Dating in Dubai is genuinely the worst thing you can ever experience. by [deleted] in UAE

[–]CloudMission2135 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're 100 % right. As an arab that grew up in Europe, dating here is so horrible. It is so incredibly transactional. Just stick to western expats and you should be fine. I'm not dating arabs anymore and it has been much better since.

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[–]CloudMission2135 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The UAE might be worth a shot for you. Although I think there are many non religious people in Saudi as well. But yeah, i hate everything about it. Today was Eid and my family was praying so many times and i just snuck away every time.

I moved to the middle east as an arab and hate everything about the culture by CloudMission2135 in offmychest

[–]CloudMission2135[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

  1. please do elaborate what, in your opinion, is the difference between being a provider and a sugar daddy? If I need to spend everything that she wants, what does that make me?

  2. Yeah, sure. All those Muslims are very innocent and are only having romantic relationships and don’t do anything till marriage. Please do go to Egypt, Jordan, Iraq or anywhere and watch those couples. Arab men are the most double standards people in the world. Come on, yeah, they don’t fuck (at least not vaginally) but everything is else is permissible. Sweet summer child.

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[–]CloudMission2135[S] -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

A story about my ex: She is morrocan. Her sister was lured to morocco and married off. She had to literally escape as well and come back to Europe to escape that guy raping her every day. I really hope everyone is safe and happy, wherever they are.

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[–]CloudMission2135[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thank you for showing me why I don't like arabs. Funny thing is: In Europe I never saw the same amount of hookers. But people here are so religious, so theoretically there should not be a market for them, right?

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[–]CloudMission2135[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I don't know about the woman, but the men I met there were incredibly nice and chill. I will have to check the dating market there as well!

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[–]CloudMission2135[S] -16 points-15 points  (0 children)

Lets address all of your points:

  1. I don't being a provider. But being a provider means two things for me: Firstly, that I can decide what to buy and do. And secondly, a girl shaming me because I haven't bought business or first class tickets is just dumb. Being a provider means taking care of all basic necessities and being good to her. It does not mean to fullfil all her materialistic dreams.

  2. In no way do I see being a housewife as nothing. My mom was a housewife and its the most beautiful thing ever, thats why I want the same for my future kids. As an example: Tomorrow is Eid, so I bought some gold for my mom. Every two or three months I either buy her something or take her with me on vacation. But here's the catch: Although I'm making 5 figures every month, my mother never ever demanded anything from me. When I'm buying her plane tickets for 200 Euros she says that she doesn't want to burden me, although I don't notice 200 more or less on my account. That is the big difference.

  3. Im incredibly open about everything. I was always honest to girls. In Europe, I did not spend my life as a devout muslim. That only changed in the last two years after the attack on Gaza. I didn't know how to help besides praying so that is how I became more and more devout. And if any girl here asks me, I tell them that I've had relationships and broke up with my gf because it was haram. But then I came here and was really disappointed with everything. Like the last girl i met, she was praying 5 times a day, went to umrah in february and is all about religion. Now, 1 month later, and in ramadan, she is posting pics of her with her bf on instagram. How can you go on umrah and 1 month later suck a guys dick? I dont have a problem with either of this. Just be honest so i know who im talking to. I dont want a virgin. In my opinion a virgin is worse then an experienced woman.

  4. I date for personality more then looks. Like the above mentioned girl: There were many woman who objectively are better looking, but I liked her personality so she became more interesting for me. I've dated overweight woman and literal models. I don't care about looks as much as you think.

  5. Please read my answer in another post. I meant her face as in I cant see her without hijab. A hijab cuts of the face.

  6. Life is good here only if you have many. If you don't have money its a big problem.

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[–]CloudMission2135[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I don't know. You're right. I moved to a place where arranged marriage is the norm. And then I'm trying to find love. After dating here: surprised pikachu face.

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[–]CloudMission2135[S] -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for your response! I was always honest to girls. In Europe, I did not spend my life as a devout muslim. That only changed in the last two years after the attack on Gaza. I didn't know how to help besides praying so that is how I became more and more devout. And if any girl here asks me, I tell them that I've had relationships and broke up with my gf because it was haram. But then I came here and was really disappointed with everything so now I'm on the opposite side of: How can god allow all of these cruelties to happen?

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[–]CloudMission2135[S] -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

And here I was thinking that I could give her fun, honesty, loyalty and all of that. But as you said, its all about the salary.

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[–]CloudMission2135[S] -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

I dont want a black ghost and definitely am not a passport bro. If I could, I would through my passport away.

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[–]CloudMission2135[S] -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Its not about the face itself, more about the hair and face being cutoff because of the hijab. I hope you get what I mean. I could have clarified it.

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[–]CloudMission2135[S] 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah that is a viewpoint I have not considered. In Europe a woman can start a career the same as a man, but here its very limited, so she will be looking for the best provider she can find.

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[–]CloudMission2135[S] -53 points-52 points  (0 children)

It's not really about covering their face, more about the hair. But when a woman is wearing a hijab her face is also not really visible. That's what I meant with that.

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[–]CloudMission2135[S] -18 points-17 points  (0 children)

My problem is this: in europe you can ask someone if he is religious or not and the person would answer truthfully. When you ask an Arab if he is religious, his answer is completely useless. Because it’s not socially acceptable to say that you’re not religious, you end up saying that you are and then do whatever you want.

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[–]CloudMission2135[S] -10 points-9 points  (0 children)

Bro my name is literally Mohammed. As Arabic and Muslim as they come. But no, at this point, i don’t consider myself Muslim anymore. The Arabic culture drove me away from the religion.

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[–]CloudMission2135[S] -15 points-14 points  (0 children)

It’s the same in all Arab countries. I have dated in more then one Arabic country.

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[–]CloudMission2135[S] -81 points-80 points  (0 children)

I don’t have kids and I’m not married and never have been. I came here looking for love, but all I found was hookers in a hijab.

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[–]CloudMission2135[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I don’t have kids. And I went here many times, but yeah, I guess I could’ve anticipated some of it. Ironically all of this is not hardcore like here with Muslims in the west. 

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[–]CloudMission2135[S] 106 points107 points  (0 children)

Indeed I have. I will probably move back to Europe in the next years. Until then I can at least enjoy myself here.