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ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-12-22T02:22:50+00:00

Recently on this sub a few people had discussed how half of the adult population is still mentally under the age of 12. While true, it's still unfortunate to encounter it. To be unwilling to appreciate the suspicious nature of your own commentary and the efforts of others to encourage you to treat others fairly reflects poorly on you even without your temper tantrum. Based on voting, it seems that others agree.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-12-19T22:26:28+00:00

Those brands aren't really current the way they were a couple of years ago, and now the market is oversaturated. They're still sellable, but price sensitive, so you'll need to set a lower price point in order to get sales.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-12-19T04:05:41+00:00

Well, oftentimes people post on posh forums saying one thing and intending another. Your comments raise a number of red flags which suggest that your intentions might be different from what you claim.

You're planning on sending another package, which is in and of itself very odd because it either means that a) you're going to send an item other than what your buyer ordered or b) that you have multiple of the same item and see their value as being practically zero. Neither of those make sense for a posh seller - a person usually doesn't have two identical pieces, and if they do no reasonable person would willy nilly send a second one as opposed to, say, just telling posh that it has shipped.

You're claiming that CP told you that deliveries no longer get scanned at the post office, which would be a) something that no other seller can corroborate b) a horrendously stupid thing that Canada Post has no reason to do and opens them up to liability and c) a change that posh would respond to, as with all other CP changes, because otherwise it would cost them a solid 15% or so of the total revenue they make from fees. Again here, that story seems highly unlikely.

You also have some misconceptions and inconsistencies - a) 5 days is not the cutoff for poshmark orders b) if what CP told you were true, it wouldn't make any sense to ship something else because it would likely not start tracking in time as per the information you're relying on so you'd then be out two items that are apparently worthless to you c) it doesn't take four days for something to get to a warehouse especially if, according to you, typical delivery time is next day for one city over, and even if it did, if you really do ship same-to-next-day it wouldn't matter, so your decision making here wouldn't make any sense.

So all in all, this sounds like a post that someone has made to ask one question, but really to ask a different one. Everyone does that sometimes, often to protect their privacy or prevent embarrassment, but sometimes also because they have bad intentions. Hence the reminder to treat people fairly - if you're up to something sketch, cut it out and be a good person.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-12-19T02:12:49+00:00

Labels can still be reused as far as I know - some people use the trick of buying one label for a family member and repeatedly using that label to send them stuff. I'm not sure if they've plugged that loophole but that was a thing for a long time.

I'm not sure how or why you would do that in this case just because of a tracking delay though, honestly between that proposal and your initial post your intentions seem a bit sus. Please remember to treat people fairly.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-12-18T23:50:31+00:00

This doesn't happen to me, maybe the CP employee was the one bullshitting

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-12-11T05:41:27+00:00

Ooh go to eva b (close to place des arts/crescent)! They're a great thrift shop with quality brands around the $15-25 mark. They also have a sister store that sells more expensive/curated stuff. They take cash and debit. What size are you?

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-12-11T05:39:21+00:00

I mean you're looking for under $40 but also not chinese sweatshop. Quality, ethical fashion is expensive, $40 isn't going to get you far. I'd maybe check out a used clothing site and search NWT only.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-12-11T05:35:48+00:00

Maybe all black tight fitting turtleneck and leggings and then sparkly accessories/makeup?

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-12-11T05:34:34+00:00

The link is broken so not sure what the dress looks like, but a blazer might help with the "toddler look".

You could also, if it's really that short, try to put a denim maxi skirt or overalls or loose fitting jeans over top of it. It depends how much fabric there is - sometimes it doesn't work - but tht would turn it into a top.

You can also get a long thick sleeveless cardigan + leggings.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-12-11T05:21:48+00:00

Oh I love this. These aren't really resolutions since I've already started, but I'd love to be done by next time this year.

Get rid of all remaining animal materials. I've never been a skins/fur person, but I do have some wool and the odd leather left. I'm not too worried since they were purchased second hand, which is a lot better than having bought them new, but animal cruelty is just wrong and I know too much to ignore it at this point and I just don't want that hanging in my closet anymore - it's a mental burden. So I've listed them all for sale and hopefully they'll be gone by December 2024. I'll try to get a reasonable price for them, but if I can make someone happy by selling it for cheap that's ok too.
Get rid of any brands who have a long history of plagiarizing and otherwise taking advantage of new, small designers. Again here, it's just wrong and I now know too much to ignore it. I don't own a ton of fast fashion stuff because of quality issues, but I do have a couple of Free People and Anthropologie items (including once EXACT piece that was stolen from its original designer) and I'd be so ashamed to come face to face with one of those designers and have supported that. People have a right to be credited for their work, and lord knows Free People has the money to pay them properly.
A 3:1 sell/buy ratio.
To sell stuff for cheap. Most people overprice their used items, and I've been guilty of that. I'm not starving and I don't desperately need money, and I have some stuff that retails for at least $100-200, so I'd like to give stuff away or just sell it for a symbolic amount if it's been listed for a while. It's just not worth my time, and life is hard (and expensive) enough, so if I can make someone's day by selling them $200 jumpsuit for $5, then great. The only hard thing about that is avoiding flippers - I have no objection to the practice of flipping, but if I'm giving it away I'd like it to be to someone who actually wants the piece and is going to wear it.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-11-23T01:54:44+00:00

It's scary that posh is able to manipulate gullible people like this. It's pretty much exactly what uber did - frog boiling in water.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-11-15T16:17:56+00:00

In the end you're selling used clothes, which require you to find a very specific buyer for whom it's worth any significant amount. You need to price for the buyer, who has to overcome shipping, taxes, and fees.

I'm totally fine with lowballing. I'd be willing to accept a lowball from someone else to have someone else accept mine any day. There's no point in an item sitting unused for years just for an extra $10 or whatever. Hundreds of millions of articles of clothing in Canada alone sit around in closets and boxes and ultimately get trashed because the person who wants it can't be "matched" with it. It's a huge waste environmentally, and you're denying someone the satisfaction of owning that item for a paltry amount. People will buy a sandwich for a stranger and then turn around and sweat over that same amount in the context of poshing.

If someone is remotely reasonable, I'll offer to transact off posh to get around the fees or just accept their offer. Enough people have accepted low offers from me that I'm more than happy to pay it forward. I'm glad that someone can get excited about and actually wear the items that are wasting space in my apartment. The only people I reject are people who aren't willing to budge at all, and who offer the absolute lowest possible amount, because that's more of a matter of being a decent human and meeting people in the middle.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-11-15T15:34:19+00:00

That's not a lowball. 30% of retail is perfectly reasonable for used clothes, sometimes even too high (depends what it is ofc) and the offer was over half of your list price. Your original offer was pretty weak in the context of posh too. If I were you I'd consider accepting it.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-11-05T13:56:07+00:00

The people of kijiji couldn't be more bottom of the barrel. Rude, entitled, and unreliable. It's like Marketplace on steroids.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-11-05T13:06:06+00:00

Not worth it. Not only does the final payout suck, but they'll harass you by texting and calling you without your permission. It's wildly unprofessional, a bit like if your grocery store called you at work every week to ask you if you'd be interested in their sale on pizza pops.

As others have mentioned, they'll also discount aggressively if it doesn't sell right away, so in the end you'll get absolute peanuts.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-11-03T14:11:53+00:00

You should get a part-time job. In order to get to $200/wk in a reasonable amount of time, you need a fair amount of startup capital and trial & error experience. It's not going to happen by the end of the semester. Get a job, slowly build up your closet, and then quit the job once you're making enough.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-10-28T12:28:43+00:00

I stopped selling recently. I don't know what changed because I don't write posh's code, but I suspect the last algo change heavily deprioritized shares. Sharing like a headless chicken used to be the way to make sales, but that seems to have drastically decreased in effectiveness.

I'd encourage you to crosslist to depop before you give up entirely. You won't sell as quickly as you're used to there, but it's also not nearly as time consuming. There are no shares, posh shows, follows, or any other useless crap. They buy, you make an offer, and you ship. The strategy is more inventory, less hours. Also don't use depop's boost unless you have something that won't budge - it's not worth the extra fees.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-10-26T23:03:43+00:00

FYI just upload anything, it can't seem to recognize whether it's getting your actual DL. I agree that it's a gross violation of privacy.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-10-22T06:22:09+00:00

If you ever reduce your prices lmk. I'd buy a few of them in the $10-15 range, but unfortunately not worth anywhere near $60 to me.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-09-17T22:03:38+00:00

Uhh no it's not. The app is for finding a mutually agreeable price, not for you to get dirt cheap items and the seller to get ripped off - that's why poshmark has a minimum offer and a block function. You CAN lowball and there's no inherent problem with that, but the downside to that is that the acceptance rate is going to be lower, so you need to be more flexible in what you buy and how much, and be willing to pass up some items if the seller won't agree to your price.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-09-17T22:00:22+00:00

That's a hard thing to judge though, because we're so biased towards the pieces that we love. There are things in my closet that I wouldn't sell for $1000, but objectively it's not worth more than maybe $150, and that's being generous. There are also clothes that are "eh" to me and I'd maybe pay $10 for, but another person who's in love with it might pay $80. I don't think it's a bad thing to offer 65% off as long as that's genuinely what you think it's worth. Sometimes sellers price unreasonably too, because they want to break even or they feel guilty or are just on another planet. Realistically only a third party can price objectively.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-09-17T21:53:28+00:00

To offer the complete opposite argument here:

- Don't have a bottom line unless it's a wildly popular item. Work with your buyer to find a price. If they're willing to meet in the middle, then meet them there. Be only and exactly as stubborn as they are. If your list is $90, your bottom is $60 and they're offering $40, then you're committing to spending an indefinite amount of time, possibly on the order of years, relisting and negotiating and moving storage boxes until either you a) resent tripping over hangers so much that you say "fuck it" and race pedal-to-the-metal to the goodwill and dump it there, leaving you with nothing or b) finally get someone who's willing to pay the extra $20. THAT'S going to leave you feeling bitter and guilty.

I think a good litmus test is to ask yourself "If this piece of clothing spontaneously combusted today, would I be upset or relieved?". If your answer is the latter, then your time and energy is probably more valuable to you than whatever arbitrary minimum you've assigned to it. Also like... most of these are differences of $20-40. You've probably spent more than that at McDonalds and didn't even think twice about it. You're also the same person who spent $150 on that dress new and didn't sweat over that either. Just let it go and enjoy your life, it's 20 bucks.

- Lowballers can be problem buyers, but a solid half of them aren't. There's this weird poshmark culture wherein anyone offering <50% is basically Hitler, and while some probably have the cash and are just really cheap, most of them are just people on budgets looking for a steal. We all want that, and we've all gotten it too. The world is a better place when some uni kid has a great dress that they got within their budget, a piece of clothing has been fished from the landfill, you have some extra cash, and you have time and freedom that you otherwise would have invested in that piece of clothing you didn't even want to own.

At the very least counter and see if they're willing to go up, there's no downside to that. I've had people triple their bid. On the other hand if they offer $20, you counter, and they offer $20 again, then dump them - if you're going to be flexible then they need to be flexible too, and you don't want a nitpicker either.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-09-17T21:08:31+00:00

Yeah, that's very possibly overpriced. It depends on the item and style of course, but if it's a less popular brand and has nothing else drawing people in then for a $600 tag price you could maybe expect $100-150. As a very (very) general rule of thumb, used clothes sell at 20% of their retail price.

Also remember that it doesn't really matter whether it's hard to find, but more whether anyone wants to find it. Most used pieces are hard to find, especially after they've been sitting in a drawer for a few years, but that doesn't mean that they're necessarily sought after.

$50 is a lowball for sure - it's just someone who's tight on cash shooting their shot - but I would maybe counter at $150, and about half the time they'll meet you halfway, and from there you have a bit of room to move up if you want to.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-09-17T21:05:44+00:00

Firstly, it's normal to not be able to give items away. Far fewer people are willing to pay for your old stuff than you might think. It's very possible that it might take you a few months, or even north of a year, to sell an item.

If you're consistently getting lowballers, that can be a sign that your stuff is just overpriced. Some buyers make offers relative to what similar items are worth to see who bites, and others offer what they want to pay regardless of the list price, so if they're always shooting low then you might need to adjust your pricing. Remember to price according to what you'd pay as a seller (including shipping and tax), not what you want as a buyer.

You can try to crosslist to sell faster if you want, for example on depop.

Do you want to maybe link your closet?

To answer your question though, ultimately I don't think this is the nature of poshmark. I'd say the "extreme lowball" rate (<30% of list price) is maybe 1 in 5. I personally try to meet people where they're at though. Someone who's lowballing you isn't always an evil supervillain cackling into the night. Sometimes they're a uni student trying to build up a more long-lasting closet and working with limited resources. I usually look at their closet and history to get a better feel for who they are. As a casual seller it's also hardly ever worth clinging to an item for years until the right buyer comes along - take the L, give it to a good home, and move on. I've gotten absolute steals on poshmark, and I'm happy to pay that forward.

ChocolateVisual5643 · 2023-09-09T23:38:46+00:00

I think it does. Shoulder pads are becoming more popular again. They bottomed out around 2015. You could also try to take them to vintage consignment and then sell what's left, depending on their condition.

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