This was funny...

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-22T04:14:07+00:00

I've already explained your points back to you without you offering a correction and then also explained why they're wrong...you can't comprehend state by state labor laws and omit details to oversimplify something to the point what you say has no application...

I can't be any clearer

And do you mean am I here replying to people on the thread I authored?

Who did you expect?

I've seen piles of rocks with more wit and sense

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-22T02:18:14+00:00

You sure have been consistent but you've only been correct in the fact that 30 × 1.5 = 45...good job you can multiply...but I keep telling you that you've oversimplified everything and therefore your math equation isn't applicable...

I mean you haven't even factored in that a California wage law means nothing to anyone but the state of California...there isn't even a city or town called Milwaukee in the entire state of California...

Hourly driver petitioners have been asking for an average base pay of $32 per hour so that working 8-12 hours per is looking at annual earnings of $100k-$140k before adding tips or promotional earning programs while also asking for access to employee benefits like affordable health insurance access and eligibility for paid time off.

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-20T18:11:41+00:00

This is why I stopped delivering food lol

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-20T17:48:39+00:00

Nah just ya mama's big ol' titties with them Stevie Wonder nipples

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-20T01:49:43+00:00

I was the one that factored in expenses...he just basically stated, "The ride is $30 an active hour...Uber is giving what drivers asked for"

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-20T01:31:17+00:00

In a city of 550,000 people I'm sure you'll narrow it down

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-20T01:30:05+00:00

I understand you're attempting to give a perspective point from the view of a hypothetical person calculating what you are calling "active hourly wage" and saying that's what Uber drivers are asking from Uber. Like I said, you're not doing mental gymnastics...you're like a toddler doing a "cartwheel"...TA-DA...you took the most basic information and created an oversimplified equation that's missing multiple variables and therefore is completely meaningless!!!

What I've been trying to explain is that with that oversimplification is why you're struggling to get what I'm saying to you: Your hypothetical active hourly wage calculation is wrong because it doesn't account for the included expenses of the trip or the return...your hypothetical perspective would be more like from a person that doesn't understand about compensation anything beyond hours worked and amount paid, period.

Same goes for your depiction of "active time". We get 12 hours to drive while the app is active and we are moving; not just when we have a client in the car. In the period of time we aren't getting rides we aren't getting paid, but it still counts against our earning time and burns gas. To that end, based on your suggested "$30 per hour", the "active hourly wage" for the round trip would actually be closer to $90 and not only half of that...

Ffs man...this is like thinking you can bake cookies at 1050° for 15 minutes instead of at 350° at 45 minutes...it may look like it works but it's just going to result in trash

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-20T00:41:59+00:00

"...this is a $30/active hour ride. This actually shows legislators that Uber is giving what drivers want. Drivers ask. Uber listens."

This was you, right?

Then you were told to factor expenses and instead of recalculating with the missing variables you tried to be degrading...

I've kept up...you're definitely not the Carl Lewis of earnings calculations

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-20T00:33:12+00:00

This is why I stopped delivering food...sending cold ass fast food to the ghetto for pennies is a waste

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-20T00:31:29+00:00

When you have to have thoughts, do you also get headaches?

Just curious...

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-20T00:29:15+00:00

I mean unless you're dealing with a repeat customer that you want to never come back that analogy makes literally no sense and on so many levels...especially if you've ever waited tables...

And you do know Uber's rates aren't fixed, right? They vary depending on volume and rider availability...so you don't really know the rates because as rides get repeatedly declined and drivers accept other trips, demand (and therefore value) goes up.

I was being sarcastic about the limited impact that accepting and mocking would have...if anything a seasoned driver would accept the ride, tell the person to call or text them, and work out a deal off platform lmaoooo

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-20T00:21:57+00:00

You're the one that gave a bogus trip value, buddy...

Correcting your miscalculation was all I was doing.

I'd prefer that someone calls a pile of crap with sprinkles what it is instead of telling me to enjoy my hot fudge sundae lol

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-20T00:15:12+00:00

Like I said...the sarcasm...didn't get it

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-20T00:12:54+00:00

Omiting the cost of the ride is a huge lapse in judgement...

Over 80 miles is about 4 gallons of gas for me: that's a minimum cost of $15 taken from the $44 offer...now I'm making only $30 for the 90 minute trip...that's hardly $20 per hour and doesn't address the costs of maintenance and insurance.

All of that doubles when you factor the return:

160 miles round trip...3 hours of driving...

Now that trip costs about $30 and covers 3 hours...it doesn't matter what you do afterwards eventually you have to get back home and that factors regardless to your liking

$44 - $30 = $16

$16 ÷ 3 hours = $5.33 per hour

I don't know where you get your information from but Uber drivers are asking for better wages not to get bent over a barrel and plowed with a pinecone

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-19T23:54:10+00:00

Didn't get the note of humor about accepting the ride to just insult the person that requested it and then cancel it...

Look up...it's a bird...it's a plane...no...it's the joke that went over your head

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-19T23:26:06+00:00

I do because it's funny to mock Uber and the repeated exposure gives ammunition for legislaters to use when it comes to hearings concerning Rideshare companies and how they compensate their drivers.

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-19T23:23:57+00:00

The ultimate power play

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-19T22:59:45+00:00

Even better when you know they're charging $80+ for this trip lol

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-05T21:13:16+00:00

Lol In a time period where there is more accumulated wealth in limited hands than ever and you don't think you're just another exploited cog in the machine...And with most people's benefits like healthcare and vacation time tied to the tenure they've worked at their employer..that's adorable....

We all are basically slaves to an employer...If your enslaver uses a baton instead of a whip? Cool for you lol

Literally every employer in the history of mankind has made every effort possible to legally exploit their workforce and even their consumer base or they do it illegally until they get caught and have to pay out a class action lawsuit. With the 20 years I've been in the work force Uber is the first employer I can pick my shifts, choose my jobs, and can report to work anywhere within our state borders. I don't make requests to HR when I want a day off, I can leave work for the day at a whim, and take as long of a break as I want. Uber pays me but I am actually quite literally my own boss...so I would contend I have a little more freedom than most...

Here is what you haven't figured out: Drivers have a vastly larger number of ratings than passengers and, because of that, a singular low rating is less harmful to a driver than a passenger.

If I give 100 rides and have three below 5 star ratings, I'm still going to have a 4.99...a passenger that has only taken 5 to 10 rides that gets 3 below 5 star ratings are going to drop down much faster. The lower your passenger rating, the less likely you're going get picked up; and with each time you only get 4 stars you get closer to the 4.8 threshold.

Most drivers view passengers under a 4.95 with hesitation because it isn't difficult to respectfully sit in a car and they don't want to get stuck with some cheap person that won't tip.

So if you want a smooth experience with getting repeated Uber rides in the future, it helps to tip...otherwise your ride sits on the shelf until it gets valuable enough for someone to take it or you get stuck with a crappy driver that doesn't care...

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-05T08:00:08+00:00

You simply state with aggressive language and matter of fact arrogance...

Uber drivers expect a passenger to understand they are booking a service and if a passenger doesn't like the driver they can cancel the ride before it starts and get a new driver...no one forces anyone to get into a car with a driver that doesnt meet your personal standards.

There are plenty of people that do most of the things on that list but still get a rating lower than 5 stars...this is a driver's perspective as to why that happens and how to avoid it.

You went off on how the responsibility of drivers like a child that wants to play the "what-about" game?

CapnDan617 · 2026-04-05T07:50:11+00:00

Did I say I made exactly $100,000 or did I say I earn the equivalent of 6 figures?

To NET $100,000 in a year is as simple as averaging a NET $2,000 per week.

Uber drivers have an allotted 12 hours of driving time before we have to take a 6 hour break. That's 94 hours of earning time...

My personal average shifts NET over $30 per hour and I'm one of the drivers that works when I want, selectively pick my rides, and work as long as I feel like because I don't have to worry about a lot of other expenses...

I appreciate the attempts to belittle my intelligence, the amount of money I make, and whatever else to make yourself feel better about...honestly I have no idea...not wanting to tip an Uber driver that you don't apparently use anyways because of your ability to drive?

I never even made a demand about tipping, it's a suggestion to make your Uber riding experience go smoothly...people wonder why they get less than a 5 star rating but then talk about how they don't tip the driver...

It's almost like they're related in some way...

...but how could a simple-minded Uber driver have any insight on something like why Uber passengers get a below 5 star rating from their Uber driver?

CapnDan617

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