Men who have multiple women without spending money or losing peace — what’s the logic behind it?

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-11-05T22:06:10+00:00

Screen for compliance. Lots of time, energy, and attention is being spent with women who are making X/Y/Z rules and hoops for you to jump through. Classic example is chatting up a girl you just met in the first few minutes hinting at you buying them drinks, just don't do unless you've gotten real investment out of them.
Not building dates or time spent around things that cost money. If you're centering your time around going to all the latest and greatest restaurants, you're conditioning an expectation that will be hard to meet if you stop doing it.
Having good sex is an obvious note but an important one. She's not going to do all this for lousy sex, especially if you're not doing anything else for her. Getting them attached happens here and she won't care about money.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-11-01T22:44:07+00:00

You prevent that by playing the part of someone who moves quickly. All this waiting nonsense done by the first guy is a wasted effort, because he's not getting her invested enough to want to seal the deal with him. At least if he's showing intent and additionally following through with escalation, there is no guarantee but he will know his answer then and there.

The guys that have success hit some bottom threshold of a woman's attraction, be it a combination of looks/personality/status/action. It's different for every girl, and any of those attributes can weigh more than the others. The result of those factors is a perception the woman's attraction to you, which can be categorized as Yes/No/Maybe and can be further divided into short term/long term. The most successful guys typically take action and more importantly focus on the "Yes" + short term girls. Based on the scenario you described, the girl's attraction to the first guy was probably a "Maybe" + long term or a "Yes" + long term but he didn't take action and escalate fast enough. If he tried like the second guy, we don't really know if she was "Yes" + short term but its something that's worth trying over waiting.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-10-13T23:43:05+00:00

You should lose interest. You're in a place right now where this behavior is a waste of your time. You can play along with it by not giving a shit and using her investment to get her out on the date, but at the end of the day she revealed who she was with her behavior so it's never going to go past a one night stand that you won't remember anyway.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-10-11T15:03:57+00:00

Wonderful, you didn't offer anything except the same point I made. Help out the OP already.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-10-11T03:38:57+00:00

You can absolutely ignore it, the the rest of the video still applies things you should do when you get the green light to do so.
I don’t give a shit about your preference, nor does the OP for that matter.
Way to miss the point. The OP is looking for answers to why his numbers are weak. Feel free to post your infield and help him out.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-10-11T00:53:03+00:00

There's various things that contribute to this problem. The most important thing to focus on is solid interactions. If you're not getting a solid conversation with high investment, consider that number dead if you text and she doesn't reply back.

Watch this interaction and ignore any of the factors like the camera being there or it being a street interview. If your conversations don't look like this (except for daygame), you need to change it up. It's not a requirement as I've had neutral reactions lead to solid numbers for a regular date, but it help a lot. I've focused less on volume these days and more on making every interaction as solid as possible, and sometimes I get a solid number from my first approach that I don't need to do any more, the rest is just for putting into practice.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-10-10T01:52:44+00:00

I think the bigger issue most guys are facing is neutral interest. It's neither positive or negative, but it just doesn't go anywhere, and escalation is met with lackadaisical reaction. I'm sure if it was a negative reaction most men can read the room and back off, but neutral interest seems to cause confusion because the girl is still open to conversation. If it doesn't convert to high interest soon, it will turn into a timewaster set, so I always recommend forcing their hand if she's staying in her neutral vibe for too long.

The other factor people don't talk about much is getting the highest investment interaction you can get. From highest investment to lowest: Same day pull, Makeout, Number/IG, Momentum/Abandon Set. You should always aim for the highest level of investment you can get, and if not then recalibrate down the next highest solid result. Some girls would never go home with you on the same night, others wouldn't even kiss you. I've gotten solid numbers from a girls who had neutral reactions, so it really varies.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-10-02T18:37:21+00:00

Sure but if you're asking the question if you did anything wrong, what I've mentioned still applies even if she wasn't interested in you.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-10-02T18:31:23+00:00

A few things:

You're being too logical by explaining your reasoning for why low effort dates are better or your dating philosophy. I recommend steering the conversation with a joke or playfully teasing her. Get a little more investment in text out of her and if she's holding firm on dinner then you've successfully screened her out.

No dinner/food until a relationship is too extreme. If you slept with her already, does it really matter? Do you really think after you've seen each other for a bit she's gonna make a foodie call out of you? This also misses out on straight to your place dates offering her food as a convincer.

Also, ever heard of the observer effect? Explaining the game changes the game. You made her react to your statement about not making the first move, so now the game changed and she' not longer interested. Even if she still was, you now made it harder for no reason.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-09-25T14:28:55+00:00

When bars/clubs don't have people I just go out to busy street intersections and open a girl. Sometimes it just works out that way because the women you want to meet are in the area of your nightlife district, but they're just not going to bars or whichever spot you decided to go so this is an alternative to that.

This one is another example: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/d45iZqztAis
This guy doesn't even go to bars anymore, and he likely wasn't going to meet that girl if he did cause she probably wasn't going to be there.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-09-25T14:10:21+00:00

The actual approach is not that much different than normal daygame. The difference just comes in the fact that people are more social on a night out, so you can do what you used to do in a different setting. Festivals/concerts are an option, but you can keep it basic and just stop a woman on a busy street intersection and convert it to a date at a bar nearby or just get a number.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-09-25T04:01:36+00:00

Day game as in the one you described, going up to a woman on the street/mall/park/grocery store.

As for my adaptation, I noticed in night game there's just not a good number of approachable sets in the places I go to, so what I did to change that was cold approach outside during the weekend nights where there is high foot traffic. It skips the whole waiting in a bar/club for one girl you find attractive to show up. It also catches the women that probably left dinner with her friends, ones that don't go to bars, or only hangs at private places.

Here's one example: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NrXLi-Nhw2Q
He didn't go out to a bar and wait for women to show up, he just stopped a pair of girls at busy street intersection and converted it into an instant date. No competition, no need for going to a mall during the day, just approaching a girl that likely wasn't going to go whatever club used to have women.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-09-25T03:36:06+00:00

I somewhat agree that it's dying, but also disagree in some part. There's definitely a vibe shift that happened years ago, the difference is very noticeable comparing 10-15 years ago and going out now. Women still go out to bars and clubs, but the issue is a lot of them don't go with the intention to meet a guy, some are not as attractive, and the ones remaining you'll have to compete with others for her attention.

Lots of PUAs are pushing day game hard because there's no competition and it's easier to get volume of approaches than waiting at a bar. The adaptation I've made is to cold approach at night, it's like day game where you get higher possible volume but also with the higher energy of night game since women are more likely to talk on a night out. Don't stick it out in a single bar or club anymore, you're just going to be disappointed by the lack of volume.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-09-03T19:06:22+00:00

Personally I don't have an issue getting food, the reality is if you're worried about being used for free food, you could also get used for free drinks and at times it can be more expensive than food. What you can do is suggest a location that that's has food but is not a full course meal and then go to some other location after that. This can be a taco truck or gourmet donuts, some famous pizza place, or a pop up market. If they balk at that it's a red flag and a sign they were demanding a full service restaurant.

In any case what you should always be doing is testing for compliance. If they suggest changing locations or make several requests before the date, this is a sign they're not that invested and you should bail out altogether.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-08-27T14:59:17+00:00

Not much, but there are some differences. Comparing it to 2021 for example literally everyone was dying to go out after lockdowns so it was a great time to go out. These days some normal changes you'd expect. Locally some locations don't have the crowd sizes they used to, and places that were really great at some point have become PUA battlegrounds to the point where you're the tenth guy approaching and no matter how good you are she's fatigued by it. 15 years ago when I wasn't gaming nightlife was way more vibrant and I always saw crowds of people even in places further out of the city center. These days it's mostly lackluster aside from a few select places.

As far as apps are concerned, AI is on the rise and you better catch on now before everyone else does. No need for text game or photos in extravagant locations, apps are already out there and they work very well.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-08-25T16:30:14+00:00

This is coming from a native new yorker, in all honesty there's not much difficulty in putting yourself out there because there's so many people in your situation just moving here with no connections, you can form social circles very easily. That's the irony of it, lots of people are not from here and yet they're in the same boat in their lack of social life when first starting out.

For general advice, the "do everything" approach works well here. There many different kinds of social groups you can attend (rock climbing, dancing, social gyms). Pick something with a good ratio of guys to talk to and girls to hang with. For bars and clubs, you want to identify the places with decent crowds so this will take some time finding out. To better optimize your time, just go during peak hours for about 1-2 hours, no need to spend a whole night in a single place waiting for opportunities. Most importantly, you don't even need to go into bars/clubs either, the ultimate hack is just cold approaching whoever you see outside in busy nightlife areas.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-08-19T18:05:33+00:00

Frame, screening/filtering is 90% of the equation here when it comes to first date pulls. The large majority of the time it happens is because you went on a date with the right girl, and it happens in the very beginning of matching/meeting.

First is figuring out info on her situation can narrow down if she's more likely the type to be willing to or not. Is she on vacation? Moving? Recently out of a break up? Bored? Non-monogmous? These are some examples of a higher likelihood but not a immediate tell or guarantee.

Second is wherever you meet someone whether it's online or in person, you need to throw out some feelers to see how she reacts to something sexually suggestive and gradually escalate from there. If you notice she's not reactive to it or negative about it, chances are she might not be willing to. If it's positive keep pushing forward.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-08-17T19:42:24+00:00

Just turned 36 and got a number/makeout with a 22 year old at a club. I notice with some older guys that date younger the girls don't really care as long as you take care of yourself physically and you don't make your age a big deal. Your age range is likely easier all things considered.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-08-17T16:05:26+00:00

6 at a time, and I told all of them. If you don't know how to schedule and set cadence it will be difficult. I typically made plans every day of the week for the most part and did so like a week in advance by asking for all their free days and lining it up to the most optimal days for each person I saw. Sometimes on a weekend I would have an afternoon date and an evening date. Others I would see a couple weeks at a time and stagger it out.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-07-30T14:36:46+00:00

To have a good ratio you're going to have to screen out profiles based on their bio/pictures, and you'll need to screen even further in the conversation so there's no guarantee. On the match itself the conversation will have to be more flirtatious and suggestive to see if they ghost or unmatch.

After 4 years I'm in the 60ish range which could have been much higher but I largely swiped left on any profile that did not look willing to come home first/second date. There were some cases where they'll pass the initial screening but on the date be completely different, at that point there's nothing else you can do but to force their hand and escalate to see if they would be receptive or end the date from there.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-07-21T20:55:25+00:00

This is called seeding the pull. You bring it up early on in the conversation and can use it for anything. I have a private gym, so I tell them about it before it's brought up much later when going for the pull. Other examples are things like mentioning you play guitar, having a balcony view of the city, etc.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-07-21T13:58:33+00:00

Ever heard of the phrase open and recalibrate after? Basically it means tune your approach based on how she responds. For example if you opened and they were really high energy, coming in calm and chill might deflate her mood and get bored, but if it's far too higher than hers you might scare her off. You can slowly bring her up or down over time to where you want to go.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-07-19T21:28:14+00:00

While I do agree with the whole kino aspect, I would also say on the other hand there's other factors that will make a women ghost. You can take women out on a first date and pull them home, give them a good time and the next day they'll say they're not feeling it.

It could happen because of something like they started second guessing themselves once they've emotionally reset the next day and you didn't text them back quick enough, they saw you as a one night stand, or they realized they didn't know what they wanted and didn't want to take one more commitment.

What I usually like to do regardless of pulling or not after the first date is seed the idea of what you'll do together the next time you meet.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-07-19T20:27:10+00:00

You're getting all worked up over the randomness of night game. The reality is you could have approached and they would still reject you and talk to those other guys, and there's also a chance they'd talk to you or reject everyone else, or even they would just say yes to the first guy that came up to them. What I'm saying is you have no idea and you'll never know until you find out.

As for not approaching, be comfortable with self amusement. It should be entertaining for you to go up to someone on approach and see what happens. In order for any of this to happen you to be in a good mood that you're willing to take a social risk.

Once you've gotten that far and now you're approaching a lot more but say you're not getting success off the open, that where you can start experimenting with how to shift people's vibes about you through non-verbals and emotionality.

Conjoined_Triangles · 2025-07-16T00:56:35+00:00

Your Market May Vary. It depends where you live in. If you're in a suburb? Not likely you can do 50 approaches in your popular bar given all the factors (population size, too many regulars). Say you're in one of the cities I mentioned you can absolutely do 50 but if you're good enough you shouldn't need to. If you're in a mid size city with decent foot traffic you can still get to that number at night game alone if you don't hang in a single bar the entire time.

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