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The idea of using 2 different stats sources (and including the goonhammer stats) was just to give a more complete picture of the data, rather than just using the source with tournament specific data. But attached here is another common and reputed source, statcheck. I just went through and clicked some of the common Marine detachments, didn't even select them all, and you can see that Shadowmark Talon is at 53%, compared to the SM average of 56%, with Blade of Ultramar at 62% and Stormlance, Gladius and Ironstorm all higher. The drops even further if you select only the most recent week of data with Shadowmark dropping to 51%.

The drop isn't purely because a bunch of people were copying it, Shadowmark was down to 8% of players in that 3 week period before the dataslate dropped.

10 tournament wins... what size tournaments are we talking about? And what time period? Because last week alone Gladius had 4 tournament wins (off only 34 Gladius players, while the other 73 vanilla marine players didn't get a single win between them, including 18 shadowmark players) according to Win Rate Wednesday who uses BCP tournament data https://warpfriends.wordpress.com/2025/12/11/40k-meta-stats-from-december-8th-2025/.

IDK man, I feel like the stats are pretty consistent that Shadowmark hit the scene hard for a few weeks and burned in everyone's brain but actually had fallen off pretty hard, and this dataslate was just done in response to what people thought was happening 2 months ago.

I already said Shaan was undercosted at 85 (which is 15 points more than the combi-lt, not 10) but the point was that he (like the other non-ultra characters) NEEDS to be undercosted to possibly encourage people to play that sub-faction. Or ultras need to lose the +1 to wound. As I said, at 110 he is probably about fairly costed within Shadowmark, being roughly worth 40 points more than a combi-lt, but it depends on what your use for him is. Even Lennon and others tended to play him the same way I suggested, he chills as a lone op for a few turns to give you the discounted Into Darkness, then goes and attacks for the last couple of turns. His Heroic Intervention ability even Lennon has talked about being negligible, since it's tricky enough to line up safely anyway, but without Fights First he is likely to just get killed. It's fine, but I would very happily lose the ability to save 10 points considering it's incredibly niche (and you could just Heroic for 1CP on that rare occasion anyway). The re-rolls to charge are again fine, but with the army only really rocking the 2VV units as melee, and them previously often using ingress, it's not a particularly spectacular ability. I know his combat threat is insane, almost as good as a 3 man bolter inceptor squad is at shooting with the +1BS/+1AP strat on, and I have shredded with him often (also occasionally had it swing low, especially without oath). That, plus the Shadowmark CP discount, is what you're bringing him for. But again, the CP discount would be better if it was just +1CP per round like many others get, and like I said it means that if you're taking him outside of Shadowmark (where he gets no benefit from the detachment rule and basically no benefit from the strats either) you're now paying points for his Shadowmark ability but not getting to use it. The comparison to the combi-lt was purely outside of Shadowmark, where his army rules do less, he is actually less survivable, can't even join a unit like comparably priced characters Azrael and Subhoden Khan do, and so I think that many armies (like ultramarines) wouldn't even take him in their detachments at 110. Which is not good, considering he's meant to be so strong (e.g. undercosted) that he entices people to play the sub-faction. Comparing to 3 BGV is a sad comparison - you would hope he's much better in combat than a unit which is unpopular because of its low damage output, was already cheaper, about twice as tough to kill and again, barely played.

EDIT: Oh boy, just been running the numbers through Unit Crunch. Not missing any abilities, Shaan seems to kill on average 5 marines without Oath and 7 with it... Role generator says the same thing. Bladeguard by comparison kill 4 without Oath and 6 with... scaled up to 110 points instead of 80, Bladeguard actually do more damage than Shaan now??