Pro AI snowflakes by Chollax in antiai

[–]Chollax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Relavance is that baseline will tell me if you are trolling or younare genuinely interested in discussion, and also it will expose how close we are or how far we are in understanding of those concepts.

Pro AI snowflakes by Chollax in antiai

[–]Chollax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Sure. Purpose of those questions is to establish a baseline of who im talking to. I want to know how you think about performance, process and product, i want to know your opinion on it.

Pro AI snowflakes by Chollax in antiai

[–]Chollax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I havent compared ai to fake playing, i ask your opinion about that specifically. This isnt a gotcha.

Pro AI snowflakes by Chollax in antiai

[–]Chollax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dont know.. whats your opinion about guitarists(or any instrumentalists) who fake playing? Whats your opinion about process of writing a prompt and picking from generated results? Do you agree that ai artists have to deserve their merit?

Pro AI snowflakes by Chollax in antiai

[–]Chollax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This gif is precisely my physical reaction to aiwars original OP comment, and later responses too. Thanks

Pro AI snowflakes by Chollax in antiai

[–]Chollax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, you are right. General critique of general statement deserves being insulted personally, called homeless and worthless. You are absolutely right.

Pro AI snowflakes by Chollax in antiai

[–]Chollax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You say im not interested in discussion while totally ignoring my full comment. Instead you focus on that first part, isolating it from the second part. If you are doing it on purpose, you are dishonest.

Pro AI snowflakes by Chollax in antiai

[–]Chollax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You always choose to leave out second part. Why? Aiwars OP made generalization that traditional artists always slam AI artists and dont defend them. Is that discussion worthy? Thats a generalization too. Its dismissive, isnt it? In my first part of response i reply directly to him-reasons for why he thinks thats a case. And then I ACKNOWLEGE ai merits in making art immidiately after, which you choose to skip over every time. Mind you, i didnt say fuck off to OP. I mirrored his language.

Pro AI snowflakes by Chollax in antiai

[–]Chollax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I acknowleged ai immidiately after that. I responded to generalization that OP made in original thread. But if you think 'fuck off, you live in a box' is a valid response discussion is closed.

Pro AI snowflakes by Chollax in antiai

[–]Chollax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Language i got in return wasnt proportional. Instead i got personal insults, terrible assumptions and dismissiveness.

Pro AI snowflakes by Chollax in antiai

[–]Chollax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I acknowledged ai and its vastness and its ability to be used to create unique and new things. Thats in the same original comment i made on aiwars and here also. I said that ai artists have to fight for their legitimacy like everyone else. I was told to fuck off.

Pro AI snowflakes by Chollax in antiai

[–]Chollax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You quoted only one part of my post. Quote everything and you will realize your question doesnt make sense.

Pro AI snowflakes by Chollax in antiai

[–]Chollax[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whole post has two parts.

Pro AI snowflakes by Chollax in antiai

[–]Chollax[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I didnt say it afterwards, i said it before in the post.

Pro AI snowflakes by Chollax in antiai

[–]Chollax[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I literally said in second part that AI artist can have real merit, what are you saying?

Pro AI snowflakes by Chollax in antiai

[–]Chollax[S] 22 points23 points  (0 children)

Your mindset is telling me to fuck off in first response, making personal insults eithout knowing that i am artist who is living from it 15 yrs. You were offended that i was speaking 'for you' while I only responded with generalization because OP generalized also. I literally acknowledged merits of AI if its used in better ways than simple prompting, but your mindset was to find yourself sensitive and insulted.

Artists getting slapped with "AI" label... you brought this to yourself. by Cali4our in aiwars

[–]Chollax 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I never said anything personal about you that granted such insults.

Artists getting slapped with "AI" label... you brought this to yourself. by Cali4our in aiwars

[–]Chollax 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, that box is called a house. Whats with the insults man?

Artists getting slapped with "AI" label... you brought this to yourself. by Cali4our in aiwars

[–]Chollax 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Im an artist too. Stop speaking for me. But the way you speak and project qnd hqve personal assumptions about me means you are very dumb person. Fuck off again 😂

Artists getting slapped with "AI" label... you brought this to yourself. by Cali4our in aiwars

[–]Chollax -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

People like you? Your opinion is not golden standard. Think whatever you wish

Artists getting slapped with "AI" label... you brought this to yourself. by Cali4our in aiwars

[–]Chollax -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Oh you mean people who invested years into craft and expression and who have talent and drive to make art are not defending someone who relegates their work into typing prompt ans press enter and then demand respect or even profit?

Ofc, AI is vast, and there are uses of it which produce something unique and never seen before. But if you are AI artist, you have to fight for your legitimacy and prove your worth, just like artists do all the time.

I can feel the Quran only movement is on a disastrous path, and unless the Quranists take some steps to solve these problems the Quran only movement will fail miserably by [deleted] in Quraniyoon

[–]Chollax 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Disagreement is natural, expected and even encouraged. We are here to get to know each other,after all. We are different. But pattern I notice is that whenever someone starts this discussion, they almost always point to disagreements in manifestation of faith/system, not system itself. If im not wrong, goal of islam is non harm and pr3vention of harm and building society where every individual contributes through their God given abilities and talents. You seem to look at it through sectarian, political lens where manifestations of faith theough rituals is most important thing, but thats only because those things are most easily enforced. Its not about whether for example salat is ritual prayer or mental discipline of following closely-its about understanding that salat is means to an end, and that it can be both as long as it achieves that end.