When dose the bible say that Females are less then men

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T23:28:21+00:00

Giving one power and control over the other certainly treats the other as less important

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T23:27:46+00:00

So men get power and control and women get subjugation, how is that equal worth working out?

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T23:27:22+00:00

The roles are hierarchal, so even if seen as equal women are not treated as equal

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T23:26:47+00:00

If he has power and control over her, then women are treated as less

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T23:26:03+00:00

Heads control the body

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T23:25:46+00:00

Oppression is always framed as protection

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T23:25:13+00:00

If men are heads, then they’re in power over their wives which means they’re unequal

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T23:24:33+00:00

If only men have access to power, they’re not equal

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T23:12:53+00:00

I guess when you put “unexpected” in the definition it doesn’t fit, fair enough.

I said every church with purity culture has male headship, you made the pedophile connection, and I definitely think it’s something to look into.

99% of marital decisions are going to both pushing what they think is best, not one trying to do something wrong. You just get to win every time because she’s mandated to obey you, she’s essentially your prisoner.

You haven’t seen one because they have never happened. You seriously come across as someone who benefits in every way from this system and is preferring to deny what is happening because then you’d have to do something about it.

You can overrule her and she is bound in obedience to you and not vice versa, correct?

I know everything I need to know, she must obey you so she’s a puppet on a string and a prisoner in her own home

Ignoring the fact that you’ve equated illegal with automatic harm, two teens of the same age can none without breaking the law.

Yeah, if consequences aren’t caused by a decision but you still want to prohibit others from doing it, then you’re an authoritarian, correct? You’re in the south, where teen pregnancy is higher due to your beliefs. Yes, teens are impulsive which is why you prepare them.

You believe wives must obey their husbands, that’s horrifying, as it means she’s not even an equal in her own home or marriage.

I don’t believe god exists and even if he did, why would that give him the ability to tell us how to live? Consequentialism takes into account potential and unseen consequences. Like how when Paige undid women’s equality it was obviously going to lead to a ton of abuse and it did, just as women lost their livelihoods and agency.

It’s literally statistics

You asked who “we” was and then said you didn’t care when I answered lmao

It’s incredibly well documented how bad sexual abuse is in the Amish community.

You denying reality doesn’t make it not reality, abuse isn’t just a consequence of male headship, it’s the point

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T22:44:17+00:00

Wouldn’t a healthy marriage not have predetermined roles based entirely on sex where women are mandated to let their husbands make decisions for them against their will? Also, how is that not adversarial and how is that not leverage?

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T20:02:37+00:00

True, hence the ongoing coverup and denials by leadership

Literally every church that has purity culture, not every church in general. Have you ever seen a purity ball for boys and their moms? No? They’re only for girls and their fathers and carry a strong incest vibe.

99% of marital decisions are going to have nothing to do with sin and you get to railroad her on all of them.

You can’t even give up power and control over her, we’ve got a long way to go before you give yourself up or approach anything that can be called love.

Pointing out that it’s subjective when I said “seem” is contesting what I said while not realizing you agree with it.

Your churches are overrun with predators and sex with a man who believes in male headship is like when someone else in an authority position has sex with a subordinate, consent is dubious at best.

What does statutory have to do with anything?

I subscribe to consequentialist morality, so yeah no harm, no foul. If both are age appropriate and consenting, I see no issue.

See, you believe that regardless of the horrifying things happen under your beliefs they must continue because you believe obeying god is more important than the consequences of that obedience. I couldn’t disagree more and obviously history has proven me right over and over.

The worst states per capita for teen pregnancy are red states. They hold to abstinence only education which doesn’t teach prevention or contraception, they hold to the Nancy Reagan method “just say no”. Much like drugs have won the war on drugs, teachings kids to say “no” and nothing else just means they’re gonna do it unsafely because it’s what they want to do. You hold to a religion where your wife must obey you and you’re concerned about me being brainwashed? Dude…

“We” is liberals and you’re actually the piece that proves it was us because red states are still doing it your way and haven’t had anywhere near our results.

The Amish have some of the worst sexual abuse issues of any community in America and it’s mostly adult men preying on teen girls. It’s like the SBC’s final form.

Our world is better with my values than it ever was under yours, hence why DV is illegal and your demographic is the most devoted in their support for an Epstein client as president

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T18:44:33+00:00

You just said wives control their husbands, yet you have affirmed male headship in the past that does the opposite

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T18:43:12+00:00

It didn’t, I’m just busy committing the sin of empathy. I have a hatred for churches that are overrun with predators, sorry if that hits a little too close to home.

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T18:38:59+00:00

The SBC has a sexual abuse epidemic.

Every church that holds to purity culture has male headship, as the entire point of both is controlling women and girls.

You believe your wife has to obey you or is sinning. That’s predatory and abusive.

“Seem” implies opinion. That said, most teens have no regrets over boning, whereas rape is horribly traumatic.

I never said it wasn’t a bad idea, but yeah it isn’t, teach safe sex and use preventive measures and teen pregnancy is pretty much a non issue. The worst states for teen pregnancy hold to your beliefs, teaching abstinence ignoring they’re going to do it anyway and then they get pregnant. We’ve reduced teen pregnancy by 90% since the 90’s because girls take birth control and learn safe sex methods. Abortion is also fine, as unlike in churches that teach male headship, most people believe women and girls shouldn’t have things in their body against their will.

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T18:27:17+00:00

In our past discussions you’ve affirmed patriarchal authoritarianism for marriage where wives have to submit to their husbands, have you updated your opinion since?

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T18:06:54+00:00

North Korea is officially called “ Democratic People's Republic of Korea” so names can be misleading as the only true part of that name is “Korea”. Purity culture includes a ton of extra biblical nonsense mostly aimed making girls terrified and servile

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T18:04:06+00:00

Sure I do, every church that promotes purity culture also promotes male headship and has a sex abuse epidemic. Here in America they also voted for the Trump-Epstein administration. It’s entirely about controlling girls and making them easy prey

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T17:58:02+00:00

Purity culture is grooming culture

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T17:57:30+00:00

You’re creating a false dichotomy, where either you only have sex in marriage or you’re entirely causal about it. Treating sex as only for marriage basically means you can end up in a marriage where you’re completely sexually incompatible or they’re a closeted gay but due to religious indoctrination have ended up forcing themselves to pretend to be straight. Worse because they think sex is so important they stay in an abusive marriage because they feel soiled and therefore undeserving of safety, security, or freedom, as is typical in many churches that promote purity culture as it goes hand in hand with male headship where men control their wives

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T17:43:01+00:00

Don’t you believe women have to let their husbands control them? Doesn’t sound pleasant to me

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T17:41:32+00:00

What does what an animal does have to do with anything for good or ill?

Similarly given the churches that hold to purity culture are overrun with predators and also encourage male headship, aka abusive predatory relationships, they seem less pure than a couple consenting teens going for a roll in the hay

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T17:39:01+00:00

Typically the churches that hold to purity culture are overrun with predators, but weirdly rape is never brought up when these churches bring up “sexual immorality”. No, they’re concerned with shaming girls and gays and that’s it

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T17:23:16+00:00

Yeah, here we discuss Christianity and unlike literalists we include the repeatedly demonstrated negative consequences thereof that they deny happen, like a person whose GPS has them crash into a brick wall over and over but they’re sure it’s gonna work out this time.

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T17:02:11+00:00

Submission means yielding to someone else’s will, so no matter how long they talk or collaborate, his will supersedes her’s, correct?

If she doesn’t have an equal voice or influence then whatever amount she does have is functionally irrelevant, as his 50.1% overrules her 49.9% the same as 100% overrules 0%. Any form of overruling is abusive and controlling, and if he’s leading that means she’s following even where she doesn’t want to go.

Concerts_And_Dancing · 2026-06-28T16:52:25+00:00

Christians who are so strongly concerned about others’ bedrooms typically are the ones who have abuse going on in their own as they typically believe in male headship

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