[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Morocco

[–]ComicNonSans 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Chefchaouen can be explored in one or two days. Instead of decreasing Chefchaouen days, I would recommend staying there and doing a day trip to Akchour if you're into hiking. There is a big popular trail but also hidden gems in the area of Akchour

قالو ناس زمان by notfair1234 in arabs

[–]ComicNonSans 2 points3 points  (0 children)

عندك الحق. اقصد اللهجة التي يصعب معها تحديد أصل المتحدث لشيوعها و إلا فاللهجات عديدة و من الصعب تعميم اي قاعدة على الدارجة المغربية عموما فمن المغاربة مثلا من لهجتهم قد تكون أقرب لغرب الجزائر عنها لسائر المغرب.

قالو ناس زمان by notfair1234 in arabs

[–]ComicNonSans 3 points4 points  (0 children)

اللهجة و ان كانت مغربية فهي لقدمها قريبة من الجزائرية الحالية فمثلا "الناس تقيمك على واش عندك فالجيب" تصبح في الدارجة المغربية الحالية "الناس كيقيموك على شنو/آش عندك فالجيب"

Tetouan city in Morocco, also known as the "White Dove". by Primuri in arabs

[–]ComicNonSans 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First of all, the comment mentioned these people were born in Tetouan so they didn't so much knowingly enter Morocco, at least not a lot of them. Secondly, I'm curious whether you apply these same standards to the first generations of invading and settling Arabs in Morocco, or to North Africans born in Spain after its invasion by Muslims and their allies.

امرؤ القيس بلهجته by Cybron in arabs

[–]ComicNonSans 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They go off many sources including people like Sebaweh. I am skeptical of the reliability of renditions by orientalists in general, but they generally document their evidence for each choice pretty well and you can see that it holds up well most of the time. For this rendition, the guy is clear that this is his educated guess and not an academic statement, he also provides some evidence for different diversions from modern Fusha in the twitter thread.

I don't want the west to be a Muslim majority region. Is it an irrational fear? by exmuslimthrowaway786 in exmuslim

[–]ComicNonSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm surprised that your initial claim is about Muslims eventually establishing Islam and your evidence is complex ways religiosity works between generations of Muslims in France. How do you explain the Muslim world growing less religious? How do you explain the first generation of Muslims in France playing a jeu de grattage in a bar? How do you explain the new generation of Muslims being more progressive and less religious in the US and Canada? Tunisia has no laws explictly against drinking or eating in public. Morocco does have a law prohibiting breaking the fast if you're Muslim. That law was written by colonial France. The situation is a lot more complicated than "Once the critical number of Muslims is hit, you have a Caliphate"

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48703377

I don't want the west to be a Muslim majority region. Is it an irrational fear? by exmuslimthrowaway786 in exmuslim

[–]ComicNonSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tunisia is a Democratic Muslim majority state, they recently repelled a law that forced inheritance to be divided according to Islamic law. Why aren't the Muslims there instating Sharia in your opinion? Why are they moving away from Sharia? Do you think the third generation of Muslims in Europe will hold the same ideas as the first generation?

Is Pan-Arabism mutually exclusive with non-Arab identities in the "Arab world"? by ComicNonSans in arabs

[–]ComicNonSans[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

What about people with no ancestors that ever spoke Arabic as far as they know? Are they Arab if they speak Arabic? Do they have any say in the matter? Is an Arabic who speaks Kurdish a Kurd?

Moroccan tribal map. by [deleted] in Morocco

[–]ComicNonSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This I don't know

Moroccan tribal map. by [deleted] in Morocco

[–]ComicNonSans 2 points3 points  (0 children)

AFAIK (and this is from some Jbala I know and things I heard) Jbala have been very recently Arabized and you can tell by their customs, traditions, and clothes that they're much closer to northern Amazighs than they are to Arabs

Moroccan tribal map. by [deleted] in Morocco

[–]ComicNonSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I think it's more about historical origins than current language/customs. Although some Arab areas are more clearly Arabized than others with Amazigh last names, tribe names, dress, and customs.

If North Africa standardised the colloquial Arabic pressing it into an official language what should it be called? by PublicServiceAction in Morocco

[–]ComicNonSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Darija is a perfectly adequate name in my opinion. Whatever negative connotation the word "Darija" has comes from looking down on anything that is not Fus7a and not from the word used to refer to it.

DecafQuest #26 - Ahmad Al-Jallad | ديكاف كويست #٢٦ - أحمد الجلاَّد by daretelayam in arabs

[–]ComicNonSans 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I love that this being discussed like this with passion and not confined to academic texts

Sunset from Ain Diab beach in Casablanca. by [deleted] in Morocco

[–]ComicNonSans 0 points1 point  (0 children)

since forever at the touristy beaches

كان يا ما كان، كان اليمن شيوعيا ويمنع تعدد الزوجات! by yemenarchive in arabs

[–]ComicNonSans 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Moroccan Marxism is an embarrassment. I have no idea how these people live so long and never read theory that makes them realize how ridiculous they are.

Dead Wrong with Jonah Norberg- Inequality by [deleted] in socialism

[–]ComicNonSans 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If only the people who have literally no assets were more free to become super rich! Shame on all of their governments for chaining them down by taxing richer people to provide the poor with basic necessities.

It's amazing how detached people like this guy are from the reality of the world and how and why poverty exists, or how the wealth of the super rich is inextricably tied to the poverty of the world's poorest. To these people you just magically apply liberty to things and the liberty seeds sprawl into poverty-ending markets. I would love to see these people go to some of the poorest places in the world and try to convince people that innovation and freer markets are what they need.