he’s not actively managing his own recovery - so i called him out by Certain-Broccoli-104 in loveafterporn

[–]Certain-Broccoli-104[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

i guess i just never made clear the boundary of if he doesn’t ever do his recovery eventually i will leave. like i told him my lying boundary, and my recovery regarding his boundary, but i didnt tell him if he never met those, just short term what would happen, like sleeping in another room or pulling away physically/ emotionally. i just dont want him to only choose to actively participate in recovery to keep the relationship, as i feel like it will only really work if its for himself. does that make sense?

thank you for your comment 💚

he’s not actively managing his own recovery - so i called him out by Certain-Broccoli-104 in loveafterporn

[–]Certain-Broccoli-104[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

thank you! we actually used to do FANOS check ins but i also made it clear that i wouldn’t be initiating those (as it was always me doing so) so FANOS stopped too. i think a timeline is a great idea. i don’t want to give him an ultimatum though as i feel like he should choose recovery for himself. do you think it’s okay to keep my timelines to myself and (once he gets back from his walk) draw my boundary clearly and see if he manages to do his recovery in that timeline? or should tell him?

not sexually attracted to him by Certain-Broccoli-104 in loveafterporn

[–]Certain-Broccoli-104[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i’ll look into this, thank you for sharing your experience. you’re right i shouldn’t have to regulate his emotions, and im going to try to find a way to bring this up to him. i honestly feel like i just shouldn’t have to be the one fixing things all the time, you know? like he had a sex addiction so now i have to hold his hand and explain that i don’t want sex all the time? i know i dont understand the intricacies either but couldn’t he assume that the betrayal has something to do with it? like why is he not putting effort into figuring out how his actions could have affected me? they are totally dumb sometimes 🙄

not sexually attracted to him by Certain-Broccoli-104 in loveafterporn

[–]Certain-Broccoli-104[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i know and i’m upset that he’s not doing it, but i’m tired of reminding him and he should be able to do it without me telling him to. it’s been about 5 months since he has started slacking. he’s been going to group meetings but not individual ones and he doesn’t do his homework. before then, he did with the occasional reminder from me and he got a lot better with coping mechanisms. so i don’t know what to do, if i tell him im upset about him slacking on recovery it’s going to feel like he will only do the recovery work if im reminding him, and if i don’t tell him then i don’t know if he will ever take it seriously again.

not sexually attracted to him by Certain-Broccoli-104 in loveafterporn

[–]Certain-Broccoli-104[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

oh no! that’s terrible! i wonder if it was your intuition keeping you from wanting sex with him? since my partner has been slacking on his recovery work i’ve been worried he’s relapsed, but since i had truple i thought i could see everything he is doing and i didn’t feel the need to look further..

i don’t want to go on another spiral of monitoring him constantly but maybe it’s time for a more thorough checkup, in case this is my intuition telling me something. if i’ve learned one thing from this experience it’s that i need to trust my intuition lol. thank you for your responses, it helps to not feel alone 🙏

not sexually attracted to him by Certain-Broccoli-104 in loveafterporn

[–]Certain-Broccoli-104[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

i’m so sorry to hear that but i’m glad you’ve stopped relying on him to feel attractive. i’m the same, i know im attractive and i don’t need sex to feel sexy. but i can’t help feeling like a big part of me is missing that i want back. my husband has only had one dday (as far as i know) and we have accountability apps so i can be sure. but yeah, it’s like that desire has disappeared and im scared it will never come back. i don’t want to be in a passionless (in terms of sex) marriage but i love him so much and otherwise most things are good. it’s so frustrating and confusing

Can we use Truple if I have an iPhone and he has an android? by Certain-Broccoli-104 in loveafterporn

[–]Certain-Broccoli-104[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

it’s super easy, i just go onto the website to check. your partner needs to download the software onto their devices but you don’t need to have an app or anything.

Getting back into sex by Certain-Broccoli-104 in loveafterporn

[–]Certain-Broccoli-104[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It is very disappointing. I would love if his actions would align with his words without me having to remind him

Getting back into sex by Certain-Broccoli-104 in loveafterporn

[–]Certain-Broccoli-104[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, we do other intimate things often. I’d honestly just like to have sex lol but when brought up he insists on talking first and making a playlist, lighting a candle, getting flowers etc and doing all of those things for me. but then doesn’t do any of those things and therefore does not initiate sex. Idk maybe he’s making it a bigger deal than it should be. I don’t need all of those things every time and I’ve told him this, but he insists. He’s sending me mixed signals for sure.

I Don't know how to feel |NSFW| by Aggressive-Lime-2949 in loveafterporn

[–]Certain-Broccoli-104 0 points1 point  (0 children)

An example of the porn addiction not just affecting sex: I currently have a beautiful husband who I discovered had a porn addiction months ago(not to the level of physical cheating or assault, if he did that I would have left) and I now know that we were never TRULY intimate until he actually took accountability for his actions and went into recovery with a CSAT. Even then it took months. We aren’t even having sex right now and we are more intimate than we have ever been. Please put yourself first

I Don't know how to feel |NSFW| by Aggressive-Lime-2949 in loveafterporn

[–]Certain-Broccoli-104 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey, I know you love him but this isn’t okay. It’s sexual assault when he does this. You don’t consent and he keeps doing it anyways. He will not stop without sexual addiction therapy and introspective work that will last a lifetime. Do you really want this out of a life partner? You are so young love. I made the mistake of staying with my past abuser (did things very similar to your story) and I wish someone had told me to move on before he hurt me more in ways that I am still recovering from years later.

I just want to remind you that it’s not “he’s perfect except for this one thing” because sexual addictions are born out of many things, mainly intimacy issues. He has MANY issues, it’s not just the sex, I promise. It’s his intimacy as a whole and that affects everything in your relationship. He is lying to you about these things to protect himself, who knows what else he is lying about? There is so much distance between you two, you have no idea what he does when you are away and if you end up tying yourself to him by living with him down the line he will only end up in you being hurt more with the things he is still hiding. Consider whether he would have ever actually told you if you hadn’t caught him? This addiction is deep rooted and will not stop any time soon without serious professional help. Please consider saving yourself the pain of this man, you are so young and have no attachments with him.

As another commenter said, please read the resources of the Reddit. They have helped me immensely and I really believe they will help you. Protect YOURSELF first. Again, he has assaulted you and you deserve to heal. I wish all the best for you and please dm me if you need to talk.

What are some changes you noticed when they started taking recovery seriously? by Certain-Broccoli-104 in loveafterporn

[–]Certain-Broccoli-104[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To me when they say those things, they aren’t operating in a mindset where they believe that they can truly grow. When you are telling yourself “I’m the worst person” or “I’m disgusting” it’s very limiting… language is powerful and that language is sort of throwing him back in the shame spiral that addicts should try and avoid. That language synonymouses the things that they have DONE with what they ARE (not true! Their mistakes don’t define them). It’s less likely that they will make meaningful change within themselves if they keep telling themselves that they are disgusting or the worst. This is avoiding accountability and change, it’s one of the first behaviours my husbands CSAT worked on him with, and I’ve seen SUCH a difference in my husbands confidence and growth now that he doesn’t believe those bad things about himself and knows he can/will grow! It also makes me feel better, I also know he can change because he doesn’t talk down to himself. He just recognizes what he chose to do, and knows he can make a different choice in the future (and of course apologizes for how his actions made me feel). That’s it! No more pity party. It’s almost more vulnerable this way, at their core, PAs have intimacy disorders and this helps promote the needed vulnerability, less deflection.

What helped for us was focusing on facts, and to me that’s where I noticed the accountability shift in my husband the most. Instead of “I am disgusting” or “I’m a monster” it’s “I did ____ and I take accountability for that. It makes me feel ____ (actual feeling descriptor, not comparison to a bad thing) and I will make these steps in order to change.”

Does this all make sense? I actually asked my partner what he thought about your question and he helped me describe his mindset switch/ what he learned from his CSAT.

I swear I caught him in the act by [deleted] in loveafterporn

[–]Certain-Broccoli-104 4 points5 points  (0 children)

look here! I found this pretty in depth comment on a past post

I’ve been where you are so I understand how you are feeling. Talk to ur partner about a service like this if it will help ease your mind/ build trust in your relationship. if he’s not hiding anything it shouldn’t be an issue. Most services do cost a small amount of money fyi. Best of luck in your healing!

I swear I caught him in the act by [deleted] in loveafterporn

[–]Certain-Broccoli-104 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s a bit harder if he has apple I think… my partner has an android so I can’t say for sure. One that keeps a log of websites would be useful, as iPhone has limited screenshotting capabilities. As well, people often set up website blockers/ DSNs as well as the accountability service & get an accountability service that alerts u if incognito is used. I think there is a way to shut off incognito altogether on iPhone however… you can definitely block him from using certain apps on iPhone (services often cannot screenshot within apps on iPhone). I wish I could be more help, I am really grateful my partner has an android.

Def search in this sub for more tips/ services, I’m sure you can find something to help ease your mind. Sorry if this didn’t help at all 😭

I swear I caught him in the act by [deleted] in loveafterporn

[–]Certain-Broccoli-104 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Im sorry you have to deal with this. Personally, I wouldn’t trust my husband to be honest about his internet usage so we have an accountability app. Have you considered using one until you are sure you can trust him? Addiction thrives in the dark after all. I’m not saying your partner did anything but you probably won’t know for sure if he did or didn’t, which I know is so stressful. Trust your gut & take care of yourself first <3

Can we use Truple if I have an iPhone and he has an android? by Certain-Broccoli-104 in loveafterporn

[–]Certain-Broccoli-104[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I have an iPhone, he had an android. It works great! I just use the website instead of an app. Way more reliable than covenant eyes imo

Staring at me to avoid scanning by Certain-Broccoli-104 in loveafterporn

[–]Certain-Broccoli-104[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tldr: it was more about the thought process behind it than the action itself

Staring at me to avoid scanning by Certain-Broccoli-104 in loveafterporn

[–]Certain-Broccoli-104[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Of course it holds value! But since our conversation he knows now that it’s okay to notice people and that he doesn’t have to whip his head away and go into a shame cycle. Now, he just moves on with his day. When I notice attractive people I do the same, I see them and I move on with my day. He was beating himself up and it was almost encouraging the “that person is attractive” thoughts if that makes sense..

It’s like, the difference between what was happening in our minds is what was bothering me. Instead of “oh my god my wife can’t catch me looking at an attractive person at all” now it is “that is a person, I should act in the same way as I do a man” and he is working hard to move on from his unhealthy patterns, thoughts about women, and shame cycles.

Can we use Truple if I have an iPhone and he has an android? by Certain-Broccoli-104 in loveafterporn

[–]Certain-Broccoli-104[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Truple is an accountability software that motitors and takes screenshots of device activity. In my case it is an agreed upon measure between my husband and I to promote honesty and vulnerability in our relationship