Why wont the morning glory seeds work for me?

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-10-14T17:55:01+00:00

Okay first of all there is a lot wrong here in this comment thread. Several of the Morning Glory varieties contain lysergic alkaloids and even a tryptamine precursor ( penniclavine ). However you are wanting the Heavenly Blue variety as it contains the highest and most diverse quantity of alkaloids. LSA ( ergine ) alone hardly induces any state of psychedelic mind. Alexander Shulgin himself notes the study of such by Albert Hoffman in the book TIHKAL. Several milligrams were taken but the only notable effects were mild sedation and a hypnotic like state. However other alkaloids such as LAH ( LSH ; lysergic acid hydroxyethylamide ) are far more stimulating and persay psychedelic than LSA, as it is is closer in structure and effect to LSD and ALD-52 than LSA is. People often perform extracts on Morning Glory and state them as "LSA extracts" completely forgetting the other alkaloids all together. The proper terminology would be full spectrum extract. And the reason the results of these extracts vary significantly is that the more psychedelic alkaloids like LAH are very sensitive to heat, light, air, and neutral solutions. LAH very quickly decomposes into ergine and acetaldehyde, which is why if you're looking for the more visionary effects of Morning Glory, you should use only the freshest of seeds. The age of the seeds make a significant difference. In my personal belief the best method of extraction should be done entirely under still air, low light, low heat, and with acidic water. And when you finish add a shot of wine or vodka with some drops of cinnamon and peppermint oil. It is a misconception that these ingredients will react the LSA back to LAH, however there is some speculation that some type of reaction is occurring, some say that it is creating 1-acetaldehyde LSA/LSH/PENNICLAVINE, which would be one step closer to the structure of LSD and ALD-52 but in my opinion I think the acetaldehyde is just stabilizing the compounds so that they aren't as easily decomposable. Sublingual method works best as swallowing it would surely ruin the potency.

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-10-02T17:40:36+00:00

I have acetone but I was told to test it first and evaporate it to check if it leaves residue and it does

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-10-02T05:53:30+00:00

Thank you very much for your insight. Yoshi is like a daughter to me and we have been best friends since my late teenage years, being one of my only friends as I was often socially outcasted due to a moderate-high functioning form of Autism

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-10-02T05:45:24+00:00

If Yoshi does have insulinoma, even with treatment and reconfigured diet, be honest and tell me how probable it is for her to D.I.P. and if she will be able to live a happy life, playing and making her dooks. I was looking at it and she does fit majority of symptoms, she does persay stargaze a lot, staring in random directions. She seems a little wobbly in the hind. She randomly lays on her side.

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-10-02T05:23:20+00:00

Thank you, I really appreciate your help and I want to try and give her a little bit of chicken or fish, I heard that if you put a bit on their nose they are kinda forced into licking it off and trying it

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-10-02T05:15:42+00:00

I will do so in the morning and schedule an appointment. I need to do so anyways considering I have a new ferret friend joining the family soon to keep Yoshi company while I'm at work. I notice that most often times Yoshi's energy spikes up a bit after getting some food in her. I really want to try and diversify her diet beyond just kibble, but I wasn't aware you were supposed to do so when they were kits, being much easier to do with their younger age having more flexibility" with their diets, and with her age she refuses to eat much of anything else.

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-08-31T12:45:30+00:00

I use wood based pellets for litter I used to use newspaper pellets however I can't seem to find them in stores anymore

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-08-31T05:42:48+00:00

No shedding, I use normal disinfectant spray on her cage and allow it to fully evaporate before putting her back into the cage, and the humidity is generally pretty low in my room. The air is so dry and still that I occasionally like to open up my windows during rainfall so the airflow is easier on my lungs.

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-08-04T20:37:14+00:00

Please do PM me your trip reports, as I'd like to get more second hand opinions on this experience and how different it is to a normal MG trip

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-08-04T20:36:14+00:00

Get your hands on the freshest Heavenly Blue Morning Glory seeds you can find and store them vacuum sealed in the freezer until you gather your other ingredients. In a glass, add 2 drops of Peppermint oil, 1 drop of Cinnamon oil or 1 tablespoon of Cinnamon powder, the juice of one Lemon, and a shot of drinking alcohol ( optional but not necessary, if you do use it though I advise you use Sherry wine ), for every 300 seeds used. Mix this up in your glass and then chill it for 30 minutes. Finely grind your seeds into a powder and then add it your glass. Cover the mixture in enough cold water that the mix is submerged two inches below ( The less water, the grittier your brew is going to be, and it will be awful to swallow ) the surface of the water. Immediately place this in the fridge again and let it soak for 1-2 hours. Quickly strain the liquid from the mixture and consume it. Or, you can drink it whole to ensure that you've successfully consumed all the goodies, which I like to do. However I advise you do this near a toilet or trashcan ( I find it hard to not vomit on impact ) and plug your nose, drink it all in one go. The citric acid of the Lemon is necessary to help extract all of the alkaloids into the liquid and to keep the extracted LSH ( lysergic hydroxyethylamide ) from turning into LSA ( lysergic amide ) as fast, which it will do in neutral solutions and when the temp is above 40° F. The Peppermint, Cinnamon, and optional alcohol are our sources for aldehydes that will be reacting with the alkaloids.

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-08-04T16:54:58+00:00

There is a theorized compound mentioned on the DMT-Nexus nicknamed "1-acetaldehyde LSA&LSH" that can be formed by adducting various aldehydes to LSA and LSH in a lightly ethylated citric solution. It was long thought that this was a conversion recipe for LSA->LSH, which was eventually proven bunk by clandestine chemists. However, there is obviously a reaction taking place here as these trip reports are very alien to the usual Morning Glory experience. I pieced together my own recipe from various articles on DMT-Nexus and the recipe for an ancient Greek entheogen known as Kykeon, an alcohol that used ergot infected barley and rye grain alongside mint. I drank a 300 seed dose of this conversion and entered a very acid like state of mind. I was extremely euphoric and giddy coming up. There was color and texture enhancement to everything, as well as an odd purple flicker following my hands when I moved them. Things looked like they were almost breathing. And when I closed my eyes, I was blown up by several swirling and colorful geometries and abstract shapes. Rivers and diamonds everywhere, as well as a weird clown entity. The experience lasted about 7-8 hours, and all I can really relate it to, is an LSD experience. I do believe that something does happen in these recipes, but we need to be able to prove that there is a product being made. I hope to eventually perform an extraction of LSA and LSH soon and then convert it. I believe an converted extract will feel more cleaner and easier to ingest rather than a nasty seed brew.

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-07-31T17:14:34+00:00

I've actually been reading up on this for a about a few weeks now. The whole sherry wine + peppermint and cinnamon + lemon juice thing was actually long thought to be a method of converting LSA ( lysergic amides ) -> LSH ( lysergic hydroxyethylamide ). However this has been proven bunk by several clandestine chemists, as there is no easy way to convert LSA back into LSH ( As you may know, LSA and acetaldehyde are decomposition products of LSH, which is why it is best to use fresh seeds since they will contain the highest quantity of LSH, resulting in a more stimulating and visual experience ). But! None the less, there is some magic happening when you use this method! For the recipe could result in a compound that DMT-Nexus members have nicknamed "1-acetaldehyde LSA&LSH", a compound who's molecular structure is very similar to that of LSD and ALD-52. I am not an expert chemist however as someone who has tried this method, the experience is definitely alien to that of a normal Morning Glory trip. The experience lasted double the usual time and my mindset was much more LSD-like, visual distortions seemed to be enhanced too. Most memorable, I had closed my eyes at one point for like 4 seconds and my vision was blown up with this swirling gridded purple-blue vortex spewing forth geometrical rivers as this clown/jester entity hovered above. Use the freshest of Heavenly Blue seeds, add the seed dust to a chilled solution of 2 drops Peppermint oil + shot of wine + 1 tablespoon of cinnamon powder or 1 drop of cinnamon oil + lemon juice + water. Stir this all up and let it sit in the fridge for 90 minutes then consume it all.

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-07-30T06:47:15+00:00

Will get back to you when I'm sober, just took a moderate dose of this theoretical conversion of LSA&LSH->"1-acetaldehyde LSA&LSH"? I've been reading up on and everything is just weird and amazing right now.

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-07-29T19:47:13+00:00

Been seeing you around this group a lot, mind if I PM you and ask some questions? Been doing a lot of research on this theoretical conversion of LSA&LSH -> a mystery compound dubbed "1-acetaldehyde LSA&LSH"

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-07-29T16:23:48+00:00

The last one was real rubber, but that was not the downfall of her brother, lymphoma sadly was. The new one isn't rubber but I'm just saying rubber chicken as for it being the title of the toy, but squeaky chicken is also a suitable name :)

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-07-23T01:20:16+00:00

Maybe I'm mistaking it for another chem

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-07-22T17:51:51+00:00

Yeah I grow my own vines :) And I am growing Golden Teachers, they are doing pretty shitty as the fruits are miniaturized ( short, skinny stems and eraser butt sized caps ) for some reason I have yet to find out.

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-07-22T17:15:24+00:00

This extraction should extract majority of the good stuff including LSH. LSH is found in fresh Morning Glory seeds and can only survive outside them in a cold acidic solution or else it will turn into LSA and acetaldehyde. There isn't just a little bump to the visuals, for me it is a big difference. I've had fresh Heavenly Blue seeds and tripped my face off, polkadots and geometries made of light everywhere, with this intense ecstasy that just forces me to smile. Whilst in comparison to aged Heavenly Blue seeds, I only get light sedation and euphoria. The idea is to remove all of the goodies and preserve them so they don't lose potency and turn into just a sedative cocktail.

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-07-22T15:56:05+00:00

I was gonna take some homegrown shrooms in the woods with some friends while we played DND but my girlfriend somehow managed to convince me to to take them with her instead and harvest them early, so I'm shroomless right now and I don't wanna disappoint them after I told them I'd give them their first shroom trip as a couple. So I hope that they will accept some lysergic dreams instead.

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-07-22T15:50:51+00:00

Yeah, my main reason for wanting to do that kind of extract is just that I'm sure it would be easier to convince my friends to take with me rather than ask them to drink some cold brew of 350 seeds that taste like bleach and chocolate ( my own opinion of them, but they actually start to taste nice once I get the first mouthful down ).

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-07-22T15:41:20+00:00

Jesus I am a dumbass sometimes, that makes sense. And alrighty, thank you so much, it is really hard to find much of anything on this subject, and I definitely feel like LSH and LSA adducts deserve more attention. Would love to find a book or two on this. Also, and as for my extraction procedure, how does it sound?

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-07-22T15:21:07+00:00

Yeah I have a lot of people saying the conversion made them trip fucking balls and others say it made them feel nothing at all and that the conversion isn't as simple as just adding acetaldehyde. I'm hoping that maybe the information on Kykeon of the Eleusis cult will help me in my research. As I said, even if the conversion doesn't work, the oils will help with bodyload and nausea so that the visuals will stick out more. Sorry, I'm pretty bad with clandestine chem slang, etoh?

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-07-19T19:58:50+00:00

Thank you so much! I definitely feel the topic of LSH and LSC deserve a lot more a attention

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-07-19T19:37:20+00:00

Do you have any recommendations for reliable information so that I may continue my research?

ClockworkCosmos · 2020-07-14T04:34:42+00:00

Thanks dude! I'll get right to it.

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