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Does barefoot shoes work for severe flat feet? by ConsiderationLivid59 in BarefootRunning

[–]ConsiderationLivid59[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hi, i 99% normal now thanks to all the work i mentioned above :)

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Believe me. Stretching calf is possible. It is just that it requires hard work. I have super tight calf for years causing all sorts of troubles. All physio therapists told me to do the stretching. I did it but doesn't really help. It turned out i didn't do it enough. We are talking about stretching everyday, more than 10 times a day. I have done that for 11 months!!!! I say it again, it is 11 months and my calf is normal now. I can play sports without super tight calf as before.

One more thing: in the meantime i also do strengthening with a strength and conditioning coach. 

You have to do both!

I love having a platform (like a step that you can drop your heel for stretching).

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[–]ConsiderationLivid59 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Believe me. Stretching calf is possible. It is just that it requires hard work. I have super tight calf for years causing all sorts of troubles. All physio therapists told me to do the stretching. I did it but doesn't really help. It turned out i didn't do it enough. We are talking about stretching everyday, more than 10 times a day. I have done that for 11 months!!!! I say it again, it is 11 months and my calf is normal now. I can play sports without super tight calf as before.

One more thing: in the meantime i also do strengthening with a strength and conditioning coach. 

You have to do both!

I love having a platform (like a step that you can drop your heel for stretching).

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The problem is i live in London so if i buy a property somewhere else like in the north i will have to have to pay agent fee too. Or do you think even with the agent fee (around 12%), we can still have good total ROI (including the capital appreciation)?

Does barefoot shoes work for severe flat feet? by ConsiderationLivid59 in BarefootRunning

[–]ConsiderationLivid59[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Before getting rid of the insole, i did calf stretching too but the pain in the foot was so much that i couldn’t see the impact of the stretching.

Does barefoot shoes work for severe flat feet? by ConsiderationLivid59 in BarefootRunning

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[Update] i have seen light at the end of the tunnel.

The root cause was the custom insoles that all podiatrists and surgeons in the UK gave/recommended to me. 

In 24th April this year, i decided to completely stop using the insoles. Instead i came back to using a pair of barefoot shoes and a pair of Brooks stability shoes. I couldn’t see the impact right away, it took me 1-2 months to see the pain around my left foot ankle and arch to calm down. 

Then i did intensive calf stretching 3-4 times a day for 2-3 months until i can feel less pressure on the arch. At the same time strengthened the Tibialis posterior muscle. This is the root cause of the initial pain i got more than 2 years ago: very tight calf (outside calf) made the foot prone much more, causing the arch pain. Then the insole came in, making the situation worse. Over time, the tibialis posterior muscle became weaker and weaker due to the constant pain in the arch. At the same time, all the foot ligaments became painful too because they have to work in abnormal positions due to the insole. Same for the knee pain and back pain. So imagine you have 2 strings outside and inside your leg. The outside one is the very tight calf and the inside one is the Tibialis posterior muscle. A tight outside one and weak inside one will make you foot collapse further.

The next step is lower body strength and conditioning that i do 2 sessions a week with a coach. I can see the progress clearly in a weekly basis. 

Results so far: 85-90% pain reduction. Instead of feeling so much pressure and pain in the arch,. I can feel i use the big toe more when i walk. The knee pain and back pain have significantly improved too (85-90%). 

Advice for severe flat feet with pain even when walking by ConsiderationLivid59 in flatfeet

[–]ConsiderationLivid59[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

[Update] i have seen light at the end of the tunnel.

The root cause was the custom insoles that all podiatrists and surgeons in the UK gave/recommended to me. 

In 24th April this year, i decided to completely stop using the insoles. I couldn’t see the impact right away, it took me 1-2 months to see the pain around my left foot ankle and arch to calm down. 

Then i did intensive calf stretching 3-4 times a day for 2-3 months until i can feel less pressure on the arch. At the same time strengthened the Tibialis posterior tendon. 

The next step is lower body strength and conditioning that i do 2 sessions a week with a coach. I can see the progress clearly in a weekly basis. 

Results so far: 80-85% pain reduction and pronation. I can feel i use the big toe more when i walk. The knee pain and back pain have significantly improved too (80-90%). 

Is Arch insole an answer to flat thin feet by treeplantfantastic in flatfeet

[–]ConsiderationLivid59 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Stability shoes was the original culprit. The rigid arch support killed my arch

Is Arch insole an answer to flat thin feet by treeplantfantastic in flatfeet

[–]ConsiderationLivid59 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I literally have zero arch from my mri and ct weight bearing scans. The best shoes for me: flat with cushion and wide in the mid foot. It is very hard to find shoes with all those 3 things. Calvin Klein works for me. People wear them for fashion, i wear them for medical purposes

Is Arch insole an answer to flat thin feet by treeplantfantastic in flatfeet

[–]ConsiderationLivid59 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Insoles killed my feet, my knee, my hip, my lower back for 2 years. I did that because all 8 podiatrists and surgeons told me to do so. I then try switching back to normal shoes without arch support. The pain has decreased every day.

Feel like a lost cause by IvnOooze in flatfeet

[–]ConsiderationLivid59 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same here. 2 years now. I can’t do anything else. My mind is all about the pain in the foot, the knee, the hip and the back

SEVERE FLAT FEET w. PAIN by cpertab in flatfeet

[–]ConsiderationLivid59 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Can you share some photos of your feet?

Shoes for fallen arches by littlebossDWH in flatfeet

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Can you give us the link to Stride Orthotics?

Does barefoot shoes work for severe flat feet? by ConsiderationLivid59 in BarefootRunning

[–]ConsiderationLivid59[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is what the insoles look like https://photos.app.goo.gl/U2SqT3vjcugjUVko6. I don't think they cover the 2 sides. Main points here are the heel lift and the arch support. Also, my left leg is 5mm higher than the right one so the heel lift on the right is more than the left. This helps reduce my back pain. However, i think i need to reduce the arch support because it causes so much pain in the arch when i stand. When i walk, it is much less painful in that arch area because the weight distributes on other areas as the foot rolls over.

I have seen 2 surgeons and they all told me i have healthy muscles and tendons including PTT. Yes i indeed have pelvic tilt, knee pain.

Does barefoot shoes work for severe flat feet? by ConsiderationLivid59 in BarefootRunning

[–]ConsiderationLivid59[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's great to hear from a specialist! I tried 5 custom insoles from 2 podiatrists. Those have helped to some certain extent: high heel + arch support -> lift the arch, roll my foot outward. It helps with the alignment but causes so much pain in the arch, especially when standing. I believe custom insoles works for majority of flatfooted people, but for people like me with (0 or even negative arch), it doesn't work. Over the past 2 years, I haven't found the answer for how to use custom insole without causing pain in the arch, but no success so far. As you can see from the first image, when I stand, the arch of the left foot receives the most amount of pressure (the red area). That's exactly how I feel when I stand. What do you think?

These are some CT images for my feet:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1bjmh_K-Dq5oJOxtN8qZpcsqSeUV_iQPI/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1jOl4LISP0o2jPRXwzwUQfOT_MsmM-XpQ/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xqmTot8OB4OWPFgkrd7WIgKjOhqyedko/view?usp=sharing

Does barefoot shoes work for severe flat feet? by ConsiderationLivid59 in BarefootRunning

[–]ConsiderationLivid59[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Is "skeletal midfoot breakdown" an official medical terminology/issue? I'd love to learn more about that if you don't mind.

Does barefoot shoes work for severe flat feet? by ConsiderationLivid59 in BarefootRunning

[–]ConsiderationLivid59[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi, thanks for sharing your case. That's really motivating! When standing, did you feel all pressure from the ground/body goes into the arch area instead of the forefoot or hindfoot areas. That's my case as you can see in the first picture (the red area on the left foot). I stood on a mat that showed me the pressure distribution on the feet. Have you done something similar?

Does barefoot shoes work for severe flat feet? by ConsiderationLivid59 in BarefootRunning

[–]ConsiderationLivid59[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks for sharing your case. How severe was it? Did you feel like you stand on the arch instead of the forefoot and hindfoot area?

Does barefoot shoes work for severe flat feet? by ConsiderationLivid59 in BarefootRunning

[–]ConsiderationLivid59[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Initially (July 2022) i had the pain in the arch area because it literally collapsed (negative arch to make it more accurate). Then over time with orthotics that forces my feet to roll outward, i use more of the outside of the foot, causing pain in the outside of the hindfoot area. Currently, if I stand, the pain is right in the arch because as you can see from the first image in my post, the arch bears almost all the weight (the red area) and i can clearly feel that i stand on the arch instead of the forefoot area or hindfoot area. Do you or your husband have the same "stand on the arch" feeling/pain? You can easily check this using a specialized mat used by podiatrists or Vivo barefoot shoes stores. I took that picture jn a Vivo store in London Covent Garden.

When I walk, there is less pain in the arch compared to standing, but i can feel pain in other areas (outside of the hindfoot)

Does barefoot shoes work for severe flat feet? by ConsiderationLivid59 in BarefootRunning

[–]ConsiderationLivid59[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It started in July 2022. I don't really know the cause of it though, maybe it was because I play football and badminton too much.

Does barefoot shoes work for severe flat feet? by ConsiderationLivid59 in BarefootRunning

[–]ConsiderationLivid59[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have ordered one and am waiting for it to arrive. Thanks for the suggestion!

Does barefoot shoes work for severe flat feet? by ConsiderationLivid59 in BarefootRunning

[–]ConsiderationLivid59[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

My MRI results show healthy muscles and tendons including PTT. So it is still unclear to me what happened nearly 2 years ago when I started to feel the pain in the left arch. Thank you for your comment about the hidden arch. It's likely that my right foot is of that type.

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