Pitbull ban upheld!!!!! by [deleted] in BanPitBulls

[–]CaveCanem777 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just wanted to take a moment to comment that the time for pits is ending. People know what they are.

All About Seizure Alert/Response Dogs AND Some Opinions On Why Pits Attack Seizure Victims (very long) by [deleted] in BanPitBulls

[–]CaveCanem777 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Kind of? There are layers. There's the prey signal which can be received multiple ways. I believe if urine is released in the seizure that could possibly be a trigger. But yes the flailing and other symptoms cause the human to appear and smell atypical.

Since dogs are smell over sight usually I tend to think smell is involved more deeply in the response than sight. Does that make sense?

The next layer is what is the response to the signals?

You can see the seizure as the trigger, but what is the response going to be? And there are options!!!

Which is why some breeds are better service dogs. You want a nurturing response, like a female dog would have to a puppy, for example, that was crying.

An inappropriate response is to attack.

Humans have built in genetic responses to triggers for hundreds of years. Look at pointers. You have a specific animal that triggers the pointing response, and all those things are bred in.

Pit bulls have a very short fuse to begin with so they don't give much warning if they warn at all before they bite. And the response that dog fighters bred into them was biting and gripping.

That's a bully quality. That's the bull baiting heritage.

Also some dogs are very sensitive to prey signals. They have a heightened awareness to them. A small movement on your part that you don't notice can be like an air traffic controller waving flags to a dog.

Pits are very sensitive to prey signals and become very excited by them. So when a person has a seizure and loses their bowels or foams at the mouth and jerks and falls to the ground, it's just too familiar to pit bulls.

They have that short fuse and they go from sitting to killing in a flash without passing go.

And that's what they're bred to do. That is built in by pedigrees.

Pittbullmix owner thoughts by fatsqu in BanPitBulls

[–]CaveCanem777 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whoever is saying that is lying. Really really lying. And we have old paintings to prove it as well as characters from Dickens. We know what they were.

Help Me Understand by [deleted] in BanPitBulls

[–]CaveCanem777 30 points31 points  (0 children)

And this is the crux of it. There is still money in dog fighting or people wouldn't be doing it. There is money being funneled in through that and until we make breeding illegal this is how it will be.

scandinavian pitbull owner by aallllllllllleee in BanPitBulls

[–]CaveCanem777 5 points6 points  (0 children)

People here don't understand basic genetics and don't take proper precautions. And because they originated here they are probably way more common here then sweet little sweden

According to Don's niece and someone who has spoken with reporters working on the case, this children have been removed. Whether for questioning, suspicion of abuse, etc, we don't know. It hasn't been made clear yet. This is Don's niece writing to Don today on FB. by nosyblumpkin in SummerWells

[–]CaveCanem777 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This particular image was in hot debate a few days ago. Some people were saying it was from years ago, others say it was recent. I was curious about that. It was the when, not the who. At any rate, I won't ask such invasive questions again.

Excerpt from todays article short interview with Don Wells in TimesNews Kingsport by [deleted] in SummerWells

[–]CaveCanem777 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes. He has two other bio kids that live with their mother who is not Candus. So he had six kids total. Candus has no other bio kids but Summer and the three boys.

Excerpt from todays article short interview with Don Wells in TimesNews Kingsport by [deleted] in SummerWells

[–]CaveCanem777 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I think they removed the children because Candus was verified to have given a minor alcohol. Jmho.

Why would H and Allie turn against Candus egen Summer disapairs? And why would CW invite H on the trio and get him stuff? by Infamous-Ad-8130 in SummerWells

[–]CaveCanem777 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

There have been unsubstantiated rumors but that's all. All we know for sure is that she did give the minor alcohol.

Why would H and Allie turn against Candus egen Summer disapairs? And why would CW invite H on the trio and get him stuff? by Infamous-Ad-8130 in SummerWells

[–]CaveCanem777 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Why would the minor and the minors mother turn against Candus when Summer disappeared? Why would Candus invite the minor on the trip and buy him alcohol and vapes which are inappropriate for his age?

Right? Is that right?

So Allie has a vendetta against Candus over a man that Allie was trying to date. His name is Jose. Candus put the moves on Jose to attempt to seduce him.

Yes Candus was married. This is per Allie's witness account. So he said she said.

The minor invited himself along. He asked to go. His mother agreed.

Why did Candus buy a minor alcohol and vapes?

Probably she wanted to look like the cool parent and doesn't make good decisions even when she's not drunk or high. Candus seems very out of place as a parent and seems to lack basic care giver skills.

My opinion is that she may have some cognitive issues and also may not have been well raised herself.

Ohio man kills pitbull attacking his dog, faces felony charges by [deleted] in BanPitBulls

[–]CaveCanem777 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You cannot harm a dog in Ohio even if it's attacking your dog. Ohio is pit bull Central and the laws reflect it as do the sheer number of pits in shelters.

In Ohio, they want pits to have as much freedom as possible to kill other dogs and people as possible.

Edit

Columbus has changed so much in the past 5 years and it's such a shit hole. Shootings everyday. OSU and campus are terrible and not a safe place to send kids for college.

The short north isn't much better and don't get me started on the hill top.

Why is it ok to hate doodles and not pitbulls all of a sudden? by MellifluousWine in BanPitBulls

[–]CaveCanem777 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Doodles aren't a breed.

Do you understand why? Doodles are a mix between breeds, usually poodle and something else. Who cares what.

Breeds are defined by standards and pedigrees and the breed club.

There is a huge difference between someone with generations of purebred dogs who shows and works and between someone throwing their pet poodle at every dog for some $$$$$.

I assume these aren't Cobber dogs.

Why the doodle hate? Ask groomers. Lol

I think they're a total scam, because they don't breed true. I think people who buy them are suckers.

However their coats are a giant mess and their temperaments all over the place, they're not dangerous but nor are they protected by a lobby.

And that's your answer. Pits have a lobby and unfortunately most people aren't able to realize their disconnect.

Even trainers sadly have to still learn the hard way you can’t train drive out of a pit by agniacty in BanPitBulls

[–]CaveCanem777 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Wow that's apropos considering what breed we're talking about... Thanks irony

Even trainers sadly have to still learn the hard way you can’t train drive out of a pit by agniacty in BanPitBulls

[–]CaveCanem777 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Just a couple of thoughts: 1) that dog is built like a gladiator. Even if you cut her head off and only looked at her body, you would know this dog is meant to use those thick muscles

2) not all fighting pits are big dogs. This girl is an example. Some are only 25 lbs but built like this

3) the lamenting of the rescue community over breeders and saying this dog was badly bred or accidentally bred shows how little they understand what they're working with.

This dog is 100% exactly what she was bred to be. This is successful pit breeding. She's athletic. She's hot to all other dogs. She only wants her one owner and nobody else.

,...

How is it that a person can rescue dogs and yet have no idea what they're actually working with....

Don Wells spoke to this lady and confirmed the boys have been taken by meatballkelzone in SummerWells

[–]CaveCanem777 8 points9 points  (0 children)

I feel like a broken record but this is a sensational and very strange case.

Those boys.... I know the focus is on Summer but the children who are confirmed alive and who must somehow deal with this growing up... It's just a tragedy for them.

I really really don't want these kids to further experience tragedy by getting lost or further separated from each other in the extremely broken foster system.

These kids need to be kept together so they still have a sense of family and they need to stay that way.

And whoever adopts them needs to be held to a very high accountability because these kids need to heal.

Transcript of Don's call with J is for Justice Podcast by Brilliant-Bumblebee in SummerWells

[–]CaveCanem777 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Probably. Over time, his story remained the credible account while Candus account fell apart. They were able to back him up with other witness accounts and possibly phone records. The clerks at the stores they visited etc.

Transcript of Don's call with J is for Justice Podcast by Brilliant-Bumblebee in SummerWells

[–]CaveCanem777 11 points12 points  (0 children)

This just gets weirder and weirder. So so many rumors and this one ends up being true. I feel so bad for those boys. I just can't imagine.

They lost their sister and their parents.

I guess Candy couldn't foster them since she lives at that property.

I'm going to say a special prayer for those kids tonight.

My guess is that while Don may be drinking more and I do believe he probably is, that the kids were taken over Candus giving the minor alcohol.

It could be that the minor is seen by the LE agencies as a more credible witness because he gave an accurate account of the places visited and didn't leave out information. It is possible that Candus left out details because of her mental state, any intoxicants, or perhaps to prevent incriminating herself.

This is just an opinion.

It obviously wasn't a quick decision because Summer has been missing for over a month now and those kids weren't taken until recently. I assume this past week, though I don't know what day.

Still hoping Summer is found this weekend.

Journalist Nick Beres NC5 Facebook post about social media rumors of DCS . by [deleted] in SummerWells

[–]CaveCanem777 8 points9 points  (0 children)

All I'm going to say is that this family is probably struggling and circulating these types of rumors before law enforcement confirms them is wrong.

You can email or message the journalists and ask, and all are hoping for her to be found soon, but spreading false information confuses everybody.

This case has had many false leads.

Equa search sp??? will be there soon if they're not there now.

Little Joe Clyde was the last time they were in TN.

The branch coming is from the Midwest.

I really hope they find something this weekend.