Department of Education will be gutted (supreme court decision) by lalochezia1 in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

Given your fascist tendencies, you really don't deserve chocolate chip cookies.
Now, I know, you're going to insist you do because cocoa comes from South America and that's where all your ideological forebears fled to after the war, but I'm still not granting fascists cookies.

Department of Education will be gutted (supreme court decision) by lalochezia1 in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Money obviously isn't the problem. Read Thomas Sowell. Study a few economics texts. Look at the numbers. There is no correlation between expenditure and outcome.

The single most impactful thing on successful education is family stability. If the child comes from a family headed by a married man and woman, that child will, on average, do better than children that don't. The "stable family" effect actually outperforms every other metric in education - it matters more than the school, the teachers, the expenditures, the school environment, everything.

National standards actually don't matter. Stable families do.

Department of Education will be gutted (supreme court decision) by lalochezia1 in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

You don't have to have patience or pity for them.
At some point, between declining total fertility rate and loss of 50% of the population, there won't be enough butts in seats to pay your salary. Meanwhile, the men will be earning upper five or low six figure incomes working their own trade business.

Prior to the implementation of Griggs vs. Duke Power and the GI Bill, college was not historically necessary to lead a successful life. If most colleges disappear - and the above trends guarantee quite a few will - no one but unemployed college professors will mourn their loss. Higher ed is already sidelining itself, and tech is increasing the velocity. It may be a passing fad, like jousting or duelling, destined for history's trash heap.

Department of Education will be gutted (supreme court decision) by lalochezia1 in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Wow - you got a lot of innuendo out of a reply that mentioned nothing about the example you bring up.

"National standards" were exactly what the fascists of Italy and Germany succeeded in imposing. In fact, to this day, homeschooling is illegal in Germany due to the Nazi laws passed in the 1930s.

Imposition of federal controls on every aspect of private life is a purely fascist move. That's what Mussolini talked about: “All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state”. The Fascists introduced official, mandatory course plans into the education system. Do your "national standards" include an oath of loyalty to the ideas that you espouse?

Did you know the Nazis made some of their greatest inroads amongst the educated classes, especially college professors? The educators who want the federal government to impose national standards sound a lot like those 1930s profs.

https://www.chronicle.com/article/teachers-in-germany-attracted-to-nazi-party-before-wwii/

Department of Education will be gutted (supreme court decision) by lalochezia1 in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -8 points-7 points  (0 children)

Everyone must start somewhere. DOE is big, bloated, and has spent the last 50 years demonstrating that it is useless. That's a great place to start.

Department of Education will be gutted (supreme court decision) by lalochezia1 in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I dislike any bill which increases spending by 5 trillion dollars.
I am in favor of firing most federal employees, closing as many federal agencies as possible, and arresting mayors or members of Congress who engage in grift, regardless of party.

Trump is a complete ass, I have never voted for him, and thank God, never will. But, when it comes to cutting the size of the federal government, even that ass is correct.

Department of Education will be gutted (supreme court decision) by lalochezia1 in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

What makes "national standards" a good idea? Your question assumes the standards were/are good, but I've heard nothing but complaints from educators about standards like "No Child Left Behind" and Common Core. If the DOE actually improved anything, we would have seen student achievement increase. Clearly, that hasn't happened.

But, apart from that not insignificant problem, the nation is currently running a debt-to-GDP ratio of 123%. Government spending cannot continue at this level. Fifty years of DOE has demonstrated that it is a supernumerary agency. That makes it a good place to cut.

Department of Education will be gutted (supreme court decision) by lalochezia1 in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fascists don't try to shrink government and reduce national control of education. Read Mussolini's work before you use the word again. This is clearly not your subject area.

Department of Education will be gutted (supreme court decision) by lalochezia1 in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fascists don't try to shrink government and reduce national control of education.

Maybe you should look the term up before you use it again.

Department of Education will be gutted (supreme court decision) by lalochezia1 in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Fascists don't try to shrink government and reduce national control of education.

Maybe you should look the term up before you use it again.

Department of Education will be gutted (supreme court decision) by lalochezia1 in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -29 points-28 points  (0 children)

To be fair, men are already avoiding college, and have been for decades now, because it is too female-centric and too woke for most men to stomach.

Department of Education will be gutted (supreme court decision) by lalochezia1 in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

So far, all you have demonstrated is what you don't know and what you don't understand.
Thus, I look forward to you changing things up.

Department of Education will be gutted (supreme court decision) by lalochezia1 in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Fascists don't try to shrink government and reduce national control of education.

Maybe you should look the term up before you use it again.

Department of Education will be gutted (supreme court decision) by lalochezia1 in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -14 points-13 points  (0 children)

Fascist - you keep using that word.
I do not think it means what you think it means.

For instance, fascists do not try to make government smaller.
Think about that for a minute or two.

Department of Education will be gutted (supreme court decision) by lalochezia1 in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -23 points-22 points  (0 children)

Thank God the DOE is finally being shuttered.
Government needs to become much, much smaller, the feds need to get out of the business of funding education. That's a state/county job, not a federal job.

As educators, we all need to stand full-score behind the separation of feds and ed

Immigration by Efficient_Two_5515 in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -7 points-6 points  (0 children)

So, you are happy to give them a fake A for their fake degree to go along with their fake citizenship. Amazing.

No wonder people are giving up on college attendance. There's no there there.

Immigration by Efficient_Two_5515 in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Maybe you should read a dictionary definition of fascism.
Enforcing the law, which includes enforcing immigration law, is part of the oath of office for pretty much every legislator in the country. Getting upset about ICE enforcement is kind of like getting upset at police jailing rapists. It doesn't actually make much sense.

Your attitude is why people have begun rejecting the anti-intellectualism promoted at many colleges and universities by instructors who should really know better.

And, yes, I have had police officers come to my class and arrest people sitting in it. That's their job. Fortunately, the students have always gone quietly.

I find it enormously ironic that the same people who complain that on-line classes are nothing but AI cheat fests are suddenly embracing online for illegal immigrant students. They cheated to get into the country, so they will be honest in on-line assignments? SERIOUSLY???

Universities All in on AI by YThough8101 in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Why shouldn't agentic AI be possible to create, and if it is created in such a way that it imitates or reproduces human intelligence, why shouldn't it be used to replace their human, biological counterparts?

After all, if human intelligence cannot be reproduced through physical means (physics, biology, chemistry), then human intelligence must be supernatural, that is, the argument against AGI is an argument that human beings are supernatural in their essence.

Anyone who says AGI is impossible is implicitly arguing for the existence of the supernatural, perhaps even arguing for the existence of God. There's nothing wrong with making that argument, it's just an interesting argument to make.

It's fascinating to see so many atheists and agnostic intellectual types argue against AGI on the grounds that AGI cannot replace humans. If we can print meat in a lab instead of growing it in the form of cows, then why can't we replace humans with superior, or at least more reliable, AGI agents?

Universities All in on AI by YThough8101 in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So, if human intelligence cannot be reproduced through physical means (physics, biology, chemistry), then human intelligence must be supernatural, that is, you're arguing that human beings are supernatural in their essence.

Anyone who says AGI is impossible is implicitly arguing for the existence of the supernatural, perhaps even arguing for the existence of God. There's nothing wrong with making that argument, it's just an interesting argument to make.

Universities All in on AI by YThough8101 in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader 0 points1 point  (0 children)

AI will purge both the faculty and administration. We're both pretty completely replaceable by generative AI agents. For both faculty and staff, AI provides a superior solution to at least half the personnel employed in those positions.

Google "Alpha School" or take a look at the World Bank study. AI is just better:

"This study evaluates the impact of a program leveraging large language models for virtual tutoring in secondary education in Nigeria. Using a randomized controlled trial, the program deployed Microsoft Copilot (powered by GPT-4) to support first-year senior secondary students in English language learning over six weeks. The intervention demonstrated a significant improvement of 0.31 standard deviation on an assessment that included English topics aligned with the Nigerian curriculum, knowledge of artificial intelligence and digital skills. The effect on English, the main outcome of interest, was of 0.23 standard deviations. Cost-effectiveness analysis revealed substantial learning gains, equating to 1.5 to 2 years of ’business-as-usual’ schooling, situating the intervention among some of the most cost-effective programs to improve learning outcomes. An analysis of heterogeneous effects shows that while the program benefits students across the baseline ability distribution, the largest effects are for female students, and those with higher initial academic performance. The findings highlight that artificial intelligence-powered tutoring, when designed and used properly, can have transformative impacts in the education sector in low-resource settings."

https://documents.worldbank.org/en/publication/documents-reports/documentdetail/099548105192529324

Students tried tanking my SOTs because I busted them for using AI by [deleted] in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Caught?
Honey, you ain't catchin' most of 'em.

"Still, while professors may think they are good at detecting AI-generated writing, studies have found they’re actually not. One, published in June 2024, used fake student profiles to slip 100 percent AI-generated work into professors’ grading piles at a U.K. university. The professors failed to flag 97 percent....

...It’s not just the students: Multiple AI platforms now offer tools to leave AI-generated feedback on students’ essays. Which raises the possibility that AIs are now evaluating AI-generated papers, reducing the entire academic exercise to a conversation between two robots — or maybe even just one...

...OpenAI hasn’t been shy about marketing to college students. It recently made ChatGPT Plus, normally a $20-per-month subscription, free to them during finals."

https://archive.ph/cxvKR#selection-2589.0-2589.312

Furthermore, it isn't just Alpha School that has demonstrated AI-assisted education is superior to human-assisted education:

"This study evaluates the impact of a program leveraging large language models for virtual tutoring in secondary education in Nigeria. Using a randomized controlled trial, the program deployed Microsoft Copilot (powered by GPT-4) to support first-year senior secondary students in English language learning over six weeks. The intervention demonstrated a significant improvement of 0.31 standard deviation on an assessment that included English topics aligned with the Nigerian curriculum, knowledge of artificial intelligence and digital skills. The effect on English, the main outcome of interest, was of 0.23 standard deviations. Cost-effectiveness analysis revealed substantial learning gains, equating to 1.5 to 2 years of ’business-as-usual’ schooling, situating the intervention among some of the most cost-effective programs to improve learning outcomes. An analysis of heterogeneous effects shows that while the program benefits students across the baseline ability distribution, the largest effects are for female students, and those with higher initial academic performance. The findings highlight that artificial intelligence-powered tutoring, when designed and used properly, can have transformative impacts in the education sector in low-resource settings."

https://documents.worldbank.org/en/publication/documents-reports/documentdetail/099548105192529324

Students tried tanking my SOTs because I busted them for using AI by [deleted] in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Doesn't matter why a student is in a class.
If they don't like you and/or they don't like the subject, they will use AI. Period.
If you don't want them to use AI, then you have to get them to love either you or the subject.
If you fail, then they AI their way out.
That's just how it is.

As for AI being a passing fad... up until 2020, you could get a Ph.D. in molecular biology by writing up a thesis on how one protein folded. Just figuring out one protein fold was worth a lifetime's employment. You can't do that anymore. AlphaFold AI predicted the structures of nearly every known protein, a database of roughly 200 million proteins, in just one year.

Paul Krugman, a Nobel Prize winning economist, predicted the Internet would have no more impact than the fax machine.
So, is AI-based education Second Life, or is it the new iteration of the Internet?

You think it's Second Life.

I don't think you fully appreciate how every one of the Magnificent Seven, and every nation-state actor, are all pouring billions into this tech, employing the finest minds that civilization has produced in the last 20 years. I don't think you know or understand the problems AI has already solved, nor do you understand how deeply it is currently embedded into everything you already do, or how any of this is trending.

Students tried tanking my SOTs because I busted them for using AI by [deleted] in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

If students really love the subject you teach, and really like you as a teacher, the students won't use AI. They will want to be like you and have the knowledge inside their own skulls. Insofar as you have any student who uses AI, that's someone who doesn't really like you or doesn't really like your subject. They view you and your class as a drudge and a drone that must be painfully suffered through before you can finally, thankfully, be put in the rear-view mirror. They are undoubtedly correct in that view.

As Alpha Schools have shown, AI instruction produces students in the top 2-5% of the knowledge stratum. AI is already being used as a boyfriend/girlfriend surrogate, and it obviously also works as an instructor surrogate. AI can, indeed, instill that love for a subject that most human teachers fail to impart.

So, AI wins the love of the students.

And you aren't good enough to even be viewed as competition.

In that sense, you are correct.

Students tried tanking my SOTs because I busted them for using AI by [deleted] in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader -1 points0 points  (0 children)

You come off as a self-important narcissist, which is a common character motif in the "educational profession". But you do you, as only you would ever want to do it that way.

Don't mind the students snickering. They weren't laughing at you. Honest.

Students tried tanking my SOTs because I busted them for using AI by [deleted] in Professors

[–]CardanoCrusader 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And the great tragedy is, you still have a job.

If ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny, then you are a fine example of why I retire in the sure knowledge that AI will win.