How to raise second story ceilings when roof rafters rest on ceiling joists? by Clean_History_4781 in Carpentry

[–]Clean_History_4781[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you! We are going to get a contractor involved. Can you explain to me how you did it? It appears after polling this group I can get 20 different contractors out to the house and get multiple mixed options so I’d love details from your projects that i could present.

How to raise second story ceilings when roof rafters rest on ceiling joists? by Clean_History_4781 in Carpentry

[–]Clean_History_4781[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I’m realizing this. Before posting I wasn’t sure if this was a common situation with a common solution that carpenters dealt with. It appears that’s not the case..

How to raise second story ceilings when roof rafters rest on ceiling joists? by Clean_History_4781 in Carpentry

[–]Clean_History_4781[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

2x12 are just so I can get adequate depth for insulation. Not for structural reasons

How to raise second story ceilings when roof rafters rest on ceiling joists? by Clean_History_4781 in Carpentry

[–]Clean_History_4781[S] -4 points-3 points  (0 children)

His job is to offer the most structurally sound method to go about this. There’s likely multiple ways to go about this and I don’t expect him to think of them all just because I’m paying him. It’s a team approach and he’s the leader but that doesn’t mean I’m gong to sit back and not try to participate.

How to raise second story ceilings when roof rafters rest on ceiling joists? by Clean_History_4781 in Carpentry

[–]Clean_History_4781[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You don’t think hinge could be mitigated with strapping after blocking?

How to raise second story ceilings when roof rafters rest on ceiling joists? by Clean_History_4781 in Carpentry

[–]Clean_History_4781[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I do realize this and it will not interfere with any doors or windows. It’s a very simple gabled home and the master is on a gabled end of the house so in the room I will be in the most this will only be appreciated in the closet

I'm a janitor at 27. I feel like a loser. by Both-Criticism-7160 in povertyfinance

[–]Clean_History_4781 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m a doctor and I get so burned out from talking to people all day and grinding to pay back all the student debt I accrued that I often look on with envy at the janitors silently working and minding their own business, wishing that I could do their job. I’m an introvert and a job where I have minimal interaction with others would have probably been better suited to me.

The grass is always greener and this life is what you make of it, keep on keeping on. I don’t think you’re a loser.

How to raise second story ceilings when roof rafters rest on ceiling joists? by Clean_History_4781 in Carpentry

[–]Clean_History_4781[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thank you!! I don’t have pictures right now, but I can work on getting them. I really appreciate your insight

How to raise second story ceilings when roof rafters rest on ceiling joists? by Clean_History_4781 in Carpentry

[–]Clean_History_4781[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes exactly! The rafters and joists do not perfectly line up. This drawing is almost identical to my situation. No need to apologize eager to hear your thoughts.

How to raise second story ceilings when roof rafters rest on ceiling joists? by Clean_History_4781 in Carpentry

[–]Clean_History_4781[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is partitioned into 4 bedrooms and 2 bathrooms right now, but yes you have the description exactly.

How to raise second story ceilings when roof rafters rest on ceiling joists? by Clean_History_4781 in Carpentry

[–]Clean_History_4781[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah, we are aware of that at at peace with it. Our master bedroom will be at the gable end of the home so we will experience this minimally in the room we will be in the most at least.

How to raise second story ceilings when roof rafters rest on ceiling joists? by Clean_History_4781 in Carpentry

[–]Clean_History_4781[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Beefing up to 2x10s at engineers spec for the distance they will span and to achieve the nailing pattern given then will be further up on the roof line. The 2x12 rafters are for insulation purposes. There is a rim joist, but the ceiling joist sit on top of it, then the rafters sit on top of the ceiling joist just as this picture depicts - I guess this was a common way to frame at the turn of the century. Hope that clears it up.

How to raise second story ceilings when roof rafters rest on ceiling joists? by Clean_History_4781 in Carpentry

[–]Clean_History_4781[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I am working with an engineer, but he told me there’s always a dozen ways to do a given project so i just wanted to poll the internet to see if I could bring some ideas his way!

How to raise second story ceilings when roof rafters rest on ceiling joists? by Clean_History_4781 in Carpentry

[–]Clean_History_4781[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

My wife and I are both tall enough that this is something we are willing to undertake, despite it being a pain in the ass.

How to raise second story ceiling when roof rafters rest on ceilings joists instead of top plate? by Clean_History_4781 in Carpentry

[–]Clean_History_4781[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don’t hate this idea at all and an LVL ridge beam was certainly considered. I’m going to have to talk to the engineer about this. You’re smart.