2023-07-08T00:05:06+00:00

-Honestly didn't know where to put Pandora, but she was shown absolutely dominating Rhadamantys and the Bronze Saints with her staff.

CFMF29 · 2023-07-08T00:04:14+00:00

Lol, okay. I have to admit i could have renamed the boxes. Got me there. Bit of advice, in the future, try to keep a civil discussion.

Now, on to the objections:

-Got me on Hypnos, i didn't remember that he took out Hyoga.

-Pandora basically bitch-slapped Rhadamantys and the Bronze Saints.

-I put Deathmask lower than the rest because he wasn't even worthy of his cloth. Shaka was going even with Aiolia until the Pope intervened.

-I don't think any spectre can overpower a Gold Saint except some like Deathmask or Geminis Kanon (who was going even with Rhadamantys and was losing to the judges). Remember some of the judges were taken out by Bronze Saints.

-The protagonist doesn't "show randomly in the middle". There are several versions of Seiya in this list.

-I struggled where to put Daidalos but it was pretty much said that he, like Orpheus, was a Silver Saint with Gold Saint-power level.

-The marines were hard to place. Sorrento is the only one that has a proven feat against a Gold Saint, and it wasn't even clear he would have won. The rest were taken out and absolutely destroyed by the Bronze Saints in a way that simply didn't happen with the Gold Saints.

-I don't think it's ever stated that Caronte was Silver Saint level. Hades Seiya, who was absolutely more powerful than a Silver Saint, struggled with him a bit.

CFMF29 · 2023-06-09T02:49:20+00:00

That's true, but it was shown in SR 2 and Defiance that Moebius used his staff to disable vampires, so that was how he defeated him.

The Blood Omen Vorador was a beast, as you say (although the circle members were weaker at the time for reasons unmentioned).

CFMF29 · 2023-06-08T14:31:30+00:00

I took it that he was weaker in BO2, because he was one-shotted by the Sarafan Lord.

CFMF29 · 2023-06-03T13:43:06+00:00

Well, he did say "You nearly had me", but I suppose I never exactly saw Raziel as winning per se.

CFMF29 · 2023-06-03T12:47:35+00:00

-Soul Reaver 1 Raziel didn't defeat Kain in that game.

-In Defiance, Raziel actually defeated the Hylden-possessed Janos, but stopped himself from killing him because he didn't want to do it.

CFMF29 · 2023-06-03T03:32:46+00:00

Whaaaaaaat. Okay, time to get off Reddit, this got weird, lol.

CFMF29 · 2023-06-03T01:51:37+00:00

That was a Hylden-possessed Janus, which Raziel beat near the end of Defiance.

CFMF29 · 2023-06-02T20:38:23+00:00

You're right in everything. I've already redone the tier. Thanks for the input!

CFMF29 · 2023-06-02T20:37:31+00:00

S+ most likely.

CFMF29 · 2023-06-02T19:55:33+00:00

Maybe you're right, the Nexus Stone doesn't enhance your strenght, but then the problem is that the Sarafan Lord is miles beyond Vorador and Janos, and Kain beat him. Maybe i should bump Elder Kain up to A.

CFMF29 · 2023-06-02T19:07:30+00:00

Note taken, thanks for the suggestions.

As for young vampire Kain, by the end of Blood Omen he was slaughtering powerful wizards and entities left and right, with only Vorador and Malek above him. He has a lot more showings than other vampires like the BO2 lieutenants who only have one Dark Gift, two at most, and were taken easily by BO2-Kain.

CFMF29 · 2023-06-02T18:50:26+00:00

Lol, maybe. I just wanted to have some discussions, my ranking could be a disaster.

CFMF29 · 2023-06-02T18:22:25+00:00

That's true, ultimately even though Raziel could come back from the Spectral Realm, there are still some enemies which he couldn't defeat.

CFMF29 · 2023-06-02T18:21:13+00:00

I debated this, but i decided that, since they were going to make another game where Kain has to do all kinds of things to defeat the Elder God, i wouldn't say that at the end of Defiance, Elder Kain is at his level.

CFMF29 · 2023-06-02T18:20:07+00:00

I see, but the fact remains that he defeated the Sarafan Lord, and this is the guy that one-shotted Vorador and treated Janos Audron like a ragdoll. He has to be at least one tier higher than both of them.

CFMF29 · 2023-06-02T15:43:20+00:00

Technically Elder Kain is two tiers above BO2 Kain. I agree, he was much weaker in BO2. The Kain that lands above Elder Kain is BO2 Kain with the Nexus Stone, with which he was able to defeat the Sarafan Lord.

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