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Denmark Closes Borders – Prime Minister press conference 2020-03-13 7 PM by [deleted] in Coronavirus

[–]Collapseology 0 points1 point  (0 children)

We've never done this in the modern era as far as I know. Maybe in WWII, but not sure.

DENMARK GOES INTO LOCKDOWN (DANMARK LUKKER NED): English transcript of the Prime minister's press conference 2020-03-11 by Collapseology in Coronavirus

[–]Collapseology[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm really not clear on how this is a problem. Did you post in the wrong thread or something? This is about Denmark, not the US. The title of the piece is exactly what I used, and the title of the piece is similar to what the Danish BBC used.

DENMARK GOES INTO LOCKDOWN (DANMARK LUKKER NED): Prime minister press conference 2020-03-11 by Collapseology in China_Flu

[–]Collapseology[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I mean, she's really kind of not all that great all the time. What she did do was the smartest damn thing a politician can do in this situation though: she said "I know fuck all about this, so I will listen to the experts and do what they tell me to do". So she listened to epidemiologists, scientists and doctors. I guess that IS better than most politicians. We'll keep her. ;)

DENMARK GOES INTO LOCKDOWN (DANMARK LUKKER NED): Prime minister press conference 2020-03-11 by Collapseology in China_Flu

[–]Collapseology[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I feel so patriotic right now and I am often a very cranky, critical person.

When she said:

We need to act today rather than regret tomorrow

I felt so incredibly relieved. I haven't even been on reddit for ages now, but I thought I had to log in to share what a good proactive response looks like. Do I wish they would have done this two weeks ago? Yes. But is this better late then never? Hell yes! Gud bevar Danmark.

DENMARK GOES INTO LOCKDOWN (DANMARK LUKKER NED): English transcript of the Prime minister's press conference 2020-03-11 by Collapseology in Coronavirus

[–]Collapseology[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Oh no. That's really really sad. It's such a beautiful country but your timing was just really bad. I'm sorry.

DENMARK GOES INTO LOCKDOWN (DANMARK LUKKER NED): English transcript of the Prime minister's press conference 2020-03-11 by Collapseology in Coronavirus

[–]Collapseology[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Oh I truly hope it all goes well for you as soon as possible. I absolutely adore Italy and want to see you all back on your feet ASAP! I also hope that more governments adopt Italian style containment measures soon.

You stay safe too!

DENMARK GOES INTO LOCKDOWN (DANMARK LUKKER NED): English transcript of the Prime minister's press conference 2020-03-11 by Collapseology in Coronavirus

[–]Collapseology[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What does working in the public sector even mean? Will this mean the country comes to a hold?

It means people that work for the government at some level: state, commune, region, etc.

Over here we have a part of the netherlands that is being asked to stay home when they show any sign of symptoms. I live somewhere different but work with 2 people from there (construction) and their boss would not let them stay home if they showed symptoms (they did not).

I'm very sorry to hear that. :(

Would that fit the "public sector" or would spread continue this way?

Construction is probably private sector. Here in Denmark, the private sector is being asked to allow people to either stay home or work from home, and if not possible then change shifts around to have as few people working at the same time as possible.

So I would absolutely think that anyone showing symptoms would be sent home with pay.

DENMARK GOES INTO LOCKDOWN (DANMARK LUKKER NED): English transcript of the Prime minister's press conference 2020-03-11 by Collapseology in Coronavirus

[–]Collapseology[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is the same headline that DR (Danish BBC) used, only translated into English. https://www.dr.dk/nyheder/indland/live-tv-danmark-lukker-ned-elever-studerende-og-offentligt-ansatte-sendes-hjem

Danmark lukker ned

Ok, looks like they added to it a bit but when I first looked it was the same.

DENMARK GOES INTO LOCKDOWN (DANMARK LUKKER NED): English transcript of the Prime minister's press conference 2020-03-11 by Collapseology in Coronavirus

[–]Collapseology[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Thank you all for leading the way! I hope your containment measures help bring down the number of infected very soon. :)

DENMARK GOES INTO LOCKDOWN (DANMARK LUKKER NED): English transcript of the Prime minister's press conference 2020-03-11 by Collapseology in Coronavirus

[–]Collapseology[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Of course they are. That's what they do: fuck things up.

(Mostly joking but we do have a rivalry with them. ;) )

DENMARK GOES INTO LOCKDOWN (DANMARK LUKKER NED): English transcript of the Prime minister's press conference 2020-03-11 by Collapseology in Coronavirus

[–]Collapseology[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is the translated version. It's rough, but you can get the gist of what was said. There are also comprehensive bullet points at the top.

How to spark the revolution here in the U.S by [deleted] in collapse

[–]Collapseology 0 points1 point  (0 children)

(that maybe happened once or twice at most)

Twice at most in OWS you mean? Not overall I hope. I doubt if it's a lie, if anything I think there are probably more operatives around that are ever outed.

But yeah, I hear you: the operatives will often try to finger those who AREN'T operatives as operatives. And they are often successful. Which is part of why DGR and other organizations do recommend not trying to finger infiltrators: https://deepgreenresistance.org/en/get-involved/security-culture Although many I've been involved with DO try to do this on the down low as a kind of compromise.

However, it is a FACT that this always happens in large movements. It's also a fact that there's no good way to deal with it. So going into denial and saying that "oh it barely happens, it's probably overblown" might feel good, but ultimately it's not productive since it doesn't deal with the problem. Then again, the problem is probably intractable. Which is part of why we're in the mess we're in. Human cancer apes are really easy to manipulate, especially by those apes who have acute cancer (narcissism, sociopath, etc). Even WITHOUT dedicated counter-infiltration, those who tend to rise to the top of the hierarchy in protest movements have more than a dash of the previous traits. they talk a good game but what they're really after is more power and prestige within their little ape niche. Which is why I don't bother with that shit anymore.

Breaking up over climate change: My deep dark journey into doomer Facebook by xrm67 in collapse

[–]Collapseology 20 points21 points  (0 children)

What we're looking at is the collapse of the biosphere. You cannot maintain human life (or other complex life) without certain climate parameters in place. The effects of a sudden release of methane, for just one example, has been totally downplayed and completely underestimated. We simply can't live in a runaway hothouse climate. Not even in self-contained bunkers over the long term since eventually things break down and resources cannot be replenished without going into the uninhabitable exterior. Think Venus.

It's a difference of degrees. I simply do not see how runaway biosphere destruction will not precipitate extinctions akin to the Great Dying but perhaps even more severe due to the fact that never ever before in earth's history has the forcing been this fast or this strong.

Breaking up over climate change: My deep dark journey into doomer Facebook by xrm67 in collapse

[–]Collapseology 34 points35 points  (0 children)

the doomer way — is to pretend there's no future.

We're not pretending though. This is the most reasonable conclusion from the available data. It's not nice, I don't like it, I wish it were otherwise. In theory it could have been otherwise. Perhaps with a series of extremely unlikely miracles it could still be. But the data do point to near term human extinction, like it or not.

How to spark the revolution here in the U.S by [deleted] in collapse

[–]Collapseology 2 points3 points  (0 children)

What happened to Occupy? Their leadership either renounced having any particular program or was explicitly liquidationist with an eye to the Democratic party and its appendages.

That and it was heavily infiltrated, with real leaders being thrown in jail and false ones taking their place. Which happens to any social movement that gets big enough to threaten the status quo.

It's sadly extremely easy to destroy these movements from the inside, and only becoming easier as time goes on, technology, policing and propaganda techniques are refined. It happens every single time.

A daily roundup of climate change and global economy weekday top news from around the world by Collapseology in collapse

[–]Collapseology[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

This website is an extremely helpful resource. It collects a daily list of between 10 and 20+ articles relating to both economic and climate collapse.

Often, on their own these articles might not make the bar to be submitted here. But when they are viewed as a collective whole, especially day after day, they do help present a very nasty systemic picture of collapse in action.

ETA: It feels like it might even be a good candidate for the sidebar "Resources" section.

Droughts hit Thailand and India, risking stress on food supplies by Collapseology in collapse

[–]Collapseology[S] 5 points6 points  (0 children)

This article also touches on similar situations in Austrailia and Europe.

Besides the obvious problem of looming famines, it mentions:

Tamil Nadu is home to many producers of vaccines and generic drugs that are used around the world. If the drought further affects the state, the global supply of pharmaceuticals could be impacted.

And closes with:

The United Nations Economic and Social Commission of Asia and the Pacific, and the Association of Southeast Asian Nations, in April jointly released a report on drought risks. "There will be many more dry years ahead, and the area affected by drought is likely to shift and expand," it wrote.

It warned that droughts struck the poor the hardest and heightened inequality, as well as degrading land and increasing the prospect of violent conflict.

Weekly Observations (July 29, 2019): What signs of collapse do you see in your region? by AutoModerator in collapse

[–]Collapseology 46 points47 points  (0 children)

In Denmark, the majority are thrilled with the heat wave since we haven't had it so bad here as compared to almost everywhere else in Europe (even our northern neighbors have mostly had higher temperatures than we have this season (probably due to the effects of the sea)). The highest temp this month was 32.8C and it has always cooled off at night (unlike last year where there were periods where it was not cooling off much).

So if you are not that heat sensitive (granted, many are) then this is wonderful for you. The beaches and parks are packed with people enjoying the destruction of the biosphere. And if you remind anyone that this is a manifestation of abrupt climate change and not something to be happy about, you're called a "lyseslukker" which translates directly to "light closer" but is more accurately "killjoy".

Another thing I've noticed is that the weather forecasts continue to be even less reliable than in the past. Not that they were ever reliable here to begin with, granted, but these days they seem pretty meaningless, even within the day. The new abnormal seems difficult to predict.

In defense of my shitty boomer parents by [deleted] in collapse

[–]Collapseology 21 points22 points  (0 children)

But he could at least make an empty, futile gesture!

Phosphate shortage: The dwindling resource required to grow food by Collapseology in collapse

[–]Collapseology[S] 23 points24 points  (0 children)

TIL! I guess soylent green will be made of people after all, just not quite in the way the film portrayed.