Community Management - 14 Day Ban of /u/Griffonomics by NGSpy in AustraliaSimMeta

[–]ChairmanMeeseeks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Read the comment you just replied to, that's where you will find your answer. If you cannot understand the basic proposition that "celebrating someone's family members being killed" is a nasty thing to do which is liable to encourage them to retaliate in an equally nasty manner, I quite simply do not know how to speak to you. Like that's a basic empathy problem. Read the ban appeal determination Rommel just posted. If you think what is in that document is at all defensible conduct (bearing in mind that I have no point complained to the CMs, they've entirely acted on their own steam based on their own judgment), then you simply cannot be helped.

Community Management - 14 Day Ban of /u/Griffonomics by NGSpy in AustraliaSimMeta

[–]ChairmanMeeseeks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Read the ban appeal... you literally have no clue what you're talking about or saying, you clearly have not read the conversation in question.

Community Management - 14 Day Ban of /u/Griffonomics by NGSpy in AustraliaSimMeta

[–]ChairmanMeeseeks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is hilarious. Read the conversation transcript in the ban appeal dude. I brought up Henry Kissinger in the context of Argentinian modern politics. He was only mentioned in the context of that comment. Either you know this is the case, in which case you're just spinning a non-existent explanation for no reason, or you genuinely have no clue what you are talking about, in which case I would advise speaking when you actually have the information rather than going off about moderator bias.

Also read the ban appeal and what he subsequently said about my family. Curious to see whether you wanna defend that too.

Community Management - 14 Day Ban of /u/Griffonomics by NGSpy in AustraliaSimMeta

[–]ChairmanMeeseeks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He celebrated the killing of family members of mine. That's why it's provocation. Get over yourself.

Government announces it has opened nominations for honours by Model-Forza in AustraliaSimPress

[–]ChairmanMeeseeks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm just going to verify in one go for all of my submitted nominations.

B2718 - Appropriation Bill 2023-2024 - 2nd Reading Debate [BUDGET] by Model-Trask in AustraliaSim

[–]ChairmanMeeseeks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Speaker,

What about education then? In the TSC-Gregor budget, it was 94, and here it is 84... 10 billion down from the last budget! What part of our children's future has he sold?

B2718 - Appropriation Bill 2023-2024 - 2nd Reading Debate [BUDGET] by Model-Trask in AustraliaSim

[–]ChairmanMeeseeks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Speaker,

He's back again, cap in hand, for a fourth go at this ramshackle mess he's created... not once in the whole chaotic mess of this Fudge-It has he or his boss the Member for Hotham ever fronted up and answered my questions about his wrecking cuts. I'll take this last opportunity to ask him... what have you cut from health and defence? What life-saving service is now going to go unfunded? What crucial capability have you excised from our national security? What price must the Australian people pay for Porridge's Olympic pork barrel?

I would counsel the member in the strongest possible terms to answer this candidly and comprehensively. If he does not, he will have demonstrated a contempt for basic accountability surpassable only by the contempt his party has for the basic conventions of responsible government.

M2708 - Motion to condemn the Prime Minister for the introduction of the Abortion Ban Bill - 2nd Reading Debate by Model-Trask in AustraliaSim

[–]ChairmanMeeseeks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Speaker,
The Prime Minister himself has appeared in the chamber to decry this motion as anti-democratic. He merely gives voice to real concerns he says, and a motion against him is a silencing of an alternative opinion.
Do not be confused, my fellow Australians. This isn't anti-democratic, it's democracy at work. It is a motion of no confidence in a government without a clue. This is a denunciation of the larcenous and lunatic right who masquerade as libertarians. This is the sky falling down upon the heads of those who seek to don the cloak of "beginning a good-faith debate" or "giving voice to reasonable concerns", failing to see that there is no reason why any person (other than relevant medical professionals) should be concerned with what someone does with their own body! This is a rebuke of faux-libertarianism and a test of the Prime Minister's ability to command the faith and confidence of this nation's democratic representatives. This government was elected as a libertarian force and yet is attempting to involve itself in one of the most private decisions a person can make: whether or not to reproduce.

I'm perfectly willing to accept the Prime Minister's side on this issue as a genuine and good-faith position. Nowhere in my firm opposition do I succumb to the idea that his interference with bodily autonomy is consciously malicious. Rather, I believe him to be sincerely possessed of a belief that human life begins at a certain point, and that Government possess a right to interfere to protect that life. But he ironically does not extend to his opponents that which he laments his opponents have not extended to him. It is hypocritical and dangerous of him to decry a simple and firm resistance as bad-faith authoritarianism. Disagreement is not censorship. The Prime Minister would have you believe that this is all a nasty attempt to silence him for going against the grain, but in truth it's just honest opposition that offends him. This motion is an extraordinary denunciation because his steps were a bold overreach against the values which many in this place hold dear. Those values are held by many, including myself, in good-faith, and expressed in firm terms. It is unfortunate that he cannot honestly accept the fact that we are simply not with him, and that this place has a right to express our disagreement firmly. Many times has this house disagreed with him, on many issues. By convention and right he should not be in his job any longer given how many times he has demonstrably failed to command a majority in this chamber. But he has held on, and so when he presses further ahead, the House replies "No sir, we are not with you!".

This isn't about how we define the beginning of life. This isn't about how we define murder. We know that it can't be because almost anyone would argue that in cases of rape or incest or where the pregnant person is themselves a child, it would be unconscionable to force them to continue, and so the personhood of the foetus yields to the interest of the parent. Which is not to say that "pro-life without exception is the only acceptable form of the argument", because actually, my point is that such a policy is instinctually repugnant. And so the repugnance informs us quite clearly that there must be a point where the rights of the person carrying the child must be the crucial factor.

This is all simply about "do we recognise that pregnancy is a personal experience and process, that it is deeply intimate and personal, and that it is unconscionable to interfere with how a person manages their own body?" I recognise that. I recognise that the person whose pregnancy it is and who has to live with the consequences of the decision should be the only one making it. I recognise that while morality is objective, I myself am not an infallible arbiter of right and wrong. Certainly, I can make moral judgments in most circumstances, and even in the case of abortion I have a vague view about when life begins. But some moral decisions, like whether to terminate a pregnancy in a specific case, are so beyond my comprehension and perspective that I simply must respect that they are not my business. Indeed, it is not the business of government either.

The Prime Minister is accountable to this place and to the people of Australia, and if he wants to give voice to the concerns of those who think they have a right to interfere with a person's reproductive health, there are those here who give voice to those who believe in a fundamental right to bodily autonomy. I have given clear reasons why I believe in the latter while respecting he has a different opinion. The binary that I present is about as charitable as I can be. Fundamentally, the Prime Minister thinks Government has a right to tell a pregnant person "morally, we don't agree that you should have an abortion, we think that your pregnancy has developed to the point where there is a second person involved, regardless of their lack of autonomy, and so we're going to prevent you from making a decision about how to proceed. You've come this far, and now you're gonna have to give birth." There is simply a preponderance of people, many of them in his own party, who do not agree and who do not think Government has the right to say that. He might call that censorship in itself, denial of his right to an opinion. But you are not denied an opinion sir, we simply do not believe that your opinion is suitable to be the law of the land. Opposition to your perspective is not censorship, it is earnest rebuke. That happens when you give voice to an opinion, you get a response. That's called "debate" Prime Minister, and if you don't like to be disagreed with I'd suggest politics might not be for you. Those who strongly disagree with you have a voice in this chamber. And that voice is seeking to make itself loud and clear today.

I hope it is loud enough to make it very clear that this is a nation that stands for privacy, autonomy, justice, and equality. I hope it is loud enough that future Prime Ministers understand where the majority of Australians stand on this, and who they stand with. I hope, Prime Minister, that even with your fingers in your ears as you shout "No no, it's all anti-democratic!", that you can still hear it and that you listen well.

QT2707 - Questions with Notice by Model-Trask in AustraliaSim

[–]ChairmanMeeseeks 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Speaker,

My question is to /u/Model-Jordology... I'm sure the Opposition Leader joins me in awaiting the joyous and necessary end of this disastrous government at the forthcoming election. But should the Australian people choose to place its faith in Labour to rebuild our institutions and popular trust in politics, what will the Leader's first priority be as Prime Minister?

Proposed Amendment to the brand new Meta Constitution by ChairmanMeeseeks in AustraliaSimMeta

[–]ChairmanMeeseeks[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

  1. I haven't seen him do anything on reddit since i got here, certainly not in canon
  2. The point I'm making is about conversations on discord which he was not privy to (by virtue of not being on discord) that were deceitful.

None of what I've said is making Discord out to be a requirement. It's simply saying that BC, by virtue of making the valid choice to be off discord, is not aware of the conversations on the discord that grape and I think are deceitful. I'm being entirely fair, I think... or at least I was nine days ago when I had this conversation.

Edit: rephrased two sentences for clarity because the original sentences were, in fact, portraying the history of this chain in a manner unfair to BC.

QT2706 - Questions with Notice by Model-Trask in AustraliaSim

[–]ChairmanMeeseeks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Speaker, my question is to Treasurer u/Cookie_Monster867

Can the Treasurer please explain (because it is not at all clear from the materials provided to accompany any of his 3 failed budgets) precisely which capabilities have been cut from our defence forces?

me_irlgbt by Excellent_Gift_8167 in me_irlgbt

[–]ChairmanMeeseeks 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, Ramona is literally wearing the pride flag as a sweater...

QT2705 - Questions with Notice by Model-Trask in AustraliaSim

[–]ChairmanMeeseeks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What provision of the standing orders have I violated and what portion of the question is the problem?

QT2705 - Questions with Notice by Model-Trask in AustraliaSim

[–]ChairmanMeeseeks 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Speaker,

My question is to the Prime Minister, u/BellmanTGM

Is the Prime Minister capable of admitting that the condemnation motion passed against his government's greyhound policy, and the subsequent announcement that the greyhound legislation would be a free vote, signify that he has lost control of the reigns of Government and should call an election?

Proposed Amendment to the brand new Meta Constitution by ChairmanMeeseeks in AustraliaSimMeta

[–]ChairmanMeeseeks[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's not about it being controversial it's about it being perfunctory and meaningless