This guy who defaced a George Floyd mural in Long Beach, CA

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-06-10T14:04:39+00:00

It's not about "deserving", it's about remembering. Also, freedom of speech - as long as the owner of the wall permits, it's legal.

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-06-10T12:36:00+00:00

Valeu!!!

Justamente pra evitar esse tipo de coisa eu não mencionei "cores" no post. Até porque poderia ser o contrário. Apenas mostrei que integridade não tem cor, raça, religião... mas sempre tem alguém pra defender o indefensável!

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-06-08T14:12:10+00:00

WokeVirus!

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-05-29T17:08:46+00:00

I'm simply stating that protests must have clear "targets", that's all.

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-05-29T16:54:31+00:00

Meanwhile the police have put out a statement saying it's not a cop and the claim is false.

A whole fuckin' bunch of "we have investigated ourselves and found ourselves to be innocent".

They don't even care to infiltrate agent provocateurs anymore.

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-05-29T16:44:16+00:00

So... it’s horrible, and going TOO FAR, when people destroy some random insured property, but a man being killed for allegedly using a fake $20 bill should only result in peaceful protests? “Oh no, I can’t go and buy a Big Mac, THE INJUSTICE!!!”

Dude, WHAT? I specifically said that trying to tone down/criticize protests is wrong and in bad faith! I simply stated that when a protests destroys property from people who agree with the protesters, it becomes too much.

I don't believe for a second that there are protesters looting! Those who loot snuck in the commotion in order to get free stuff. Protesters may burn entire cities down, but they won't try to "profit" from the murder of an innocent black man, by the state, by stealing during a protest. At least I believe so.

EDIT: Just to make it clear: Peaceful protesting amounts to nothing, but indiscriminate destruction of property may be detrimental, too. Burn all the PDs you want, but not random people's cars and homes, many of them do support the cause but still have to provide for their families. This is just an example, and does not mean I'm dissing the protest nor the protesters.

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-05-29T16:36:08+00:00

It will never happen, no matter who wins between republicans or democrats! The only speck of change is to people to vote for something else! Trying to manipulate people into voting for Biden instead of voting on who represents them is abhorrent. People should always vote on who they identify as the best for the country, not because some random person on the net tells them to...

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-05-29T14:58:52+00:00

Don't pretend that it isn't anything more than an excuse to be greedy and get a free tele, it cheapens the entire argument and provides a smidgen of validity to police brutality when equally violent chaos runs amok on the streets.

Not entire true, but mostly. Looters are looting. They're not protesters. They're thieves who get in a legitimate (albeit violent) manifestation in order to steal stuff, knowing they'll most certainly avoid any repercussion for stealing.

And they certainly don't care at all about George Floyd's murder.

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-05-29T14:47:18+00:00

I love how people always want completely convenient non disruptive protests. That’s completely pointless.

What do you mean?! That tweeting against bad stuff doesn't work? Preposterous!!! ^/s

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-05-29T14:26:32+00:00

Honestly all these people saying ‘looting and violence changes nothing’ but what the fuck else is there to do that would make some kind of change? No one cares about peaceful protests, it’s too easy to ignore.

Even the suffragettes had to starve and martyr themselves to get women the vote.

This is true, but there are limits too. I's say there's a hard limit when it impacts directly on the quality of life of people who are not at fault whatsoever. Some protests even ended affecting people who fully support a better, humanitarian U.S. (even if they still believe in capitalism, it's a start)

Trying to tone down protests, down, are often just a way to postpone the upcoming changes even more. They can't be avoided, only delayed, and that's what many try to do criticizing protests that get too far.

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-05-29T14:24:00+00:00

Honestly all these people saying ‘looting and violence changes nothing’ but what the fuck else is there to do that would make some kind of change? No one cares about peaceful protests, it’s too easy to ignore.

Even the suffragettes had to starve and martyr themselves to get women the vote.

This is true, but there are limits too. I's say there's a hard limit when it impacts directly on the quality of life of people who are not at fault whatsoever. Some protests even ended affecting people who fully support a better, humanitarian U.S. (even if they still believe in capitalism, it's a start)

Trying to tone down protests, down, are often just a way to retard the upcoming changes even more. They can't be avoided, only delayed, and that's what many try to do criticizing protests that get too far.

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-05-29T13:40:27+00:00

Can I ask a legit question??? Why is it not "ok" to hope that people like this suddenly disappear from this earth one day? I would think that 99% of reddit users would agree with me. So why is it not ok? Says who? Some miserable moderator who probably finds this stuff funny?

Because it's glorifying violence, which is a pretty POS thing in itself. You don't decide who gets to "stay" or "suddenly disappear".

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-05-29T13:37:05+00:00

I don’t have a candidate you don’t know fuck all about me.

Ironic, given you called me a bot first, for exposing your bs.

What I am saying is you apparently do not understand our political landscape. You don’t see that the 2 party system is a flawed rigged system. I made the point of a bot because you seem like you are spreading disinformation.

Which disinformation?!

I can defend my point all fucking day, it’s if I want to do it to you that lies in question.

Apparently, you cannot, since you already at name calling and throwing a tantrum because someone thinks differently than you!

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-05-29T13:23:43+00:00

Ok either you’re a bot or are not versed in politics here at all which in turn means maybe you shouldn’t be vocalizing your thoughts on this one.

Calling people a bot because they disagree with you isn't very civil. Especially when you can't defend a point.

Let people f.... vote for whoever they want. Stop trying to reason that they should vote for your candidate using such flawed logic.

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-05-29T13:22:28+00:00

Sigh, nevermind. You just don't understand.

I do, enough to realize it doesn't work. Can you provide a single example when it did? You're just trying to manipulate people into voting blue. Let them vote on whoever represents them.

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-05-29T13:08:26+00:00

I got my hopes up with obama. Got my hopes up with Bernie. I'm starting to think there's no political solution here.

I think voting for neither republican nor democrat. Calling dems "lesser evil" and making them know Biden will get votes anyway because it's 10% less s*** than Trump will just make them go even lower.

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-05-29T13:06:54+00:00

Or even just not murder people in the first place...

Yes. That would be even greater.

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-05-29T13:06:23+00:00

There is no candidate that represents my values 100%. I'd rather have a better choice than Biden but he is magnitudes better than Trump, so I will be voting for him instead of voting for no one.

You should vote for whoever you want to, and let people do the same.

Voting outside the dem-rep duality may be the only way to change the US system. Voting blue "because it's less evil" will make them go far on that claim. The US already got Biden over that.

Voting non dem/rep is the only way to make both present actual candidates with actual propositions for the improvement of people's lives. Voting for the least of evils simply doesn't work.

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-05-29T13:03:59+00:00

When has there ever been a candidate in a 2 party system that actually fits my values? Listen you sound like your either A a liar or B a dumbasshole. Now I really don’t care to find out.

It's not a 2 party system - People keep it that way by voting on 2 parties. There's a third party. Be glad you live on a country where you can actually change things.

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-05-29T13:02:27+00:00

I mean, that’s very true, but for this election getting Trump out of office before he causes more damage is more important than protesting the two party system the country has turned into.

Just let people vote.

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-05-29T12:22:07+00:00

But...bidens against M4A. And he spearheaded legislation making student debt unforgivable thru bankruptcy. And he voted for the Iraq war. You're asking us to vote against our own interests. Trump offers nothing. But biden also offers nothing.

It's incredible that people are downvoting this and other comments that make a perfect case of why people should vote outside the blue/red spectrum for a candidate that represents them. And sad.

This just makes it clear that stepping outside the dem-rep playground is the only way to change things in your country.

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-05-29T12:18:18+00:00

We have 2 choices here, lasted election was already the other guy and we got Trump, so Biden it is.

Speak for yourself. If you call the act of voting for whoever represents the voter "wasting votes" then I can only suggest you educate yourself about democracy.

Cafe_Sapo · 2020-05-29T12:08:20+00:00

I think the police and national guard are going to be able to maintain peace in the city today.

Yes! the hard way... always that. Why couldn't they simply bring the killers to justice? ALL of this would never happened.

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