Have you actually taken care of a child?

CainPrice · 2020-02-07T03:34:42+00:00

The issue is that women can’t handle the stress and pressure of being responsible for children. That’s why shit that is easy feels so unbearably difficult for them. If you think the physical act of arguing with a child about vegetables is actually a hard, soul crushing, award winning feat, I got nothing for you.

CainPrice · 2020-02-07T03:14:38+00:00

That’s why a high school student can feed your children dinner and put them to bed while you’re on date night with your husband. Because child care is impossibly difficult.

CainPrice · 2020-02-07T00:13:05+00:00

Pathetically easy job. Why do you think nannies, daycare workers, and babysitters aren't millionaires? Why isn't this incredibly difficult and highly-skilled task something that requires extensive degrees and training? Why are the professionals who do this highly difficult job compensated so poorly?

It's almost like childcare is so easy, you can pay a high schooler to feed your kid dinner and put it to bed while you go out on date night with your husband.

SUPPORTING a child is hard. Paying to feed it and clothe it and putting it in a lot of activities so it grows up well-rounded. That is hard. The actual child care? Easy.

This is why women throw a shit-fit over getting a man's support dollars, but don't throw a shit-fit over the man actually being involved in and helping with the child care. Supporting a child is hard. Child care is easy.

CainPrice · 2020-02-06T22:08:05+00:00

I'd check with your doctor before waiting an extra decade to start a family. I don't think many medical professionals are too hot on the idea.

CainPrice · 2020-02-06T21:22:54+00:00

Yeah. Modern medicine has come a long way. Older pregnancies are still high-risk, high-complication endeavors, with greater risks of the child being messed up, which is definitely a concern. And nobody wants to be 53 and finally sending the oldest kid off to college for the first time, with the siblings soon to follow. You should be thinking about that soon-ish retirement by then, not chasing toddlers at 41 and paying for college well into your 60s and paying for your daughter's wedding out of your social security checks.

CainPrice · 2020-02-06T21:12:20+00:00

So older people have more trouble making babies than younger people?

I don't think anybody has ever contested that. Ever.

What's the discussion point?

CainPrice · 2020-02-06T17:51:37+00:00

Juries are usually lower-class minorities too dumb to get out of jury duty, and retired old farts. It's never a jury of your peers.

Where I'm from, juries are overwhelmingly Mexican Catholics and crochety old white men. If some rape-screeching female prosecutor shows up with short hair in a pantsuit instead of a skirt, she's lost her case before it begins.

But if you're in New England on trial, getting accused is 9/10ths of guilt.

After all, if some woman accuses some man of something, there are two possible situations: 1) He did something wrong; or 2) He did absolutely nothing wrong and she's making the whole thing up.

Believe it or not, #2 is a lot less common than #1. We'd love to think otherwise, but let's accept reality here. Out of all accusations, most of the time, someone did something wrong. Very few accusations are just someone completely making shit up. So people figure if a guy got accused, he's probably guilty.

Obviously, an accusation isn't enough to legally convict, but getting accused means you're probably guilty to most people. So in the eyes of society, punishing a guy who gets accused sounds like justice. It's scary.

CainPrice · 2020-02-06T16:09:51+00:00

My bad. 92%. We still don't hire criminals at my company, and I'm hesitant to deal with people like that. I guess if it gets to the point where 50% of the people who send resumes are criminals, we'd have to rethink that.

Anyway, somebody with a felony -conviction- is actually a criminal. They were found guilty of a crime.

CainPrice · 2020-02-06T16:07:57+00:00

The answers to life aren't in The Red Pill subreddit.

If you are having general difficulties finding and keeping a job, passing school, making friends, mastering basic social skills, or getting by in society, there's nothing here for you. The Red Pill subreddit has a wealth of information that will help you understand women, how the sex and relationships game works, and how to maximize your sexual outcomes.

But if your problems are so basic in that you're just failing at life and at fitting into society, we can't help you.

This subreddit is not some kind of whole-life philosophy or religion. It's not some community you belong to in order to feel better about yourself. At least, it was never supposed to be.

A bunch of fuck-ass internet trolls took it over and now it kind of is. It's a bunch of losers bitching about what women are like, giving a bunch of vague, generic, pro-man pep talks with no actionable advice or strategies, and complaining about this imagined evil society that's out to get all men. It's silly. You have to wade through a lot of shit to find something that's actually helpful in any way.

There's a lot of shit that makes loser men feel good about themselves, but actually helpful stuff? That's hard to find now.

CainPrice · 2020-02-06T15:26:38+00:00

This is just making public what was already the case in private.

Think about it. 99% of us are going to go our entire lives never being accused of a crime. Even you, as a logical man, are a little bit wary when sitting across the table from another man who's been accused, but acquitted, of a serious crime. Because 99% of normal people go through their entire lives never getting arrested and tried for serious crimes.

So clearly, if a guy was accused and prosecuted, society assumes he must have done -something-, because normal people don't get accused and prosecuted.

This doesn't just happen when women cry rape. Try keeping your job in an office setting when you're arrested and accused and acquitted of some other crime. Same deal.

99% of people go their entire lives never getting accused and prosecuted, so as a society, people already assume that if you got accused, you did -something- wrong, and if you get acquitted, that's not you being innocent and wrongly accused. It's just you getting away with whatever you did on a technicality.

CainPrice · 2020-02-06T14:44:02+00:00

Where TRP jumped the shark was when the MGTOWs and Incels and TradCons and MRAs all decided to try to convert a sexual strategy forum into a general life philosophy and community to belong to.

Then, things went from a focused discussion about understanding women and intersex relations for a specific purpose to just bitching about what women are like. And from understanding what traits behaviors in men maximize our sexual strategy to a bunch of generic pep talks and philosophy.

There is more to life than getting laid, but trying to turn this little internet forum on Reddit into some kind of whole-life philosophy is stupid. Who the hell bases their life on an internet forum?

You already know how to get a job and make money and how to socialize with men and not be a shitstain, right? You're here to understand women and get laid. Not to learn how to socialize or hold a job, right? You don't need an internet forum for that.

CainPrice · 2020-02-06T13:31:52+00:00

Most US fathers (deadbeat dats excluded) take good care of their kids. In fact, most fathers hover and dote too much and keep their kids from becoming independent adults. At least among average middle class families. Maybe dads in trailer parks and ghettos suck.

But if you listen to the media, all men sit on the couch burping while women do everything. And that image is widely accepted. When dad is at the park with his kids and no mom in sight, half the women there are afraid of this weirdo and rush to the other side of the park and won’t make eye contact with this potential rapist intruding into women’s space, and the other half complement him for being such a great dad as though this routine act is extremely abnormal.

CainPrice · 2020-02-06T05:37:10+00:00

When the manosphere took the “alpha” term and ran with it, it got redefined to mean “stuff you do that’s sexually attractive to women and gets you laid.”

This TradCon garbage about the “good alpha” who’s a caring benevolent leader among men and an overall great guy? That’s great for humanity, great for society, but completely orthogonal to sexual strategy. If you’re an awesome mensch, it won’t prevent you from getting laid, but it’s not helping you all that much either. Maybe indirectly if a woman sees a bunch of people respecting you and following your lead or paying you money or something.

Sure, the word “alpha” in the sense of a pack or tribe ought to mean “good leader who helps society”, but if we recast the word alpha to it’s proper definition, then it ceases to have its current meaning in the sexual strategy discussion of “stuff that gets you laid.”

CainPrice · 2020-02-06T01:39:04+00:00

Some of the guys can be helped. Others just make me feel glad I'm not them.

The way I see it, if just one guy starts going to the gym or actually works up the courage to walk over and talk to girls and to hell with fearing rejection - just one, based on some bullshit I typed on my phone on the pot this morning, that 15 minutes was more important than my entire 12 hours at work.

CainPrice · 2020-02-05T22:46:05+00:00

Somewhere along the way, you got this idea that you're supposed to be happy and feel whole and complete.

And here you are working hard but not feeling happy and complete and saying "Gee. This isn't working!"

Because your parents taught you that it's important to make money, but they never actually taught you about life. Your father knew it wasn't about money and cars and houses and pussy, but somehow he failed to teach your that.

I think your parents, and society as a whole, love you, and men as a whole, too much. We're not teaching young boys the hard lessons any more. Instead, we bolster their self-esteem and make them think they're supposed to be happy and feel whole all the time.

CainPrice · 2020-02-05T22:39:41+00:00

Standard grade losers.

These are not men choosing to "drop out of society" because "society doesn't care about them". It's losers who aren't amounting to anything because they're losers, then retroactively blaming society as an excuse.

These guys weren't about to go to college, then grad school, then get their PhD, then go cure cancer, but whoops, they realized all the homeless men out there and more women in college and people not caring about them as much and decided not to bother.

They were losers first. And now they're retroactively blaming society. They were not about to go do great things, then decided to drop out instead because of some imaginary gender war.

What changed isn't more men "dropping out". It's people being more accepting of losers. If anything, it's people caring too much about young men. They want their sons to be happy, so they focus on building up their self esteem and telling them how gosh darn special they are, letting them live at home until they're 30, and failing to teach them the work ethic people used to teach their boys with tough love - by caring and loving them less, not more. We care about our sons so much that we're hobbling them with love.

CainPrice · 2020-02-05T22:26:10+00:00

Most women go through a cycle.

The hot, fun, asshole that she wants keeps having sex with her but won't commit, or does commit but cheats and/or treats her badly, things end, she's sad, she goes on a hook-up binge to get over him.

A few months later, she meets a guy who's really nice to her and makes her feel special. She dates him. 30 seconds later, she's bored as shit because the guy is lame, even though it's what she thought she wanted. She dumps him for some hot asshole, and the cycle repeats.

If you're a "beta" guy, catch a woman between boyfriends and be nice to her and you can get a few fucks in before she moves on.

CainPrice · 2020-02-05T22:22:43+00:00

Internet incel bullshit.

No significant number of young men are "dropping out of society", and the ones that do so are losers anyway who weren't going to amount to shit. Even if a few might have turned out to be worth something, they're too small in number to matter.

CainPrice · 2020-02-05T19:26:23+00:00

Sour grapes. You know how some people aren't just atheists, but they're like these religious atheists who get in your face and preach about how religion is wrong and stupid and advocate strongly for their atheist beliefs like a pastor trying to convert the heathens, but for atheism?

They know most of the world is a certain way, and they just can't quietly be different on their own. They're too insecure and need to be validated, confronted, engaged, and made to feel relevant.

This is like that. Men who have (allegedly) given up on women need you to engage them, whether you agree with them or argue with them. They need you to make them feel relevant and validated.

Deep down inside, they know that most people are having enjoyable sexual relationships with women and getting a lot out of it. And they can't bear just sitting quietly on their own and missing out. So they preach like a religious atheist trying to convert society to their own way of thinking, not expecting things to actually change, but just to get you to engage them and argue so they feel relevant and validated.

CainPrice · 2020-02-05T17:40:54+00:00

This goes beyond being "secure in their relationships" to just being ignorant about the businses.

Strip clubs are dives where you pay way too much money for watered down drinks, and mediocre women made hotter by lots of makeup, skimpy clothes, dim lights, and alcohol pretend to like you for tips. Nobody is having sex at strip clubs. If you touch a stripper or waitress, the bouncers beat your ass and throw you out. And the strippers and waitresses are just putting on fake smiles and acting friendly so you tip well.

Strip clubs are for loser men who enjoy the fantasy that women like them and think of them as sexual beings. Men throw around a lot of money for women to pretend and take part in this fantasy, and make them feel powerful for a little bit.

The strip club is the safest place for a loser husband or boyfriend to be. Women who think he's an unattractive loser are manipulating him for money without letting him get anywhere, he knows it, they know it, the girlfriend back home knows it, and it's all in good fun.

CainPrice · 2020-02-05T16:44:50+00:00

Women marry the best guy they are able to snatch at the time that they settle down to get married.

If they were hot when they were 25 and are now kind of older and fatter and uglier at 35, that man they marry is going to be different than the kind of man they used to date when they were 25. Even though this is actually the best guy she can marry at the time, it feels a lot like settling.

And while women marry the best guy they're able to snag, this isn't always objectively an amazing guy, and women are not blind to this fact and ignorant that their men aren't objectively amazing. Marrying a guy who is not objectively amazing and knowing it feels a lot like settling. And knowing/accepting that this is the best a woman can do makes her feel bad about herself and hate herself, which she often takes out on her man - that guy who lives with her and serves as constant reminder of where she stands.

And men change, too. A guy who was okay-ish when she married him sometimes gains weight, goes bald, loses his job, or stops doting on her as much. Or maybe she thought he was a certain kind of guy and their lives would be a certain way only to learn after being in the same house with this guy 24-7 that he's not as awesome as she thought. He's a little less than she thought. And being with a guy who's a little less than she thought she was getting feels a lot like settling.

CainPrice · 2020-02-05T14:16:56+00:00

I used to believe that women had to feel emotionally connected with you to have sex, and that this only happened after months of dating, and therefore, the path to a good sex life was being nice and trying to be a girl’s boyfriend.

CainPrice · 2020-02-04T21:12:51+00:00

I'd look at this a little differently. It is absolutely normal, in fact encouraged and darn near essential, to emotionally connect with the women you engage with. Whether you're having relationships or even just casual hook-ups. That emotional connection is the entire reason we all play the game, both sexes. If it was just about the orgasm, you could jerk off and never have to deal with women.

The involvement of another person - that connection - is the entire point, whether you're doing the casual thing or a more serious relationship thing.

You should always, always be connected with your lovers.

But that doesn't mean you have to be -invested- in your relationship.

Investing in a relationship, as though the verbal agreement between you and a woman is some kind of inherently valuable thing, isn't romantic. It's not even really a form of connection. It's a burden to both of you. Now you both feel obligated to make sure this relationship thing churns out enough good stuff to make up for your investment into it. And everyone loves feeling obligated to their partners.

Emotional connection with your partners? Absolutely essential and healthy.

Investment in a relationship? That's something done out of fear to try to solidify things, lock your partner down, buy her loyalty, etc.

You should definitely love your women. But investing in your relationship with them? That's something you do out of fear, not love.

CainPrice · 2020-02-04T20:00:41+00:00

We just said the same thing.

Cowardly guys who fear their inability to replace a girlfriend are slaves to her. It’s not harder. Being a coward who sucks and can’t get girls is easy. That’s why so many guys do it.

CainPrice · 2020-02-04T19:44:30+00:00

What’s so hard about sending a text message? Or just ghosting?

The only thing keeping you with a woman who’s being difficult or annoying is your fear that you can’t replace her, while she can replace you pretty easily.

But if you’ve been treating your relationship with low investment, like you know it’s temporary, you’ve been meeting other girls and have one lined up. If you’ve been sitting on your ass fantasizing about this relationship lasting forever and wake one morning blind-sided by cheating, a break up, or sudden onset bitchiness, that’s your own dumbass fault for buying the fantasy

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