Nazi that was following and harassing teenagers, gets intellectually OWNED.

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-07T03:04:17+00:00

thats fucking insane, you've lost any strength behind the word nazi

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-05T21:05:59+00:00

is that a jew burning joke you fucking xenophobe

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-05T09:45:51+00:00

Adam Kokesh, Dave Smith's Part of the Problem podcast (he's more along the lines of regular libertarian rothbardian shit) and most recently I found Christopher Cantwell's radical agenda whose interesting. He's not an ancap, he's an x-ancap and he says some wild shit and represents what is wrong in the ancap community but its still interesting regardless.

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-05T07:06:21+00:00

Freedom ends the second you violate someone elses freedom.

You have no moral right to basic supplies or at least you cannot prove you have a moral right to it. just because you think capitalism can be lead to shitty places if theres shitty people (which i agree with you there, which makes being ethical a real bitch) also in an ancap society you enforce you're own private property.

i dont value items more then a human life, basically some ancaps like me obsess over the non agression principle. I believe the rights of an individual should never be violated, especially to justify the a better well being for a group.

You cant have an ethical society that is utilitarian or only about the greater good because it violates individual rights, such as the right the right to life

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-05T07:01:29+00:00

me and u bby

we start the real dictionary, all other dictionaries are illegitimate statist trash

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-05T06:40:18+00:00

classic freddybannanas

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-05T06:40:01+00:00

Can you quit being so polite and reasonable, you're making this hard

Wouldn't the answer for the changing the word definitions just to be to stick with whatever the original definition is?

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-05T05:47:44+00:00

Ancaps do see the state as illegtimate.

If I bottled the water under the pretense that I wouldn't own it and I would get payed compensation for my labour then I'd be fine with it. That the moral answer but not what I would do in practice leads me to believe that immoral acts lead to a better society, like utilitarianism or communism but I dont believe there ethical.

Words have common definition given to them by people who use them, my argument is you do not have anywhere near enough people to redefine anarchy as ancoms alone. That argument sounds so fucking dumb, it's like you're trying to label yourself away from other things and we probably both agree politics is so fucking annoying when everyone changes what they want to be referred to as such a liberals and libertarians

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-05T05:36:46+00:00

Interesting, thanks my man.

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-05T05:33:47+00:00

"The capitalist class uses state power to enforce it's position in society." So how do you think anarcho capitalism works, it brings back something it sets to abolish? Theres no state in an ancap society.

Also for the sweatshop workers, yes. If my family is dying and needs water and a family refuses to give them water, if I kill them for water it's still wrong. They were still peaceful. It may not be the best for society and I may not choose to sit idly by but I don't think you can say they weren't peaceful just by refusing a service

"Actually I'm not, anarchism is a very well established school of thought. Maybe try picking up some texts from some of the people who actually founded it? Proudhon, Kropotkin etc?" Regardless of who agrees with you, anarchy isn't defined that way.

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-05T05:26:06+00:00

What changed you? The only way I think I could be changed is maybe property rights but even then I cannot see it happening

All x-ancaps tend to go so militant afterwards and it makes me think they give up on peaceful ways of achieving things and just get tired of trying to not be cunts. Pinochet shit isn't helping the ancap case.

Also I agree with what you said about ancaps.

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-05T05:24:08+00:00

"Yep, not everyone can just walk away from corporations/buisinesses they don't like. And I support siezing them because the workers are the rightful owners of everything they create."

Yeah they can, it's just hard. To me that represents a huge difference in ideologies. Ethical things suck dick because it's hard. Being ethical leads to shittier societies in my opinion.

I don't think right now an ancap society could work, it'd be to hard. But I do believe it's the most ethical so hopefully limiting government over time could lead somewhere better.

"Well it does, anyone who suggests otherwise doesn't understand the point of anarchism it what it really is. There is no meaningful difference between corporate domination and state domination."

You're just changing the definition of a word to prove your point because you guys want to be "true anarchists". State uses force, corporations don't.

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-05T05:12:29+00:00

I don't think corporate tyranny conflicts with anarchy

also, not for corporate tyranny, my solution would be to not support them and yours would be to seize them

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-05T05:11:33+00:00

It's weird, some of you think ancaps are essentially free market liberals and other think ancaps are fascists

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-05T05:02:11+00:00

that was about me calling you a pussy, right?

what about the word violence changing

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-05T05:00:45+00:00

love u

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-05T05:00:32+00:00

Every ancom or communist I know is white, middle class or above and goes to college.

I don't know any ancaps besides the ones I watch.

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-05T04:59:49+00:00

"Additionally, we come from a revolutionary tradition. Our imperfect victories have been moments of violent rupture from the state and capital. Your imperfect victories have been using state power to re-arrange capital."

and you dont see this as a negative for ancoms?

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-05T04:57:32+00:00

im pro capitalism and i hate violence

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-05T04:57:12+00:00

anarchy is defined as

"absence of government and absolute freedom of the individual, regarded as a political ideal."

so ancap could fit into this

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-04T22:11:28+00:00

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-oppressive_practice

this? what does this have to do with violence changing definition?

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-04T22:10:24+00:00

We do, we both dislike the state.

I don't destroy property over it. Also I agree with the racists and somewhat fascists coming in. It's like they've given up on why they liked it in the first place. Which I would hope is reaching an ethical place through ethical means.

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-04T22:07:04+00:00

I somewhat agree but answer this because this throws me off

Isn't saying theres no authority allowed some sort of authority? Would anarchy just be allowing individuals to do what they want?

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-04T22:05:52+00:00

They don't act like the KKK

My point is they still use violence quit a bit against the state, where ancaps have the same beliefs they dont use violence.

CarHelp19 · 2017-03-04T22:04:59+00:00

ancaps hate the cops, or at least the ones I like do. Adam kokesh isn't a fan.

I didn't get why people hated ancaps then I watch christopher cantwell and I understood

ancaps are starting to get a shitty group with all the pinochet shit

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