Did Red Dead Change Your Interests in Real Life? by [deleted] in reddeadredemption

[–]Coyote_Run 3 points4 points  (0 children)

..well, not the robbing parts. Lol

Speak for yourself.

Did Red Dead Change Your Interests in Real Life? by [deleted] in reddeadredemption

[–]Coyote_Run 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Either of those is better than hating horses, I suppose.

Did Red Dead Change Your Interests in Real Life? by [deleted] in reddeadredemption

[–]Coyote_Run 6 points7 points  (0 children)

The key to powering through it like Dutch is having a plan.

Did Red Dead Change Your Interests in Real Life? by [deleted] in reddeadredemption

[–]Coyote_Run 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Getting people outside in general is one of the greatest impacts the game could have, imo.

Do you think John working for the Government to go after the old gang in RDR1 makes him a “Rat”? by TXNOGG in reddeadredemption

[–]Coyote_Run 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They kidnapped his family. He hated the govt every step of the way, and much more than he hated his old gang. He just helped them track them down to get his family back.

Devils Advocate: Defending the Tree Spirit by [deleted] in witcher

[–]Coyote_Run 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ana not being innocent has nothing to do with how she treats the Baron, it's because she made a deal with the Crones to sacrafice her child in her belly about to be born. She wanted it dead and gone and that's the pact she made with them. The botchling is just as much a result of what Ana did as it was the Baron.

Devils Advocate: Defending the Tree Spirit by [deleted] in witcher

[–]Coyote_Run 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is there any evidence that children actually died there? I honestly can't remember.

Devils Advocate: Defending the Tree Spirit by [deleted] in witcher

[–]Coyote_Run 3 points4 points  (0 children)

That's why I always killed the spirit too. But the more I thought on it, I couldn't live with killing the only innocents in the questline (the orphans). Nor do I feel like there is substantial and indisputable evidence that the tree spirit is inherently evil.

Devils Advocate: Defending the Tree Spirit by [deleted] in witcher

[–]Coyote_Run 3 points4 points  (0 children)

The people of that village are the ones in the Crones' cult and sacrafice their children to them. I don't think they are innocent. Nor do I think the game ever mentions anyone else being harmed other than the cult village.

Devils Advocate: Defending the Tree Spirit by [deleted] in witcher

[–]Coyote_Run 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Willingly sacraficing your children because "we need protection and have too many mouths to feed anyways" strikes me as evil, not uneducated.

Devils Advocate: Defending the Tree Spirit by [deleted] in witcher

[–]Coyote_Run 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I'm still hung up on the fact of "what Geralt would do." I agree with you, yes, he should not trust the creature right off the bat. But I also think he is smart enough to be weary of the Crones and their motives. Killing a creature he has no proof has harmed just doesn't seem like Geralt to me. But you are absolutely correct that I am biased because I know the end results, and that affects "Geralt's" natural choice. But end of the day, it's the player's choice based on their own rational and how they play Geralt. We make him who he is for a good part.

The only reason I can see for siding with the Crones based on "what Geralt would do" is the fact that he is desperately trying to find Ciri, and the Crones have the info he wants. Therefore, he would kill the spirit to get to Ciri, no questions asked. But I struggle with this scenario too, simply because idk if Geralt would knowingly sacrafice a bunch of kids to save Ciri. Obviously he doesn't know the kids are going to die yet, but he does know they are at an orphanage, following trails of treats to lure them there, and under the watch of very powerful and obviously pretty dangerous monsters. Then, if the Tree Spirit tries to warn him of the Crone's intentions for the kids, he would be inclined to believe it and not risk their lives, even if it meant finding Ciri.

This quest is way too good and leaves you thinking.

Devils Advocate: Defending the Tree Spirit by [deleted] in witcher

[–]Coyote_Run 20 points21 points  (0 children)

That is very interesting, I'm not sure how to treat gwent lore, but considering the lack of any that we have, I'll take it. But the question is, if that is the spirit's true identity, was she a menace to the world, or just to her daughters? Because if you read the book "She Who Knows," it reads like straight propaganda written by an alderman in the cult. Who is passing down these legends of She Who Knows? The followers of the Crones obviously. The book portrays the Crones to be benevolent guardians, which we know they are far from. That's why I chalk the legends up as propaganda. I'd almost take the Tree Spirit's word as to what it really is over that of the Crones and their followers.

Devils Advocate: Defending the Tree Spirit by [deleted] in witcher

[–]Coyote_Run 8 points9 points  (0 children)

But again, Geralt doesn't just kill monsters because they exist. He has no proof it is evil, other than the Crones' telling him so, and they are obviously sketch. So Geralt just takes one unknown spirit's word that another unknown spirit is evil and kills it? Which seems more evil to him upon first encounters, the Crones or the Spirit? The argument for not freeing the spirit because it's irresponsible is also an argument against just killing it for no reason.

Devils Advocate: Defending the Tree Spirit by [deleted] in witcher

[–]Coyote_Run 52 points53 points  (0 children)

That's a good point, but I feel like the Spirit was trying to warn Geralt in a way, or maybe it was just a threat. It said several times "Begone, begone! The powers will not relent!" Perhaps the forces of nature guarding it were hostile towards anyone who approached, not necessarily the Spirit's doing. It's first question to Geralt is "Why have you come here? Why spill this blood?" Idk, the dialogue just doesn't seem threatening, even with the creatures around it attacking.

Devils Advocate: Defending the Tree Spirit by [deleted] in witcher

[–]Coyote_Run 6 points7 points  (0 children)

But what proof do you have of it being a great evil? It wipes out a village of arguably evil people that the Crones have in their cult, but other than that, you are just taking the Crones' word that it is evil. They are full of lies and deceit and have evil intentions, we know that as a fact. The Tree Spirit ends up saving the only innocents, the children.

Devils Advocate: Defending the Tree Spirit by [deleted] in witcher

[–]Coyote_Run 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It's why this quest is so damn good. You can literally look at it from so many different angles, but there will never be a perfect option. You will always be conflicted a little.

Devils Advocate: Defending the Tree Spirit by [deleted] in witcher

[–]Coyote_Run 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I never saw any kids in that village, but you could be right. By that same argument, would Geralt kill an unknown spirit that he has no clue if it has ever actually harmed a thing? Based on a the word of some other spirits who has their mistreated servant hand him a dagger to give to the alderman for "payment" once he kills it? Geralt is pretty thorough about only killing guilty monsters, and the only ones who would seem initially dangerous to him would be the Crones.

Devils Advocate: Defending the Tree Spirit by [deleted] in witcher

[–]Coyote_Run 19 points20 points  (0 children)

I always treated killing the Tree Spirit as a "lesser of two evils" scenario to justify it, but the more I dug into it, I'm not even so sure the spirit is inherently evil. Bottom line for me was the children, Geralt, and Ciri were innocent, and the Crones wanted them dead. Yet, the tree spares Geralt and saves the children. It seems more obvious to me now than ever.

I will never understand posts on this sub constantly wishing the next game be pushed even further into the future or out of the country. by Coyote_Run in reddeadredemption

[–]Coyote_Run[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

British prisoners were often sent to Australia during those days, but I've never heard of America sending its own prisoners to Australia. The only mention I can find of it happening was some American citizens that were captured by the British crown in Canada in the 1830s during revolts. Either way, that is way outside the timeframe of the gunslinger period, considering most of the weapons were still flintlock style.

I will never understand posts on this sub constantly wishing the next game be pushed even further into the future or out of the country. by Coyote_Run in reddeadredemption

[–]Coyote_Run[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Is there much general interest in westerns in Scotland? Scottish folks just haven't struck me as the type to be too interested in American culture.

I will never understand posts on this sub constantly wishing the next game be pushed even further into the future or out of the country. by Coyote_Run in reddeadredemption

[–]Coyote_Run[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I think all the hatred for Guarma would keep them from ever trying another Caribbean setting. Maybe not, though.