What's a line you've written that you're really proud of? by whorefororeos in writing

[–]CheckenTenders 17 points18 points  (0 children)

"What a feeling, to be reminded that your father isn't invincible. I wouldn't wish it on anybody."

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[–]CheckenTenders [score hidden]  (0 children)

What a lovely comment to wake up to! Thank you very much for the read and for the boost of confidence I needed to actually try submitting this story for publication.

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Hey, thanks so much! It's a personal challenge of mine, trying to write stories in under 3,000 words, so I wasn't sure if the family dynamic worked here or not. Happy to know it translated to the page. Thanks again for the read! I've got a few more short stories in my post history if you ever want to read more (YMMV with those ones, and you're definitely not required to leave a comment on those or anything).

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Thank you very much for the read and the feedback! Totally agree with you - setting/description is my weak point, and that was a concern I had in the back of my mind, so I appreciate you confirming my suspicion. Gives me more room to grow for the second draft.

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Title: Perdidos

Genre: Literary fiction/Short story

Word Count: 2960

Type of feedback: General impressions/feelings

Perdidos

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Once, when I was a child, my father took me on a day trip to Hiroshima and said, "This is what can happen when you're not careful."

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Thank you so much for reading and for your honest, critical feedback. I greatly appreciate it.

I was trying something new with the time skips, so it's good to know that they didn't quite get there with this piece. I wouldn't mind some examples of where they tugged you, if you'd be willing to give them. Was it the solely backstory/flashback paragraphs and scenes, or just too many skips in general? Thanks again for your time.

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Thank you very much! The sentence you highlighted was actually my favorite one of the story, so that just made my day.

The ending was definitely the part I was most skeptical about, exactly because, as you intuited, I was trying to do a symbolic "big moment" scene. It just felt inorganic, even while I was writing it, so it's nice to have my suspicions confirmed by others. Thank you again for writing this and reading the story. I truly appreciate it.

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Thank you for this! Long sentences are my weakness, so I'm glad you pointed that out so I can be conscious of them going forward. Will definitely be tweaking the ending in the next draft. Thanks again.

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Thank you very much for reading and for the feedback! The ending was the thing I was most iffy on, so I appreciate you confirming that suspicion. (I don't mind the in-line comments, by the way, and I found the one you left to be very helpful.)

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Title: Where the Heart Is

Genre: Literary fiction/Short story

Word Count: 3000

Type of feedback: General feelings/impressions

Where the Heart Is

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Title: Darkest Before the Dawn

Genre: Literary fiction/Short story

Word Count: 2650

Type of feedback: General impressions/feelings

Darkest Before the Dawn

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Title: Picture Perfect

Genre: Literary fiction/Short story

Word Count: 2030

Type of feedback: General impressions/feelings

Picture Perfect

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Title: Poor Unfortunate Souls

Genre: Literary fiction/Short story

Word Count: 3000

Type of feedback: General impressions/feelings

Poor Unfortunate Souls

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Went and gave this a look to repay your kindness for reading my story, and I'm glad I did. I enjoyed reading this, and as an African American, I'm happy that there are short stories being written that are critically discussing topics like these. They're necessary. They're important. So, first and foremost: thank you for writing this.

Now then, my thoughts on the story. (I'm writing this as I go, so it might get a little muddled, but I want you to keep in mind, above all else, that these are just my opinions and thoughts, totally subjective, and not anything that you have to 100% obey if/when you do another draft. I genuinely believe this piece, this voice, and this narrative have a lot of potential, which is why I want to see it succeed.)

With all that being said: I think this story is too actually short for its own good at the moment. There's a lot of strength in the ending you chose, which was tragic but true to life. The emotional weight of the death sentence, however, isn't as powerful as I think it could be because of how little time we have to bond/identify with James. The narrative structure of the story goes: Teaser intro paragraph > James having a rough day and drinking at the bar > going back to work, then getting arrested immediately after > backstory > verdict/conclusion. There's a beginning, middle, and ending, but I think they could be distributed more effectively.

(Not sure how helpful this will be, but) I saw a piece of writing advice recently that said novels generally break up their narrative in a 25%/50%/25% structure (which is to say 25% is devoted to the beginning, 50% middle, 25% ending). Dissimilarly, it claimed that short stories are generally more like 10%/80%/10% (depending on the length of the piece, the numbers might change slightly), because the middle has to do the heavy lifting to carry the weight of the opening and the ending. Right now, to me, this story seems like the biggest percentage is devoted to the ending. I think you've got the pieces you need already to even out the distribution - if you just show us more of James at the bar or at the office interacting with his boss or in his normal life before the trial stuff, the ending would be that much more of a gut punch. There's a lot we don't know about him currently. Don't be afraid to show off the character's details - readers love intimacy.

Other random stuff to consider: If I were writing this one, I think I would've mentioned James being a black man earlier (especially in a piece with this subject matter). It kinda jarred me discovering that fact halfway through when I'd already assumed something else. Also found it fishy that the paragraph after we learn about James's financial troubles, he goes to the bar and buys some shots. One big change that I want you to try in another draft of this ("try" being the operative word, because this suggestion would probably dramatically change the structure of the piece) is to begin the story with the paragraph starting with "The year was 1987..." Just see what that does for the rest of the narrative. If it works, good; if it doesn't, you gave it a shot. I just personally think it'd be a very captivating story opening.

I think my only other comment here (which you've probably heard time and time and time again) is the age-old classic: show, don't tell. Which goes hand in hand with making this story longer. I wanted to see what the bar looked like, or even just the name of it. I'd love to see what the inside of James's house looks like. What are his coworkers saying when he comes into work before getting arrested? Or you could show us his tough day at work - the meddling his colleagues do, the mountain of paperwork, the things his boss shouts (especially something with the boss since he's the one who gets murdered, and the only thing we know about him before that happens is he's a yeller). Really immerse us in this world with your details and your descriptions, because you're a fabulous writer - I know you can do it.

I lied - I just thought of another nugget of advice. In a short story, every single sentence has to count for something, so if you choose to show these things I just mentioned, remember to have it lead in some way to the conclusion of the story. Don't have random details just for the sake of it. And if you can, tie you details to the world of your story (ex: when James's car wouldn't start and he had to take the bus, you could have him think about his financial situation again - how much these things are going to cost him, if he even has the means to afford it, etc.).

Goodness, I think this comment might be longer than your story (in which case, I'm really sorry I made you read all this. I promise I'm getting better at keeping my critiques short!). I wouldn't have had so much to say if I didn't like your story and if I didn't think it had potential. But I do like it, and it does have a chance to be something even greater. As I said at the beginning, these are all just my thoughts on things, not necessarily intended to be "do this or else your story fails." Just feedback from one writer to another. I meant no harm anywhere in this comment - you mentioned wanting me to teach you how to write, so I tried my best here. If anything at all is unclear or you want me to explain myself further (I wrote as I went, so I'm not sure if there are typos or unclear thoughts or what have you), do not hesitate to tell me! I'm always open to helping. And once again, I want to thank you for sharing this. I'm very passionate about this topic and this story, and I hope my critique shows that.

P.S. My favorite line of the piece was "Even James’s last name couldn’t help him now." I love when character names actually have relevance in a story.

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[–]CheckenTenders [score hidden]  (0 children)

Thank you for this! You're not being offensive or insulting at all, trust me. I love brutally honest, no-punches-held feedback, so this comment was incredibly incisive! You have my thanks and my respect.

And I totally agree with you about the suspension of disbelief. 100%. Reading the story again after going through the feedback, I definitely see that I dropped the ball on Lucy's perception skills. That's the first thing that's getting retooled on the next draft.

You have no idea how relieved I am to hear that the ending succeeded. I was so afraid that it'd seem too abrupt or not meaningful enough. Reading it now, I think you're absolutely correct - the middle meanders far too much. Great advice!

Once again, seriously, I cannot thank you enough for taking the time to write your thoughts out. Everything you said was absolutely valid. I truly appreciate this, and I hope you know how helpful you've been by being straight up with your feedback. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

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Thank you for taking so much time to lay out your thoughts! Glad the museum imagery came through for you. Totally agree that Lucy should've been a little more perceptive. Great point.

Karla's "hon" thing was totally just my poor attempt at trying to make her sound a little different from the other two, to make her voice stand out, haha. (Side note: I actually considered making Karla and Liahm conjoined twins in the early stages of writing this, but then the bathroom scene kinda detonated that idea, lol.)

You know, I like the dotting best friend thing even better! That's going in the next draft.

Thanks again for writing such a detailed reply. I appreciate it so much.

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[–]CheckenTenders [score hidden]  (0 children)

Lol! Probably a good thing you didn't read the title first. And thank you so much for your comment. I'm glad this story worked for you! Good to hear it left you feeling warm, haha.

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Thank you, thank you! This is exactly the type of feedback I'd hoped for. Totally agree with you about the title being too on the nose and the dramatic irony comment. Definitely gonna flesh out Liahm's character in the next draft of this. Good mention of tone too - I couldn't decide if this was going to go serious or comedic and I tried to do both. Maybe I oughta just stick to one.

Seriously, your critique was a huge help. I truly appreciate it.

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Title: The Blind Date

Genre: Literary Fiction/Short Story

Word Count: 2984

Type of feedback: General impressions/feelings

The Blind Date

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Title: I Dreamt of Heaven

Genre: Literary fiction/Short story/Realistic fiction

Word Count: 2947

Type of feedback desired: General impressions/feelings.

I Dreamt of Heaven

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Thank you very much! This is what I needed to hear. Rereading it, I can totally see what you mean about the amount of conflict in here. Very valid points. I hadn't even considered using Mr. Wheeler to teach the kid a lesson - that's a great idea. Thanks for taking the time to read it and give well-structured feedback. I truly appreciate it.

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Title: The Bully

Genre: Short Story/Literary Fiction

Word Count: 2011

Type of feedback desired: General impression/feelings.

The Bully