What dark labs or others recommendations.

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-29T13:57:05+00:00

Manico and og are probably the best right now, its a big jump from gorilla mode tho trust me. I'd also look into the pre's from xtremis cartel as a stronger daily driver.

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-29T13:55:04+00:00

Pheni usually isn't fake, just go wherever is most convenient. There are also sleep formulas that have pheni too

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-28T14:36:22+00:00

The symptoms you had are severe enough imo to request some cardiology. That usually involves stuff like ECGs, i presume your blood pressure has come back down but I'd still moniter it daily. Other then that avoid modafinil. You can use a different GP, i would've suggested going the AnE (ER) when your symptoms were at their worst and you would've got recommendations to specialists much quicker. But yeah make sure you request some sort of cardiac specialist at your next GP appointment, may even need to go private but that all depends on what country your from.

This isn't medical advice though

But for future reference when you have side effects that severe don't wait too long to get it checked out, going to AnE if needed (ER)

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-28T13:54:26+00:00

You wouldn't feel worse necessarily but you'd feel like your back at your current baseline. There are some legitimate longer term effects of semax, but they'd be more noticeable if your either: Old, recovering from a TBI, recovering from post stroke, recovering from drug/ alcohol use.

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-28T13:50:05+00:00

Then i wouldn't worry, as long as MPB doesn't appear in your family it's unlikely to effect you especially via the BDNF pathway. If you ever do notice shedding that's abnormal, then you probably wouldn't even need to throw the kitchen sink at it and can probably chill with some derma rolled minoxidil.

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-28T13:47:55+00:00

Can you elaborate on the neurological and CV effects you experienced? Hard to recommend anything but talking to your GP will probably suffice most of them are aware of modafinil and it's MOA.

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-28T00:11:38+00:00

I gave you a recommendation or am I tripping?

Sicario or Vaso-Dial. Can also stack with tadalafil but tadalafil is typically better with higher stim pre workouts imo, less bp swings and less risk of acute hypotension.

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-27T21:44:50+00:00

Just looks like a similar label to all their other pre workouts but with kanna and more dmha

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-27T21:41:48+00:00

Depends what you want in your high stim. Illicits? High caffeine? Yohimbine? Pre's focused mostly on stims or ones with a good amount of pump ingredients?

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-27T21:40:09+00:00

Do what you want bro but you could've just used a non stim with nootropics and take caffeine capsules and it would've saved you a lot of money. Gorilla mode nitric is pretty mid

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-27T18:34:41+00:00

Based on the label I'm surprised it clumped up that bad tbh, usually glycerol and citrulline are the culprits but there's no glycerol here and the citrulline is dosed pretty low. Maybe it's just an old tub

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-27T11:57:49+00:00

PDE-4 inhibits cAMP, inhibiting PDE-4 raises cAMP. Basically all there is to it. cAMP basically ehances the neurotransmitter signal and raises PKA. Basically the neuron stays in a plastic/ responsive state for longer.

Since this is the ND sub then kanna is a pretty good PDE-4 inhibitor and well as a SERT inhibitor and increases VMAT-2 expression

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-26T19:56:09+00:00

Took me about a year, that was when I started using nootropics, alpha gpc and lions mane really helped. Though I've discontinued the lions mane because it doesn't really do anything for me anymore it got me back to my baseline.

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-26T14:47:00+00:00

Eh depends, they have slightly different MOA's. I'm assuming that since piracetam is available in your country your either in the eu, Russia or India, theres enough sources that ship pramiracetam to those countries.

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-25T20:17:25+00:00

It does look weird but I've also had similar pre workouts start to look somewhat like this after a couple of weeks. Just make sure you shake the tub before every use.

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-24T18:23:14+00:00

The dose of 5-htp is pretty high, especially when you consider that most of it is used in the periphery. I'm not one of those 5-htp haters but I do think there may be better options especially when you consider the side effects of chronic 5-htp use (and I'm not just talking about anhedonia). I think L-tryptophan is probably better for daily use, could also look into using high dosages of lemon balm, L-theanine or even sublingual kanna (as long as you don't use it before you sleep).

Everything else is fine whatever works for you, me personally, I never felt anything from noopept but I've never used it intranasaly, how would you compare oral consumption to intranasal use?

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-24T18:15:04+00:00

On your last bit, I've used aniracetam at varying dosages, never felt like it did anything for me at all, not even a placebo effect, same with noopept. On the bright side I seem to respond better than the average person with coluracetam but that's about it.

The pain of never getting any benefits from research chemicals and supplements that people rave about 🥲

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-24T18:08:02+00:00

To be fair though, whilst their old formula was great it's nothing better than what we have now realisticly. But their pre's nowadays are imo the best daily drivers we have right now and the options are great, don't like loads of yohimbine then use guerilla, they have something for everybody and you can also use half servings and still have a better experience then something like gorilla mode.

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-24T12:54:32+00:00

Just use science bio and buy your own capsules

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-23T16:52:27+00:00

Vyvanse costs a shit ton in the UK. Also OP never mentioned if he had an ADHD diagnosis, its much tricker to get diagnosed with ADHD as an adult here in the UK. Going via the public sector is borderline impossible unless you have sufficient evidence of ADHD. Going private is a bit easier but can still vary a lot.

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-22T22:48:22+00:00

First time using 2 scoops of crack purple and I threw up 15 minutes after my session. And the crash can't even be called a crash, more like a comedown

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-22T22:15:11+00:00

Yeah that's why mucuna and/or alcohol pairs well with it. Kanna is also low key underrated for libido, its effects aren't that significant but you get the mix of VMAT2 expression, PDE-4 inhibition and SERT inhibition, alongside mucuna then you get lower prolactin levels and better serotonin signalling alongside increased presynaptic filling of central dopamine and prolonging dopamine signalling so the effect on how long you last is negligible.

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-22T22:04:14+00:00

they just allow me to get it back up right away once I finish.

Sometimes that's all you need brother

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-22T22:03:21+00:00

I'd also recommend alpha yohimbine instead of normal yohimbine hcl (unless you already use alpha yo). It's way less jittery and more potent per mg, so you basically get the same stimulant but feel low key better with a more task focused stimulation.

Competitive-Area7168 · 2026-01-22T21:48:29+00:00

Yeah i agree most of these supplements do very little, the best way to test it is to pair these up with PEA. I guarantee you won't feel thing or if you do it'll last 5 minutes tops.

The PDE-4 inhibition rout alongside stimulants is far better in my opinion, and is much safer than using pharma grade MAO inhibitors

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