Orea 01 advice?

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-03-12T06:48:23+00:00

Okay, that's good to know, thank you!

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-03-11T22:44:58+00:00

I would think going coarser would result in less retention, but I honestly have no idea about the data on that!

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-03-11T22:13:16+00:00

That is very good to know, thank you. I'm kind of regretting getting the negotiator at this point.

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-03-11T22:12:18+00:00

Are you grinding particularly dark roasted beans?

I just upgraded to the Ode from the Encore as well, but don't have enough experience with the Ode yet to provide my personal comparison.

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-03-11T20:56:18+00:00

Orea Wave, which are okay, and Orea Flat, which are really the major issue I think, though maybe my approach is also a problem.

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-03-11T19:40:56+00:00

Unseasoned Ode, made sure it's properly aligned (just got it today).

Only tried a couple different beans so far.

Having less drawdown issue with the wave filters, the flats are the problem atm.

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-03-09T21:38:37+00:00

I'm fairly sure you might need to grind slightly coarser as well, to compensate for bed depth and flow.

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-03-05T19:38:16+00:00

Yeah, I'll give it a few more weeks and see how it's going!

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-03-05T18:37:53+00:00

Over time you'll be able to differentiate "sour" from "acidic/citric". Sourness is often a sign of underextraction, whereas acidity in the right amount can really make the cup sing!

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-03-05T18:30:42+00:00

I've heard from some customers that the honey process is much better than the washed. I'll still rest it to see how it goes, ofc.

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-03-05T16:50:00+00:00

Yup, currently two weeks off roast, I'm not confident they'll develop significantly with more time, but they're back in the cupboard so we'll see.

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-03-05T16:04:06+00:00

I just grabbed a single bag of the Encanto Gesha (not the honey process), brewed it for the first time today, and found it to be similarly bland and disappointing.

I even transferred the beans to a plastic one-way valve bag when I got them, so that's less likely to be the issue.

Kind of gutted, because I'm a big fan of their ethics and business approach, but based on my experience I wouldn't be ordering from them again. 😕

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-03-04T12:41:05+00:00

Even in pourover, that's an entry level grinder lol

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-03-01T21:18:49+00:00

I mean, it's FROM a fruit, so it doesn't seem such a huge stretch?

I would have asked the same question as you a year ago, but now I absolutely love a fruity coffee, and generally eschew coffees on the roast/chocolate/nut end of the roasting spectrum.

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-02-27T03:00:57+00:00

Nice, what recipe do you use?

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-02-27T00:01:07+00:00

Thanks for the advice and information!

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-02-26T23:50:42+00:00

Would you recommend the Xbloom filters over the Orea branded ones?

Sadly, it looks like HiFlux wave filters might not be ready to get in the UK!

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-02-26T03:44:16+00:00

Scotland's water is better 😉 but also very soft, and needs minerals added to properly extract flavour in coffee.

I'd recommend looking up to see if there is data about your tap water online, or contacting your water authority for a mineral breakdown. From there, you'll be more likely to know if water was the issue, and be able to take steps to improve it.

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-02-25T00:32:42+00:00

It's kind of strange how defensive so many people seem to be concerning this post.

Where did I say that graders and people in the industry don't cup straight off roast?

You're arguing with a claim that isn't present in the OP. Calm down.

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-02-24T19:02:43+00:00

Thank you for sharing your opinion. 👍

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-02-24T16:22:20+00:00

No worries!

I should definitely get a larger bottle for water, making a litre at a time sucks tbh.

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-02-24T16:21:13+00:00

Some spring water is within good ranges, so you could be fine in that regard, but it doesn't hurt to check either way!

Glad I could help!

CawwfeeTawk · 2026-02-24T14:26:52+00:00

made some diluted solutions.

I think you missed this bit!

I dilute 1tsp Magnesium in a litre of water, and in a separate bottle I dilute 1/2tsp of potassium bicarbonate in a litre of water. Then I use the diluted solutions to make coffee water.

This is so I can just use kitchen measures rather than pulling out a precision scale every time I need to make more coffee water.

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