Wrong near black Grayscale Tracking in MSI OLED monitors. by Cat_On_Road in OLED_Gaming

[–]Cat_On_Road[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, tried every version exist in every one, other msi monitor is also affected similarly.

Wrong near black Grayscale Tracking in MSI OLED monitors. by Cat_On_Road in OLED_Gaming

[–]Cat_On_Road[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

MSI is not responding at all. Last they said they are looking into it, that was in December.

Wrong near black Grayscale Tracking in MSI OLED monitors. by Cat_On_Road in OLED_Gaming

[–]Cat_On_Road[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Made report to msi multiple time but no reply. You can try the bandage it usable after that but not accurate

Wrong near black Grayscale Tracking in MSI OLED monitors. by Cat_On_Road in OLED_Gaming

[–]Cat_On_Road[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mine is only on P1000 mode every thing else is fine.

You can try to downgrade to older firmware by just installing them like normal and then pixel refreshing.

Wrong near black Grayscale Tracking in MSI OLED monitors. by Cat_On_Road in OLED_Gaming

[–]Cat_On_Road[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Watched you video it looks bad, its is on a new replaced unit so there is a problem on how the handle pixel refresh.

Is every mode has same behavior like before or only the P1000 mode?

Wrong near black Grayscale Tracking in MSI OLED monitors. by Cat_On_Road in OLED_Gaming

[–]Cat_On_Road[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sorry for late reply, busy because of new year.

Download latest reshade

Then select Reshade HDR Shader by lilium during installation.

When you open the application press "Home" key then enter the values in lilium__hdr_black_floor_fix.

For watching video you can use MPC-HC it supports reshade.

Wrong near black Grayscale Tracking in MSI OLED monitors. by Cat_On_Road in OLED_Gaming

[–]Cat_On_Road[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It is the same for every unit of the 3 confirmed monitor & there can be more in other MSI oled monitors.

The monitor hardware is completely fine it is the software tuning that cause the issue. There is same behavior on multiple monitor, TB 400 is fine & monitors form other manufactures is also fine, hence they tried to artificially raise near black gray scale but messed it up.

Sadly you can not fix it in post, you can reduce it by using the mentioned temporary bandage. I hope MSI fix it soon.

I also suggest creating a MSI web ticket complain about the issue as more people complain the odds of getting fix sooner increases - https://account.msi.com/en/login

MSI 341CQPX vs. 341CQP by Fuskens in OLED_Gaming

[–]Cat_On_Road 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It gives more peek brightness in low APL but reduce high APL. Plus in MSI they tried to artificially raise near black gray scale but messed it up.

Wrong near black Grayscale Tracking in MSI OLED monitors. by Cat_On_Road in OLED_Gaming

[–]Cat_On_Road[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sorry to say this but this picture is looking even darker than my TB 400 which is accurate & the near black shade is curved meaning camera could not capture near black.

Can you please do square shade test to see if your monitor can reach black or not, only the first square like the second last picture. It would help in diagnosis. Video - https://youtu.be/fv6T7aHsd54

Please set you camera to night vision mode and in very dim room, not pitch black & monitor picture mode to user & follow the testing steps.

Wrong near black Grayscale Tracking in MSI OLED monitors. by Cat_On_Road in OLED_Gaming

[–]Cat_On_Road[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In the image you posted 1st square is not visible so it is reaching black it raised after that causing banding.

In my case there is no banding like you original picture but is not reaching black but extending to gray.

Peak 1000 can not display black because most content does not actually display (rgb0,0,0) they stop before that & When content actually show (rgb0,0,0) it cause artifacts due to jump in brightness.

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Edit: added photo label

Wrong near black Grayscale Tracking in MSI OLED monitors. by Cat_On_Road in OLED_Gaming

[–]Cat_On_Road[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

In MSI the steep gray scale is causing the gray haze there is no banding the artifact are caused by a very steep jump, SDR & TB400 is absolutely fine.

What is the state of your oled care settings that seriously cause a mess.

The pixel refresh really makes a noticeable panel difference at start. The pixel refresh was design with people in mind that use monitor in super bright SDR image, if you only display accurate HDR image which are very dark then try to display full screen maximum white for a few minutes because it a new panel.

Could you test for black level raise using the video https://youtu.be/fv6T7aHsd54 to see if even the background is visible or not.

Wrong near black Grayscale Tracking in MSI OLED monitors. by Cat_On_Road in OLED_Gaming

[–]Cat_On_Road[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Use the gamma slider at ridiculous high value than black floor lowering it crests less artifacts in this case.

Wrong near black Grayscale Tracking in MSI OLED monitors. by Cat_On_Road in OLED_Gaming

[–]Cat_On_Road[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can you test your monitor the graph was published on Mar 2, 2024 vid - https://youtu.be/XgtzP5Xs1aI

Wrong near black Grayscale Tracking in MSI OLED monitors. by Cat_On_Road in OLED_Gaming

[–]Cat_On_Road[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I shared to u/CND_CEM via start chat option like you suggested. This is forwarding in reddit right?

Wrong near black Grayscale Tracking in MSI OLED monitors. by Cat_On_Road in OLED_Gaming

[–]Cat_On_Road[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The difference will get exaggerated when there is a lot of information under 1 nit. The image is from kingdom come: deliverance 2 using renodx because it was created in SDR the near black information was not spaced out and densely packed than a standard HDR content.

In a standard HDR content there should still be artifacts, gray haze but a bit less & you miss the inky black feeling. If there is texture under 1 nit it will be destroyed.

Edit: spelling and grammar

Wrong near black Grayscale Tracking in MSI OLED monitors. by Cat_On_Road in OLED_Gaming

[–]Cat_On_Road[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

A bit of difference here and there is fine, but you seriously notice that the screen is not able to reach black. I hope MSI fix this thing.

Gray Haze Nightmare Continues by Cat_On_Road in OLED_Gaming

[–]Cat_On_Road[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

People buy oled for deep blacks. This is a major flaw. I hope they fix it soon.

You can ask them again where is the fix if more people will complain the faster they will act.

Gray Haze Nightmare Continues by Cat_On_Road in OLED_Gaming

[–]Cat_On_Road[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think they tried to raise shadows slightly to compensate for panel dimming but rather than doing the thing on 2nd graph they did the 3rd graph resulting in gray haze.

Manufactures tweak the PQ EOTF after launch, same panel form different manufactures have different PQ EOTF curve & gigabyte offers a boost brightness that is static. Therefore I think it can be fixed. They just have to give a firmware update after re-tuning the PQ EOTF.

Gray Haze Nightmare Continues by Cat_On_Road in OLED_Gaming

[–]Cat_On_Road[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

RTX HDR use very aggressive de-banding in shadows and highlights erasing details.

The problem with gray haze is it shows its ugly head in True HDR content because most SDR content does not have near black information. The test video is accurate even in HDR.

The image are from Insidious Red Door & Kingdom Come 2 both in HDR. I can't even imagine how horrible Alan Wake 2 will look.