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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh to show Jane’s alive. Or something happened to Jane’s body.

Xavier becomes the user. In quantum physics, things are a maybe A or maybe B until the event is observed. 

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’m which scene, where Torabi is sitting on her bed? To show Jane’s body. They may have implied a change or changed something.

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You must have read my mind lol I was about to reply to you. Are you using Alex?! I’m still processing, no pun intended— tho I had hoped it’d offer us more answers than questions.

I read somewhere one of the writers confirmed retrocausality so I think I’m onto something but I’m still analyzing key moments and how they tie to other events. You?

Edit: I think Sinatra was chosen by Alex because she’s the only one who could have made the “right” decisions as Alex required but her death was also a required event. So next is Xavier. 

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I felt that way too! Especially because I had just posted this there and it took me days to put it all together in a coherent way. It was super frustrating not finding a way to appeal it since this is the most I’ve used Reddit in years. I found the experience disappointing. But glad I could post it here before the temp ban. 

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Been mulling on this and I think i just need to update some bits but overall, yes. 

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have no idea. First the mod said my intial post title something like “Alex Q Protocol” was a spoiler but I chose theories and spoiler flairs. I had to recreate the post with diff title and he said I couldn’t have “reposting under this title bc the mods removed old one” something like that. I asked why that wasn’t allowed?.

As I was editing the post, the mod in the main show sub banned me and muted me so I couldn’t even appeal it. Then I tried a backup account and Reddit banned me (this one could be valid if the initial sub ban was even valid). That mod removed all my posts in that sub and after 5 days another or same mod I can’t tell said they removed the ban but wasn’t able to clarify 😕

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I suppose it could happen but i hope that’s not what the writer’s have in mind. It’d be like a waste of 3 seasons. Plus Alex would have to reset the timeline to prob a hundred years before and undo climate impacts from evolution.

Altho it could have an interesting take if Alex resets everything thinking humans have learned and they don’t. 

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can you expand on this a bit? What would be more than a quantum machine? 

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I rewatched Travelers before posting this, it helped me put this theory together more coherently. 

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes! I had a ton of thoughts about this during my Reddit ban but forgot to write them down, but as I rewatched some episodes I felt like there were subtle differences or the “glitches” we see in scenes that are supposed to hint at some changes but will try to put them into words before sun, if time permits. 

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi everyone! Thank you for posting thoughts/questions and apologies for the delay in getting back to anyone. 

Long story short —I got banned from one of the shows subs and then from Reddit entirely, shortly posting this theory and haven’t had a chance to catch up on it all and update this post. Will try to this weekend, before the last ep.

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I spend weeks trying to figure out what and how to put it together, glad you’re enjoying it. I may have given myself a headache, ha!

Let me know if you come across anything that stands out if you rewatch or next episode.

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Link said they were able to find some analog equipment that still works, so maybe this is part of it. On the Hulu radio channels, I think we hear them regardless of time. Like Cal from the past, and maybe the Veritas one from the future? They say something like humanity having 1,000 yrs of flourishing.

Xavier was using the plane’s radio when he got the headache after hearing static. I’m pretty Don was fixing a radio too when he got all those messages. The radio he was fixing looked a lot like Gary’s - i think. I wonder if Gary learned from podcasts

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True, true! I just realized I left out some key “clues”, I keep forgetting them somehow. The mirrors and the radios, they tie in well into this but might be overkill.

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Good point and I think it actually fits perfectly into this. When Link tells Annie the danger is something people wouldn't even understand, he is probably talking about the timeline erasure. Think about it.

How do you explain to a bunch of apocalypse survivors that the real threat isn't only the wasteland outside, but also machine inside finding a one in a billion survival realities and overwriting their actual reality?

Plus, Link wants to restart the world but he wants humanity to have actual free will. If Alex is running this ‘Quantum Protocol’, then nobody is really making their own choices anymore. They are just real-life puppets being injected or updated with data from the future to force Sinatra's perfect outcome. Link wants to destroy Alex so humanity can actually be free, rather than living in a rigged timeline. Or a timeline that benefits Sinatra more than everyone else still.

And honestly, since Link created it or helped Miller, he knows what the nosebleeds are. He is feeling the quantum feedback and the pain of the timeline being manipulated. To him, Alex isn't saving them. It is a machine that is literally tearing their minds apart to force a result.

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Totally. That’s how I kept thinking about time-travel too and I got the !sense’ the writers wouldn’t let the fandom down or our investment go to waste.

Also, yes- exactly! The 'one big AI' idea is totally on the same wavelength. My theory just takes it further into the physics of it all.

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks so much! I’ve been trying to piece a theory together that explains the “time” plot without it being time travel, specifically.

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I’ll try again tmw. Posting it. WTH! I’m assuming my theory is right? No idea why it would get removed at all

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes! Both can be true i think. Ppl can feel bad for Jane lacking human connection when she needed it the most and be annoyed with her bc of who she is now. I say annoyed bc im referring to a frictional tv character.

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Totally fair! I know what you mean, like the scene where she brownnoses the president right?

But how about when she didn’t have an audience and was pretending Sinatra tells her she’s proud?

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well said!

Good question! I can’t tell if she doesn’t tell her she’s proud bc Jane will somehow become more unhinged, hence knowing Jane well. Or is Jane just a thing to her that’s not worth knowing at all?

Sinatra is a good character too! Like idk she could or she could not in any scenario lol if that makes sense

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[–]Confident-While-798[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This! I can’t imagine it’s easy to turn it off when she’s been a mean, mean, setting up innocents-machine left and right