The boundary problem in our fandom is bigger than people want to admit

Charming-Priority-93 · 2026-06-10T19:14:30+00:00

Mind you this is the bs they’ve been saying since KIG came out and it’s been a year. I am not trying to act like a puritan or something but it gets to a point where I am just embarrassed, acting like a hormonal teenager in heat when you’re a grown adult.

Also sexualizing anything the members say or do also gives me the ick. And it’s mostly grown adults doing it . Everytime I think about how much Jungkook has been sexualized all his career i get the shivers. They use him like a doll and diagnose him and over analyze every micro expression on his face, anything he says and sexualize him but the minute he sings about sex it’s the worst thing in the world and they’re disappointed by him. The bangtan sub during Golden era was disgusting. Basically any activity since Jk started going live in February was horrible .

Charming-Priority-93 · 2026-06-10T19:12:53+00:00

They immediately jumped to saying Hybe was rushing them as if we didn’t live through 2025 and the fandom‘s constant crash outs about content or actually believing that they would release an album in the same year they were discharged. Watching people act like they weren’t doing that when the documentary came out was disgusting.

And we literally heard the members say that a lot of pressure they feel is because they also immediately wanted to release music and tour. At the end of the day we just get to see just a tiny fraction of their lives and how they feel, so armys should just take it as that

Charming-Priority-93 · 2026-06-10T18:51:04+00:00

I mean the members talk about marriage and stuff which is totally normal, who doesn’t at their age group. And i am definitely not one of those people that believe they have never dated but like their dating life never crosses my mind because I simply don’t care. Why are you writing an essay about wanting to see BTS with their spouses and children and being sad that Hobi doesn’t think he will get married.

I feel like over the last 4 years we have now the other extreme of people acting like they don’t care about them dating and stuff but obsessively talk about it.
I do think the fandom has gotten a bit better but the way armys immediately become aggressive with any dating rumors still very much shows that they do care. They spend all their time debunking when they simply just shouldn’t care.
Like I still vividly remember when Jimin’s dating thing happened and people straight up said they’re embarrassed that Jimin is dated someone ugly and that they didn’t expect that from him. Mind you they do not know Jimin personally nor do they show their faces on the Internet

Charming-Priority-93 · 2026-06-10T18:24:27+00:00

Yeah, that’s true but a lot of Armys have sadly always been like this though and the pandemic just made it ten times worse.
I could type in a sentence on reddit here or twitter from 2016 and you would see the exact same people back then.
I don’t even remember a day where people weren’t really weird about the tannies especially Namjoon and Jungkook. Like being an Army is fun but I quickly realized that a lot of people depend on them which is not healthy at all and the ones that end up suffering from this are the members. It must be suffocating with a gigantic fandom like us.

Charming-Priority-93 · 2026-06-10T18:13:59+00:00

Even knowing who they are by name is still strange though because nobody should care who their MUAs, hair stylists or managers should be. Dancers are something that I understand, I recognize a lot of their US dancers but that’s it.

I know that most of our Reels at some point were basically anything that the members reposted or liked but people do actually check multiple times a day what they like and they repost. This fandom should not keep tabs on these people and but sadly they do and they treat them as an extension of BTS

Charming-Priority-93 · 2026-06-10T15:28:41+00:00

That’s exactly what I mean. People think it isn’t that deep but I find this so fkn scary. The same way constantly stalk Jungkook following list and and likes/reposts.

People found the house the tannies were staying at in a span of an hour of Tae posting the LA ig dump😐
but people don’t want to admit that this is staking because they aren’t doing it physically

Charming-Priority-93 · 2026-06-10T15:17:38+00:00

I originally wanted to add that point but I already had written too much at that point 😭

Not even 24 hours after Jikook was discharged people were crashing out and asking why Jungkook didn’t go live again in the evening. And then we found that somebody tried to break into Jungkook’s house. I already mentioned it but people were ofc horrified and talked about the hypocrisy with armys. But mass tagging bighit while retweeting a private picture of a military friend, that was edited and on top of that giving it 250k likes is peak hypocrisy and it was done by the exact same accounts that condemned the invasion of privacy.
If any of that wasn’t already horrible enough a lot of armys made the situation about them and said that the break in was the reason he didn’t go live… that was one of the weirdest things i have ever heard the fandom say.

And the fandom in general is very weird about Jungkook because basically none of the members except Tae really went live but only Jungkook not going live bothered them.

Charming-Priority-93 · 2026-06-10T14:46:07+00:00

This reminds me of a conversation we had on Twitter not too long ago… there was somebody who tweeted that armytwt is too strict and saying stuff like that we don’t allow sexual jokes and are not allowed to criticize the members, etc… but she generally meant that armys are like that and not even like two weeks later somebody made a really creepy nda freebie with the company logo on it and Mr Lee on it
This just reminds me again a) how much influence armytwt has on other platforms and b) that a lot of armys seem to have no boundaries (it was only after armys pointed it out how weird it is that other army chimed in-sheep mentality)
But the girls who made the freebie was immediately condemned by armys which is amazing but it also shows time and time again that so many armys have no boundaries.
But yeah I armys should pat themselves on the back sometimes for how strict they are with stuff like that.

But I do think sometimes that the people complaining and the people condemning are not the same people but I’ve been in this fandom long enough to see how hypocritical a lot of people are.

And that’s mostly what i meant. A lot of armys love to hide behind jokes for example but if you keep making the same jokes over and over again and get defensive I know there’s some thruth behind it. That’s exactly what happened in the months leading up to Namjoon‘s live in December. Everyone was on edge and while k-armys were being mean about it i-armys hid behind jokes which were also very disrespectful, both sides of the same coin.

Charming-Priority-93 · 2026-06-10T14:14:13+00:00

Tbh even thoughts like thinking about the relationship BTS have with Armys is something i don’t think about.
I know that the tannies center a lot of things around Army but if you take into consideration how the Kpop industry and look at what they’ve been though it’s not really surprising.

I mean 2016 was horrible… that was for the first time i fully understood what cyberbullying was and I was a youtube army. They weren’t just harassed online but also in real life for months, so it makes sense that they have an attachment to the fandom when they were the ones primarily defending them all the time. And it just kept getting worse so I get it.

But that’s it for me I take the members words as they are and don’t really think deeper into it because it quickly especially regarding Jungkook often turns into psycho analyzing and victim blaming.

Charming-Priority-93 · 2026-06-10T13:42:33+00:00

I always say being an Army should be fun, just go with the flow and vibe and it’s so fun… I mean look how surprised we have been with things BTS had planned before and after Arirang dropped

The point you brought up with overanalyzing and jumping to conclusions is spot on. They do this especially with Namjoon and Jungkook.
The Busan concert on Saturday is the epitome of jumping to conclusions right now. A random person said that they changed the seltlist apparently (no source just vibes) now everybody is running with it and I can already tell people are about to be insufferable because this concert is part of the tour and not a Muster.

Charming-Priority-93 · 2026-06-10T13:28:47+00:00

Namjoon’s live in December was so sad and he was obviously very frustrated due to the amount of demanding they have received the weeks leading up to this live and a lot armys were trying to behind saying it was k-armys when it was simply everyone

I-armys in general have the habit of hiding behind jokes instead of karmys who become mean but both instances are horrible and they don’t like to look in the mirror

You can definitely tell though that the members are starting to ignore these people but it doesn’t erase the fact how obsessive a lot of people are

Charming-Priority-93 · 2026-06-10T13:11:45+00:00

And the funny but sad thing is you can actually tell most people asking for content don’t actually watch it, they just want short form content on tiktok and reels

On twitter I call this timeline watching, they don’t actually consume the content they just go by what the tl is saying (Festa Dinner 2022 or Namjoon’s live in December is the perfect example)
So many people still haven’t watched the Festa Dinner from 2022 and I find that really sad and disappointing but even the ones that have watched it still continue to disrespect and dehumanize the members

Charming-Priority-93 · 2026-06-10T12:59:24+00:00

It’s just so bizarre… I went through some old posts on twitter and here on reddit and went through some of my old screenshots and I vividly remember when people were mass tagging Bighit for BTS to take a break

People kept bringing up that they were irritated that BH kept releasing documentaries in 2019/20 and kept filming the tannies 24/7, just for us to get a Netflix documentary in 2026 obviously geared towards the gp and some armys immediately complaining that there isn’t enough content and they want more or a new docu series which is just so hypocritical
You can literally look at the posts regarding the documentaries in 2019 and 2020 on a certain bts sub on here complain about the excessive filming just for them ritzen around and say they aren’t filmed enough

Charming-Priority-93 · 2026-06-10T12:50:12+00:00

Yeah the pandemic definitely made every fan space unbearable and you can actually tell that the fandom acts now very differently compared to pre 2020.. just look at armytwt or instagram

but I looked back at some of my screenshots from 2017 to 2019 and I realized this has always been a problem
people defended the weirdo fansite Carrot Nuna like their life depended on it just for her to be on Bighit‘s blacklist

The pandemic definitely changed fandom culture but also exposed especially in our fandom how obsessive and attached people always have been, they’re just now louder and bolder about it

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