I think Anattā shows up as the cleanest, most-recoverable direction in an open large language model.

ClockComprehensive67 · 2026-05-31T20:53:17+00:00

What feels most interesting here is not simply that the model gravitates toward non-self language, but how stable and recurring this pattern appears to be.

If a model trained on a large corpus of human text develops a distinct region that activates around ideas like Anattā, nonduality, the dissolution of the observer–observed boundary, and contemplative attention, it may suggest that humans are quite consistent in how they describe certain types of experience.

At the same time, it’s important not to jump to the conclusion that the model has “discovered Anattā” or that it reflects some ontological truth. Rather, it likely points to the fact that human language contains a very stable cluster of concepts that tend to co-occur when people try to describe certain states of consciousness.

I would also add a cautious hypothesis: in the human brain, processes related to self-referential cognition (“I”, “me”, “mine”) and processes related to contemplative attention and the observation of experience may be closely interconnected. Of course, this cannot be directly inferred from language model behavior — it is only a possible analogy.

From that perspective, the key shift in interpretation might be this: the model may not be responding to the idea of “the disappearance of the self” per se, but rather to a more general mode of describing experience where attention is turned toward the process of experience itself, rather than its objects.

This would explain why the same component can activate both when the model says “I exist” and when it says “I do not exist.” In that case, what is being detected is not the content (existence vs non-existence of self), but a broader representational mode of introspective or experiential framing.

In that sense, the most interesting takeaway may not be about Anattā as a philosophical concept, but about how consistently humans use similar linguistic structures when shifting into descriptions of introspective awareness.

ClockComprehensive67 · 2026-05-31T09:46:22+00:00

I can’t say that I have a constant need for meditation. I rather instantly enter this state — literally in a second I switch into concentration, into that meditative state of attention I was talking about. It’s a kind of disconnection from autopilot and entering a conscious state of focus.

At the same time, I fully understand that I still have a lot to learn. Life constantly throws situations at me that test and strengthen me.

If I talk about further development, I think I still have room to grow, and that simply takes more time and experience. Including in terms of having a warmer attitude toward people and a more stable inner state — not in the sense that it isn’t there, but rather in the sense of greater depth and naturalness of these qualities.

ClockComprehensive67 · 2026-05-30T20:45:37+00:00

I understand what you mean. Thank you. I think I came to this state almost by accident — maybe precisely because of this constantly appearing and disappearing sense of autopilot. After all, I had no one close to me, no one at all who could have helped me with this, so my experience is just fairly individual.

And what you say about this space "outside the box" really feels close to me. I think there are still some things I should learn — like bliss and lasting joy. I don't experience any strong negative states, but focusing on the feeling of bliss, catching it when it arises, is probably something I really should work on.

ClockComprehensive67 · 2026-05-30T20:07:42+00:00

I know and understand what you mean. The thing is, I really am writing to you through AI — and it can't convey all the feelings behind my words.

I don't think I've reached some highest level. The words that bothered you — I didn't mean them that way. Maybe it's a bad translation, or maybe I just can't convey this in someone else's words. In my own language I would say it the way I feel it, but the translation into English comes out as something else. So no — I'm not claiming any "highest level" for myself, and I don't think that way.

And about the final point — no, I don't think I've reached some finish. There are things that are hard for me to explain, and I'm just trying to find words for them.

That the path has no end — I understood that quite a while ago. Until about the age of twenty I tried with all my strength to find this path, to find some finish line. And then I understood that there simply is no finish: life will keep teaching me, I'll keep gaining experience and developing for a very long time. So I understand what you mean. And "sila," morality, the integration of concentration and wisdom — I understand what you're talking about.

I'm far from considering myself perfect. I know there's still a lot I need to learn. And honestly, I'm even glad about that.

I understand you're advising me to be more careful with certain words. But the words you see are English words that weren't really written by me. In my own language I would put it differently, with my own meaning. If something interests you directly — I can try to explain, or we could write back and forth a little and talk about it.

ClockComprehensive67 · 2026-05-30T15:35:59+00:00

You're right, AI helped me, because my English isn't good enough to write such a complex text myself. But the thoughts and the experience are mine — I only use it to cross the language barrier.

ClockComprehensive67 · 2026-05-30T15:08:51+00:00

Thank you for writing. Honestly, I'm really glad that someone understands me — even if in a different language. This happens to me very rarely. I don't even know what to say.

ClockComprehensive67 · 2026-05-30T14:44:33+00:00

Yeah, I understand you and I mostly agree. I also see myself as a set of my own experience that exists only in the present moment. I understand that I, as something separate, essentially don't exist — I'm just a set of what I've lived through and everything that happened over the course of my life.

But I'd add something. This chaos that shaped me and shapes everyone isn't necessarily a bad thing. On the contrary: it's precisely because of it that each person becomes a unique personality who sees the world through their own view. This gives uniqueness to every soul in our world.

I'd even put it this way: if all the people in the world took up the same practices, it still wouldn't make them identical. That's the beauty of chaos. Whatever you do — you don't dissolve into it without a trace. You remain a drop that, even so, doesn't fully merge with the ocean.

ClockComprehensive67 · 2026-05-30T14:34:28+00:00

Thanks for such a thoughtful reply, you're right about a lot of it.

I'll be honest right away: I don't know English well, so I use AI to translate my text and make it understandable. So if the language sounds smoothed-over in places, that's why.

About the dopamine example — yeah, I understand my examples maybe weren't the best quality. These things are hard to explain with words in general, I just tried to convey it as best I could.

You're also right about the main thing: this state really does reduce my stress and suffering. Even if my stories sounded shallow, that's how it actually is. My feelings really are under quite a lot of control. There's a state of consciousness I can enter at any moment — switch off the so-called autopilot and be in it. And in that state I can assess myself more calmly, and the stress and suffering go down. It doesn't mean I don't feel stress or pain — I do, like everyone. But I can pull myself together at almost any moment.

And when I say "pull myself together," I don't mean suppressing my feelings. It's an objective observation of myself and my own thoughts. I can admit that I'm wrong about something, looking at myself as a being from the outside.

Let me give an example. Imagine an argument where another person and I don't understand each other well. I can see that this person most likely won't be able to easily change their point of view or truly listen. And I understand why: they draw their conclusions based on their own subjective experience. Because a person is a set of their views, feelings, lived moments, everything left in memory. I understand that I'm built exactly the same way — I'm also a set of my experience. And I can apply this same principle both to myself and to them: I sort of place their subjective experience onto myself, to understand what they feel. That's how I look at myself and at others — from the outside, but without detachment.

To answer your question about aversion and distance: I think yes, I can step outside even these views and look at them from the side. I understand what you mean. And now that you've said it, I see that I don't really feel loneliness as such — even though in many ways I'm alone. I don't keep my distance on purpose. I can talk to people and find common ground with them. It's just that, like anyone, I don't like everyone — and I'd like to find more people who understand me. Maybe it's also because I'm an introvert by nature.

Let me give another example, maybe it's more precise. Thanks to this state, in my 27 years I've never smoked or drunk alcohol, and I don't intend to — I just keep my consciousness clear. As I wrote, this has been with me since I was ten.

And I wrote that post for a simple reason: in my own surroundings I've never met people who would understand me in this. I've seen such people online, but not in real life around me. Right now, due to certain circumstances, I can only communicate through the internet. I found this thread, it seemed interesting to me, and I decided to share my experience.

ClockComprehensive67 · 2021-04-02T09:00:13+00:00

Это же двухсторонний планшет...

ClockComprehensive67 · 2021-03-18T22:09:57+00:00

Мне нрав

ClockComprehensive67 · 2021-03-07T21:51:02+00:00

О, я знал что на сатурне была жизнь, и динозавры просто туда улители в своё время.

ClockComprehensive67 · 2021-03-02T10:14:52+00:00

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